Sad to say that I am begining to feel no systems or methods will beat roulette. . .
I had once believed that roulette can be beaten or predictable. . . but i think its jus empty hope or believes. . .
So what if u got a system that let u win in one session? maybe u will win in 1 session, 2 session even 3 session. . . but can u be sure that it will bring u profits in as many session as u play? when i say profits, i mean u r still in positive from e 1st day u seriously use a system or method to play roulette. . .
Even say u have a solid method or system. . . luck will still play a part. . . eg. if u r gg to a casino with a method or system in mind, if u are lucky, u start e game with a winning streak, but what if u are unlucky? u start with a losing streak.
Any living proof in this forum to show me that i am wrong? (hope there are. . . )
I still hope someone can prove me wrong. . .
Hello Graywolf and all friends,
very clear words here. . . YES, You are right in a common sense !!
B U T : What ever was told You, what ever You have experienced: N E V E R G I V E U P !!!
In a very special way we can use Roulette for making money,
according to our personal situation, personal needs and possibilities !!
HERE is the way, the essential advice:
The only REAL and really helpful list to succeed with Roulette:
1. There is no strategy to beat roulette in every session. . . We have to accept this fact !!!
2. ANYWAY: There are some (a few) strategies out there, which can help you to have
more winning sessions than losing sessions (session = Your daily betting visit in a b&m casino)
THIS can only be accomplished in the long run, when You:
3. Limit Your betting time in the casino. 30 minutes on one table should be enough !
otherwise random fluctuations can and will beat every strategy (on this day) . . .
4. Limit Your profit goal ( 10-20 % for each daily session would be VERY reasonable )
5. Limit Your losses. Have a Stop Loss Goal ( 20 % of Your betting wallet per day would be good )
6. Have a sufficient bankroll with You. Related to Your chosen strategies this should be 2 - 10k.
>>> If you do not have that, don`t go to a casino at all !!!
So the H O L Y G R A I L is:
a. Don`t be greedy !!!!!
b. Become really matured !!!!!
c. Control your character/personality, then you can control roulette !!!!!
IN THAT WAY and in only that way You can have more winning than looosing sessions
on a weekly/monthly average, for example on every 3-4 winning sessions 1 losing session.
>> If you do NOT stick to these points above, you are doomed :skull: to fail.
>> If you really DO stick :rtfm: to these points above:
>> IN THAT WAY Roulette can be beaten ( not in every session ), but in the long run . . .
Sincerely Yours
ROLF :thumbsup:
Quote from: BlackPearl on April 27, 2010, 02:42:10 PM
Hello Graywolf,
very clear words here. . .
YES, You are right in a common sense !!
Here is a REAL helpful list to succeed:
1. There is no strategy to beat roulette in every session. . . We have to accept this fact !!!
2. ANYWAY: There are some (a few) strategies out there, which can help you to have
more winning sessions than losing sessions (session = Your daily betting visit in a b & m casino)
THIS can only be accomplished in the long run, when You:
3. Limit Your betting time in the casino ( 30 minutes on one table should be enough!)
. . . otherwise random fluctuations can and will beat every strategy . . .
4. Limit Your profit goal ( 10-20 % for each daily session would be VERY reasonable )
5. Limit Your losses. Have a Stop Loss Goal ( 20 % of Your betting wallet per day would be good )
6. Have a sufficient bankroll with You. Related to Your chosen strategies this should be 2 - 10k.
If you do not have that, don`t go to a casino at all !!!
IN THAT WAY and in only that way You can have more winning than looosing sessions
on a monthly average, for example on every 3-4 winning sessions 1 losing session.
>> If you do NOT stick to these 7 points above, you are doomed to fail.
If you DO stick to these 7 points above:
>> IN THAT WAY Roulette can be beaten ( not in every session ), but in the long run . . .
Sincerely Yours
ROLF
Most excellent advice.
Thank you.
Quote from: BlackPearl on April 27, 2010, 02:42:10 PM
There are some (a few) strategies out there, which can help you to have
more winning sessions than losing sessions
Just show us one of them.
Quote from: BlackPearl on April 27, 2010, 02:42:10 PM
B U T : What ever was told You, what ever You have experienced: N E V E R G I V E U P !!!
Don't listen to this. You could actually spend your whole life chasing an illusion. I mean it.
Sometimes it's good to give up and look in other directions. :thumbsup:
Hello Noble . . .
