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Started by MR_Martingale, October 07, 2008, 11:25:49 PM

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MR_Martingale

Quote from: hammy on October 08, 2008, 07:05:15 PM
MM,

going back to

"Session #3
I went back to the same table and a Black Guy was standing at my table drinking a cup of coffee and talking to the dealer and not even playing. He was standing right where I normally stand when I play at this table. This immediately gave me bad vibes! Something was telling me not to play at this table till he leaves. But I played anyway because all the other tables were either full or half full. Being ahead $85 I started small...

-5 -10 -25 -50 +100 (#15 saved me on the last bet)
My vibes were right on!
$10 profit (I left the table)"



So, you wagered 100 to profit 10, still betting black after 4 reds was obviously streaking ? Isn't that contradicting your "streaking" rule #7 ?

Also, if you think the dealer is slowing the wheel deliberately because of your bets, why not play at a crowded table where the dealer is not paying attention to only your bets ? Since you are only making a few bets to reach your target why do you care how fast the table plays ?

I wagered 100 to profit 10 and to win back the other 4 bets I had just lost.
When a gambler loses a bet don't they try to win it back from the casino?

Rule #7  I did not make myself very clear.  Its when you first walk up to a roulette table and see 4 blacks in a row that your next bet is black if you decide to make a bet at that table.

At crowded tables the dealers usually spin the ball and wheel at the same speeds everytime. If I make a big bet at a crowded table it will be after the dealer releases the ball. If I lose I walk away instantly and I probably won't play at that table for the next few days. For the most part I don't like playing at slow crowded tables. But I will jump in once in awhile to make only one bet if I see a nice trend taking place.  I don't like standing around watching those dummies sprinkle their chips all over the carpet. This is not my cup of tea! When I'm in a casino I am looking at the Roulette scoreboards! And thinking of what move I will make on which table next!

Find a table that is nice to you! And keep going back to that table!

This is very important!

MM     

 


hammy

MM,

Yes, ok I understand rule#7. So if you had walked up to the table and seen those same 4 reds that you were betting black on, your first bet would have been red, right ?

One more question, if the black guy standing there talking to the dealer had been a red guy, would you have bet red ?!   :D ... just kidding !   ;)

An old pro gambler once told me the only way to bet red/black in roulette is alternating bets rbrbrbrb with only a 6 step martingale progression, but if you lose the first 3 bets, stop and wait for that zigzag to break, then continue with your 4th bet etc. Start the progression over after a win. I have won 8 or 9 bets in a row when you catch the zigzag in your favour. Set a quick target and quit.

cheers,
hammy

hermes

Sam, did you married the Clair Avoidance? She could be a good partner on the tables.
Marty, there are no friendly tables in casinos, all want your money. The betting after 4 blacks is suicidal because the streaks don't go to 5 and more very often. Very rigid idea. After seeing 4 blacks in row I would say is too late to bet black now, the train is gone. You have to catch the streak on the beginning, not chase the tail.
That's my humble opinion
Hermes

TwoCatSam

hermes

No, Claire and I split up!  Too bad; so sad! 

hammy

Another interesting method of playing a Martingale (if you're so inclined) is to make the wheel repeat itself six times in a row.  Example:rrbrbb.  Now bet it can't do the exact same thing in the next six spins.  Bet bbrbrr.  Each time you win, look back at the last six and start over.  Or mix up all three EC propositions. 

Believe it or don't, the wheel will beat you sooner or later.  But you knew that......

Have a hammy/sammy day!

Samster

MR_Martingale

Also guys there is an old French way of betting black/red.

If you're afraid of getting hurt by chopping colors example=> RBRBRBRB then bet the 2nd color that just came up.

MM

Proofreaders2000

"Believe it or don't, the wheel will beat you sooner or later."

Samster


I'll never believe that.....

TwoCatSam

Ummmm

In the context I put it?  Making the wheel follow six EC propositions?  I can assure you, the wheel will produce six and then six more just like them.  If you ask it to produce the six opposites it will.  Or six every other spin, it will.  Using a Martingale, no matter what you bet the wheel it can't do, it will show you it can!  Or you will hit the table limit or expend your bankroll.

Untold millions, maybe billions, have been lost on the Martingale. 

Oh, well.  Another polemic!!

Sam


hammy

Of course, you are right Sammy !!

And yes, I had alot of success with the betting sequence opposite of the last 5 or 6 black/red. I remember someone putting that thoery out in the old forum before VLS. forum. From my experience however the martingale with roulette eventually loses a huge amount, but that's where money mangement come in. Martingale past 6 steps is really suicide !

hammy

Proofreaders2000

Perhaps in that context, Sam, yes.

I (and so have many others) have invested too much time to be discouraged by this contraption.  If humans built the thing, surely humans can defeat it.

MR_Martingale

Roulette can be beaten.
It has been beaten by many people in the past and it will continue to be beaten by many people.
I have not lost in over 3 months.
Thats because I "Hit and Run" all the time.
I play "not to lose" roulette!
Smart Gamblers play not to lose!
How much they win is not their number#1 priority.
Their #1 priority is not to lose!
They don't try to bust the casino everytime they enter one!

In his book "Roulette Playing To Win" by Brett Morton he teaches you how to win consistently by betting only on the outside bets!

After reading his book I should be able to go the whole year and maybe lose only twice! (if that)

MM

xman1970

Quote from: MR_Martingale on October 09, 2008, 05:37:46 PM
Thats because I "Hit and Run" all the time.
I play "not to lose" roulette!
Smart Gamblers play not to lose!
How much they win is not their number#1 priority.
Their #1 priority is not to lose!
They don't try to bust the casino everytime they enter one!



Like theses quotes MM, makes perfect sense to me [smiley=thumbsup.gif]


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pooperscoopers@rock.com

Mr. Martingale,

Thank you,  I will check out Brett Martin's book.   :)

TwoCatSam

Where are the math wizards when