Yes, You are right, because not everyone is capable of everything!
And also not everyone is able to manage and handle Roulette in the right way!
Too much emotions and greed involved in most cases. . .
Someone MUST learn to loose first. . . before someone can manage it to win. . .
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Back to the other point from Your posting before:
Will be back here in 1 or 2 hours. . .
Must go a bit shopping, before closing hour here in middle europe
Then I will make some comments on Your request.
You will enjoy. . .
It is a pleasure to meet you again later!
Sincerely,
ROLF
To quit or not to quit; that is the question. Whether 'tis nobler to suffer the slings and arrows of failure or snuggle beneath the quilt of safety.
Spin, spin, Evil Wheel!
Sam
Hello TwoCatSam,
I love your philosophical words in regard of our theme here
. . . simply brillant
> maybe there is more 2 discuss later. . .
will enjoy it VERY much 2 find you here for conversation on such a high level !!!
Sincerely,
ROLF
Hello Noble . . . and all good people here!
With ROULETTE it is the same as with other ranges in our complicated life:
To cope with it or handle it in the best possible way, YOU HAVE TO FIRST:
STEP OUTSIDE THE BOX !!!
. . .
Ok. . . now we can go on. . .
To beat Roulette in the weekly or monthly average ( not in every daily session),
we must step away from the common thinking of players, gamblers etc. . . .
Here we go :
1) We must first Switch Off OR REDUCE the risks of roulette betting to the extend possible!
2) Risks are:
a. Zero,
b. losing money on numbers where the ball not landed
c. Fields (betting chances) of the tableau or bowl, which appearing in a row
d. Fields (betting chances) of the tableau or bowl, which are sleeping in a row
NOW we come to the point:
A. We MUST bet on ALL numbers and areas of the Wheel (or tableau) at the same time!!!
A. 1. This MUST be done with easy to handle strategies like betting on all DZ or CL at the same time
in connection with:
B. a nature based progression or a special flat bet (which is almost impossible to manage according to time problems. . . ).
C. We MUST swith off the ZERO risk by placing always an adequate chip/jeton size on ZERO!!!
IF Your chosen strategy cannot bear this small amount needed here, it is NOT THE RIGHT STRATEGY!!!
From this we can go on with really studying Roulette indepth.
To do this, someone must not be a player, programmer or whatever.
. . . . . .
Someone must become very S I L E N T in mind
. . .
T H I N K
. . .
A N A L Y S E
. . .
T R Y
. . .
. . . . . .
Find you on the other side
Sincerely,
ROLF
So to sum up:
- Cover the whole board.
- Use a "nature based progression".
What's a "nature based progression"? Fibonacci?
nolinks://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibonacci_number#Fibonacci_numbers_in_nature (nolinks://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibonacci_number#Fibonacci_numbers_in_nature)
I concur. Do you have anything apart from the usual tired clichés?
And there is no such thing as a "mathematically proven" progression.
Rolf I think I know you. I think I spoke to a German guy named Rolf in the chatroom about a year ago. You said you were working on some sort of strategy, can't remember well.
Anyway, here's something I don't understand:
How can you cover the whole board and use a progression at the same time? If for example you cover all dozens with 1 chip, then add 1 chip to one of the dozens, then it becomes the same as putting 1 chip on that dozen and no chips on the others.
"Limit Your betting time in the casino. 30 minutes on one table should be enough !
otherwise random fluctuations can and will beat every strategy"
Brilliant!!!!!
I always wanted to pop out on my lunch break and make a killing. :sarcastic:
Hello Dear Ones,
firstofall I am sorry for my bad "English" . . . .
Please try to uinderstand the meaning of my words -- THANK YOU for Your patience!!
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Hello Jordan,
sorry, I am Not selling anything
If I know something about Roulette:
Please ask some profs and older ones here about my statements. . .
You still think in boxes. . .
Step out to the highways of an open mind. . .
. . . be free
Your Friend
ROLF
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Hello, Dear Noble,
1) YES, You are right with the Fibonacci line . . .
It is found EVERYWHERE in the nature and it is also called the "Golden Cut" etc. . .
Nature NEVER makes mistakes . . . only men does !!! Thank you for the helpful Wiki - Link !!
2)
a. Bet on ALL Dozens or Columns with a Fibonacci based progression.
b. Place Your bets separately on every DZ or CL.
c. When win, decrease Your bet, when loose, increase it according to the FIB-Numbers
d. Always cover ZERO with adequate jeton size
Exersise, exersize exerSIZE . . .
Dont argue with people, who can not or want not to understand . . . . . . or start thinking . . .
Find you later
ps. : You are right with this old chat contact. . .
Have a nice and thrilling evening over there !
Sincerely Yours
ROLF
Hello Bayes,
Thanks a lot for Your comment. . .
You are right!!!
I have erased that point from my comment.
Have a nice day
ROLF
Hi BlackPearl,
I have to disagree with most of your advice. If you understood the concept of Personal Permanence you'll understand that:"Limit Your betting time in the casino" "Limit your losses" etc. have no meaning, and make no difference in the long run. They are purely psychological illusions. Every session is interconnected with the previous and the next session. Leaving the casino and coming back another day does not make any difference. Mathematically all your short sessions together are equal to one long session.
Even if stop loss had any meaning (which has not), this is unreasonable: "Limit Your losses. Have a Stop Loss Goal ( 20 % of Your betting wallet per day would be good )" Why take all this bank roll with you in the first place if you plan to lose only 20% of it? Bring with you the money that is equal to your stop loss and lose it 100%.
Anyway...
Everything is connected with everything. . .
The Elements are connected with the spirit and the spirit with elements. . .
Mind, thoughts and spirit of men are connected with his emotions,words and deeds. . .
The Settings in the mind of an artist are influencing his skills. . .
His thoughts are producing his emotions and influenzing his condition. . .
All this is connected with the quality of his daily performance. . .
It doesn`t matter, where ore when the artist is practizing his arts or his skills. . .
It doesn`t matter, who the artist is or what kind of art he is practizing. . .
It can be in circuit, in a workshop or in a casino. . .
Everything is the same. . .
There is nothing new under the sun. . .
Everything is connected with everything else. . .
Find the source. . . and everything is clear
Everything is a product of something or someone
Everything above all is a product of GOD`s spirit
Everything below of this is a product of men`s spirit
Men`s spirit can understand men`s things
GOD`s spirit can understand all things
Find the source of the spirit
Find the source of all things
Then You are free
Roulette. . . is only a game
nolinks://nolinks.youtube.com/watch?v=gaDyqkwnxUw
nolinks://nolinks.youtube.com/watch?v=N9TV6UbL170
all your short sessions together are equal to one long session.>>>
I disagree. Because the casino is always in the long term, so are you when you play there. The terms short and long term don't mean much. All there really is, is the next spin.
There is no need to be unsettled, Great Master. . . :aikido:
. . .
You will always have the last word...
Quote from: BlackPearl on April 29, 2010, 12:24:35 AM
You will always have the last word...
hahaha :thumbsup:
you have reached the right conclusion. roulette is a unbeatable game. i take a couple of hundred dollars to the casino every so often in the hope i will have a run of luck and turn it into a small fortune. if it was a horse race with 37 runners would you have a bet.
year probably pins but im a sucker for the horses. lol
Hi,
Appreciate your search,we all have researched,tested.
Traders get 3 from 10 right and still make profit.
The most exciting opportunity is right here.
I walk in ,walk out,take THEIR CASH.
I play live,wait for last 2doz to miss TWICE,then attack the next spin only.
I monitor 10 tables,many opportunities,but only play ONE table at a time,
and stay at that table. Just 2 days ago someone tried to collect
my win,so watch,collect,look for next opportunity.
So relax,,enjoy the power you have and enjoy.
Clean up. . . . . r5 :) :)
Quote from: pins on April 29, 2010, 05:53:08 AM
...if it was a horse race with 37 runners would you have a bet.
Oh my Lordy wordy , YES!
Hey BP, we are getting very curious about your posting. Could you throw a few more explanations about what you have in mind?
Best wishes,
CashGrowth.
Hello CashGrowth,
Thanks for Your Request...
I am an analyst and I view Roulette from a different viewpoint
than gamblers, players etc. ...
Atm I am trying to get a feeling about the spirit of this forum...
THIS is the reason for my way of asking or presenting things here.
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Btw, together with one of my business partners ( a diploma programmer )
we HAVE analyzed Roulette, the bowl, the Tableau and all the betting chances...
THEN we have developed a complex program, which is based on mathematically
correct steps and logical strategies. I have tested it for hundreds of hours...
This program wins in 9 of 10 bettings and so every daily session is a winning session.
We are still working on it to make it more practicable for several selected
Online Live Casinos like DB, bet365 a.s.o. to use it in the long run etc. ...
=======================================================
Beside of this I am always searching for a real chance to make daily Casino sessions
to winning sessions, by using a combination of betting chances, time & money
management, enough bankroll etc....
Here we are ready for a breakthrough in the next weeks and months as well...
Btw... I am not interested in selling something or in discussing some other kind of nonsens here !!
I will NOT answer or react to any of whatever kind of neurotic posting in my threads at all!!!
. . .
Really looking forward to good, reasonable and fruitful discussions !!!!!!!!!!
Best Wishes
ROLF :thumbsup:
The lonely poor lunatic a.k.a. Charles E. Hampshire now has so many accounts here that I can't remember all the nicknames.
Who is that, please ?
Can we learn something from that person ?
PLEASE contribute something reasonable here :rtfm: -- THX a lot !
ROLF :good:
Mistarlupo,
I spoke to Rolf a couple of times about a year ago in chat. He's a nice German guy. I don't think he's Charles. :)
@Rolf: What is your program based on? What do you think gives it the edge over the house? (which is mathematically impossible)
Noble Savage,
Please don't take this the wrong way but.......
You can sit in front of your P.C. for the next 10 years and type in every day them immortal words "mathematically impossible" yet someone is going to go into the casino every other day for the next 10 years and win at the game of roulette. That guy does not have to surrender his winnings to the casino because according to a majority of people "it is mathematically impossible". That guy does not have to proof to anybody that he has a way of playing that circumnavigates the house edge. In fact he would be pretty damn foolish to do so. He will be perfectly content just doing his stuff, just like you will be content typing in it's mathematically impossible. Now, everyone's happy.
He is happy and you are happy. Perfect.
W O W . . . I am nearly speechless !!!
THX for Your help and support here...
============================
Will propose in some minutes a riddle :scratch_ones_head: for the elite here . . .
HAVE°FUN with it !!!
ROLF
Here is the RIDDLE. . .
Enjoy the journey to the edge of . . . . . . Roulette ?
nolinks://nolinks.youtube.com/watch?v=lSwljC8EQeE
nolinks://nolinks.youtube.com/watch?v=pPKQcYlD7aA&feature=related
sorry, dear Sir
cannot understand that kind of english language
please kindly explain your message in other (friendly) words. . .
Thank You :dance1:
anyone ever tryed just playing with a small bankroll like 50units and only stopping when you hit lets say 1000units..
I have done this 2 times....once in a bookmakers roulette machine £5 to £140....once online at betfred £10 too £120
the way I got this high with a small bankroll is NO SYSTEM just smart betting with you bankroll, basickly youll just catch on to things and go with the flow if you have any experience you can see something to exploit even if it fails...you made sure you didn't risk you whole bankroll...
one example from the endless of ideas.....-sometimes when I see 1,6,22,17,6...(34 comes to mind as 17,6 where out last 2 spins...looking at the marque and 3rd colum hasn't hit in 9 spins lets say...and even repeated last time it was out....will bring you too a decition (GUESS) that 34 would be a nice single number bet for the next spin or for a thew spins....I believe this is the only way of having a real HOLY GRAIL
mattjono
greed has always been my downfall...and playing the opposite to the trends betting big progression on something I thinks I due....the first time I lost my wages I lost it on R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B that type of bet is/was my downfall and because its R.N.G didn't help...
mattjono
Quote from: sherminator on May 05, 2010, 08:23:23 PM
Noble Savage,
Please don't take this the wrong way but.......
You can sit in front of your P.C. for the next 10 years and type in every day them immortal words "mathematically impossible" yet someone is going to go into the casino every other day for the next 10 years and win at the game of roulette. That guy does not have to surrender his winnings to the casino because according to a majority of people "it is mathematically impossible". That guy does not have to proof to anybody that he has a way of playing that circumnavigates the house edge. In fact he would be pretty damn foolish to do so. He will be perfectly content just doing his stuff, just like you will be content typing in it's mathematically impossible. Now, everyone's happy.
He is happy and you are happy. Perfect.
Sherminator,
I didn't say that it's impossible to beat the game, I just asked "how does your program beat the (theoretically unbeatable) house edge"? Just want to get a feel of what it's based on.
As an AP, "theoretically" I shouldn't be able to win either, because the "theoretical" roulette wheel is perfect. ;)
Quote from: Stackbundles on May 05, 2010, 08:51:17 PM
LOL MATHAMATICALY IMPOSSIBLE BET HE CUMS OVER THIS WORD
Stackbundlesinyourdreams,
You are one of the most uncivil posters I've seen in these forums. You just HAVE to pollute every thread with that language and demeanor of yours.
You're lucky there is no real moderation here. ::)
Quote from: BlackPearl on May 05, 2010, 08:42:27 PM
Here is the RIDDLE. . .
Enjoy the journey to the edge of . . . . . . Roulette ?
nolinks://nolinks.youtube.com/watch?v=lSwljC8EQeE
nolinks://nolinks.youtube.com/watch?v=pPKQcYlD7aA&feature=related
Rolf,
Thanks.
Still looking forward to knowing the basis of your method.
Let's start with: does it target the random game, or the physical device?
Jordan 27
No hidden clues,just a method of play.
Go to your casino,do not play,just log the method.
When YOU know the results,then play.
Enjoy.
r5.
I think the key is virtual play, the method I have been testing has never lost more then six straight lost spins LLLLLLs, yes it may go more but not as of yet.
So it makes sense that a period of virtual losses will PROTECT the bank roll.
So here is the magic WORD patience to wait for 4 LLLLs then start the battle.
Makes sense to me.
Stuart
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Have a good, happy and healthy sunday ALL!!!
Sincerely Yours :give_heart:
ROLF :thumbsup:
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Sincerely,
ROLF :thumbsup:
You're only wasting your time if you're trying to get rich quick and not enjoying yourself. The strategy I've been using for the past 2-3 years, since I found all these fine and wonderful helpful people here, has been the same. Overall I've done decent but not great. I would bet on the first and second dz. If I won I would bet on the second and third dz. If I win again I would bet on the first and second columns then the second and third, sort of like making my way around the table on dozens and columns. If I lost I would up the bet by 2 units and lower it by 1 until I was back to my original bet. I set a stopping point on the amount bet on the dz/clm. Say if I start with 1 unit and lost I would bet 3 units back down to 2 then 1 provided I won. If not it would go something like 1-3-5-7-9. My stopping point would be anywhere from 13 to 15 units. But I have got burnt too. Once I played for 8 spins and lost on every spin. I knew it was time to quit until the next time. You would be surprised how long you stay in the game playing like that. I go in with the mindset that I will lose but the question I ask is; How long can I play til I lose? I have walked away with anywhere from $10 to $120 bucks extra in my pocket. Hope this helps I like playing like that.
I wonder about these threads and if people will see my post if it is too old.
But. I have two thoughts.
1) I believe that there is a method for following and managing the short
term trends in what happens in a random game.
2) And this is philosophical and a little stupid but.
If the odds of any casino game are small in favor of the house then how is it so
probable that people will lose HUNDREDS of times that house edge?
And hardly ever win that much?
Personally I think the pocket needs to be turned inside out. On even props if
you bet the exact opposite of your loss you would have won.
SO what is wrong with the thought process of the masses?
For me, I have occasionally played a "reverse martingale" at a craps table.
Boy does that make them nervous!!!!!
THEY are playing the (stupid) martingale method. YOu are making them play it
by letting your bets ride. (They are doubling up on THEIR losses)
Think about it.
@Rolf
Where are you from ?!?
Im from Heidelberg !!!
Gruese
Raymond
yes you are,read first page and jumped to bottom page 3.
All you read is single dozen bet, double dozen bet, redblack all outside bets, forget this look to the mat, just watch as those 37 numbers on european or 38 on yank mat disappear. Learn when 10 th number goes see what avg the 11 number takes to go and the same for the rest of the mumbers. The more sessions you record the avg will appear. Be fore you shoot it down, do some recording yourselves then tell me you cant win, cheers
Nottophammer
P.S. once you get your avg then work out your stakes. if ten numbers disappear, the 11 number on avg on rgn ( global draw is 7 to date, so you'd need to wait for atleast 4 losers then you've got 3 chances 27 at .20p = 5.40if lose .80p = 21.6, last chance in betting shop £3.00 * 27 = 81, if in you've got your stake back. remember rgn seen it take seven to come in, record the live wheel on sky and the avg there is pretty much the same, so rgn or wheel work out the avg.
hi, I it is long time I haven't posted on these forums but it looks like everyone is still stuck at the same place.
A few things to consider now:
1st-placing an equal unit on 0 every time does not affect house edge (like someone suggested that it would eliminate some risk).. because in a cycle or over a large sample you will spend the same amount of money placing it on zero that you would lose when it hits. If you are aiming sector and 0 is in it, you absolutely bet it, but on some EC bets, don't even think too much about zero because it is the same if you bet it or not.
2nd- a few short runs become a long run... there is no thing like beating roulette short run every time...
3rd- If you don't have physical edge over roulette(VB or bias), you can't have a mathematical system that will erase house edge, therefore don't even bother with progressions because it realy doesnt help you.. basicly it just forces you to bring more money in casino that you should.
4th- roulette does create a lot of sick patterns that you actualy can exploit (which situational betting is all about) but not by betting against them.
5th- there is also a thing called luck. and you have to work with it, that is why you shoudnt play if you are missing every spin and try to get some profit when you are running good.
6th- do your homework
7th- I dont know why is everyone thinking outside of the box will help. think inside of the box just done make up some stupid magical stuff up that some numbers should follow others... roulette is obvious, it is a spinning rotor with a track for ball which will fall into some slots.. And to eliminate house edge you must predict where the ball will land, the numbers are just there to name the slots so you can cover them.
8th- there is no foolproof system
I dont want to be rude or anything but if you are all going to be so naive and look for someone to flash infront of you with a holy grail system, you realy are wasting your time and potentialy your money.
cheers
Mogul397 quote, For me, I have occasionally played a "reverse martingale" at a craps table.
Boy does that make them nervous!!!!!
THEY are playing the (stupid) martingale method. YOu are making them play it
by letting your bets ride. (They are doubling up on THEIR losses), nottophammer says like it.
Think about it.
BooRays,
8th- there is no foolproof system
I dont want to be rude or anything but if you are all going to be so naive and look for someone to flash infront of you with a holy grail system, you realy are wasting your time and potentialy your money.
Boo, like your reply 1st to or should it be too (ask ausguy ) as i'm not up on grammer and all that, 8th.
agree the holy grail what the f--k is that all about, a square of numbers that all line up to a certain amount straight, diagonial what ever, how is that going to help come up with the winning number(or predict the winning number).
Is it third person, aus, Nottophammers asked what do we know before,good reply came from seagull,REPEATS, any thoughts on repeats.
Big apologies Ausguy if i've upset you some time in 2013, also the dig above, nothing ment by it, just my stupid sense of humour, hope i've got my grammer and spelling right,LOL
hammer - It's just a matter of using the grammar/spell check tools either right here next to preview or a free on line dictionary. Spell check doesn't ID grammatical errors.
A couple of years ago I wondered why so many posters (particularly from the USA wrote "TO" instead of "TOO" for correct context meaning ?).
So back then I went on line & selected an American USA dictionary. Surprise surprise they TOO use TO & TOO in exactly the same way as English dictionaries do. So in turn you would expect schools on both sides of the Atlantic ( Pacific or Indian for us Aussies) to "officially" teach the correct meanings of TO and TOO. In a nutshell if you got it wrong in an exam then a big "X" for fail would be placed by the teacher next to that question.
A little demo, opps! Demonstration. Tom, Dick and Harry arranged TO all meet at their local casino. Harry was running a little late, so Tom and Dick went TO the bar for a drink or TWO as they waited for Harry.
At the bar Tom suddenly noticed that he and Dick were wearing identical patterned shirts. Tom exclaimed, pointing to dicks shirt, "what you TOO" and much laughter.
A few drinks later Harry arrives at the bar, linking up with Tom and Dick. Immediately there is a jovial outburst as Harry notices Tom and Dick both have identical pattern shirts to his. Harry exclaims, in response to the revealation, "not you TWO TOO". Dick chips in "actually it's now we three TOO".
A short time later Tom, Dick and Harry moved TO a roulette table. "What should we bet on they muttered" Dick said "Wesley Snipes (movie star) said always bet on black" So they each put a $100 chip on black. The dealer spins and 36 Red drops. Harry said "oh so close, black's right next door".
Tom looked at the Marquee and said "look the boards full of Red spins and they can't keep on coming like that, the odds are impossible, I'm doubling up on black"
"OK" they all say and they all put $200 on Black. Round and round the little white ball goes to drop into pocket 1 Red. Dick say's "this wheel's rigged but we can beat it, we're smart guys, right fellows " ? " 'Whatcha' reckon Harry " ? Harry replies "Well I think we should bet with the wheel not against it and back Red " All three stroke their chins thinking about it, then all agree "why not ?" So on goes $400 each on Red. The dealer spins and 20 Black drops. All three are now livid.
A quiet voice next TO them say's " you guys need TO do some homework on this game". Tom says TO him " and were do we do that ? " The voice replys "on VLS Roulette Forum, that's where". "alrighty" says Tom "and who might you be ?" " Many people call me Mr. Hammer" "OK" says Tom "and has VLS wised you up TO win lots of money ?" Hammer replies "not so much TO win lots but reduces losses so we don't lose $700 each in 3 spins like you guys just have".
Tom then asks Hammer " So I 'spose you're makin' heaps every day ?" Hammer says "better than wages, in an hour I've made $300, I'm cashing in now and heading home". " Good talking TO you Tom, Dick and Harry and maybe I'll catch you on the forum soon... perhaps then all you three can TOO be making better than wages every day ? cheers guys".
Quote from: ausguy on January 06, 2014, 01:15:01 AM
hammer - It's just a matter of using the grammar/spell check tools either right here next to preview or a free on line dictionary. Spell check doesn't ID grammatical errors.
A couple of years ago I wondered why so many posters (particularly from the USA wrote "TO" instead of "TOO" for correct context meaning ?).
So back then I went on line & selected an American USA dictionary. Surprise surprise they TOO use TO & TOO in exactly the same way as English dictionaries do. So in turn you would expect schools on both sides of the Atlantic ( Pacific or Indian for us Aussies) to "officially" teach the correct meanings of TO and TOO. In a nutshell if you got it wrong in an exam then a big "X" for fail would be placed by the teacher next to that question.
A little demo, opps! Demonstration. Tom, Dick and Harry arranged TO all meet at their local casino. Harry was running a little late, so Tom and Dick went TO the bar for a drink or TWO as they waited for Harry.
At the bar Tom suddenly noticed that he and Dick were wearing identical patterned shirts. Tom exclaimed, pointing to dicks shirt, "what you TOO" and much laughter.
A few drinks later Harry arrives at the bar, linking up with Tom and Dick. Immediately there is a jovial outburst as Harry notices Tom and Dick both have identical pattern shirts to his. Harry exclaims, in response to the revealation, "not you TWO TOO". Dick chips in "actually it's now we three TOO".
A short time later Tom, Dick and Harry moved TO a roulette table. "What should we bet on they muttered" Dick said "Wesley Snipes (movie star) said always bet on black" So they each put a $100 chip on black. The dealer spins and 36 Red drops. Harry said "oh so close, black's right next door".
Tom looked at the Marquee and said "look the boards full of Red spins and they can't keep on coming like that, the odds are impossible, I'm doubling up on black"
"OK" they all say and they all put $200 on Black. Round and round the little white ball goes to drop into pocket 1 Red. Dick say's "this wheel's rigged but we can beat it, we're smart guys, right fellows " ? " 'Whatcha' reckon Harry " ? Harry replies "Well I think we should bet with the wheel not against it and back Red " All three stroke their chins thinking about it, then all agree "why not ?" So on goes $400 each on Red. The dealer spins and 20 Black drops. All three are now livid.
A quiet voice next TO them say's " you guys need TO do some homework on this game". Tom says TO him " and were do we do that ? " The voice replys "on VLS Roulette Forum, that's where". "alrighty" says Tom "and who might you be ?" " Many people call me Mr. Hammer" "OK" says Tom "and has VLS wised you up TO win lots of money ?" Hammer replies "not so much TO win lots but reduces losses so we don't lose $700 each in 3 spins like you guys just have".
Tom then asks Hammer " So I 'spose you're makin' heaps every day ?" Hammer says "better than wages, in an hour I've made $300, I'm cashing in now and heading home". " Good talking TO you Tom, Dick and Harry and maybe I'll catch you on the forum soon... perhaps then all you three can TOO be making better than wages every day ? cheers guys".
I am glad that you satisfied your ego and that you are good at least at one thing.
:agree:
Boo_Ray - Is it not better TO be good at one thing than nothing at all ? Especially in view of the fact that the post was addressed to Hammer in response to part of his
post, date/time Jan. 05, 2014 7:11pm , and closing sentence to me....." nothing ment {X = F.}(meant) by it, just my stupid sense of humour, hope I've got my spelling right,LOL"
It appears Boo_Ray you have little appreciation of humourous satire ? I look forward reading to Hammers opinion.
EEK a mistake & a correction - "I look forward TO reading Hammers opinion"
Unfurl the CAT-O-NINE-TAILS. (a nasty whip from the sailing ship days that had bits of lead at the tips & was used to TEACH SAILORS THE ERRORS OF THEIR WAYS).
Most people do waste time trying to beat roulette, by doing it the wrong way. Here it is in black and white.. and a bit of red and blue too: nolinks.genuinewinner.com/truth/
Is it money you want, or freedom? Also try nolinks.yourway.org.au
Quote from: Steve on January 06, 2014, 07:39:54 PM
Most people do waste time trying to beat roulette, by doing it the wrong way. Here it is in black and white.. and a bit of red and blue too: nolinks.genuinewinner.com/truth/
Is it money you want, or freedom? Also try nolinks.yourway.org.au
Steve that is exactly what I was trying to say. It is pretty obvious how to beat it, but people are too lazy to do so. And thanks for the other link, it might be interesting read :)
Quote from: Boo_Ray on January 05, 2014, 06:41:07 PM
hi, I it is long time I haven't posted on these forums but it looks like everyone is still stuck at the same place.
A few things to consider now:
1st-placing an equal unit on 0 every time does not affect house edge (like someone suggested that it would eliminate some risk).. because in a cycle or over a large sample you will spend the same amount of money placing it on zero that you would lose when it hits. If you are aiming sector and 0 is in it, you absolutely bet it, but on some EC bets, don't even think too much about zero because it is the same if you bet it or not.
2nd- a few short runs become a long run... there is no thing like beating roulette short run every time...
3rd- If you don't have physical edge over roulette(VB or bias), you can't have a mathematical system that will erase house edge, therefore don't even bother with progressions because it realy doesn't help you.. basicly it just forces you to bring more money in casino that you should.
4th- roulette does create a lot of sick patterns that you actualy can exploit (which situational betting is all about) but not by betting against them.
5th- there is also a thing called luck. and you have to work with it, that is why you shoudnt play if you are missing every spin and try to get some profit when you are running good.
6th- do your homework
7th- I dont know why is everyone thinking outside of the box will help. think inside of the box just done make up some stupid magical stuff up that some numbers should follow others... roulette is obvious, it is a spinning rotor with a track for ball which will fall into some slots.. And to eliminate house edge you must predict where the ball will land, the numbers are just there to name the slots so you can cover them.
8th- there is no foolproof system
I dont want to be rude or anything but if you are all going to be so naive and look for someone to flash infront of you with a holy grail system, you realy are wasting your time and potentialy your money.
cheers
Long time no hear,my Slo.mate,
--You are wrong about your;point 8th.......there is......if you interested pm.me...you are a programmer,if my memory serves me right.
As with everything in life the easiest way (rng) is most always the avenue that doesn't lead to long term success ...
the people that put in the work (AP)...reap the long term rewards.
I think that the human mind always tries to find patterns even in randomness so sometimes there may seem to be a system when there really isn't.
Quote from: bikemotorman on May 14, 2010, 08:26:29 AM
I think the key is virtual play, the method I have been testing has never lost more then six straight lost spins LLLLLLs, yes it may go more but not as of yet.
So it makes sense that a period of virtual losses will PROTECT the bank roll.
So here is the magic WORD patience to wait for 4 LLLLs then start the battle.
Makes sense to me.
Stuart
I use this method with betting the field in craps. LLLL (non field numbers) 5,10,20,40,100 stop $175 potential loss (and I have lost ) but for me it is simple math 44% chance of hitting a field number on each dice roll. My wins are about 80% losses 20% and I stop when up $225. What boosts it and makes it better in craps is the double and triple pay on 2-12 esp when you hit one of those on a higher progression bet
I win regularly @ b&m casino n I expect to win again this coming Sat**day. I know b4 hand. Is it difficult or complicated ? No
R you all wasting your time & money with all that out there shared in the forums? Yes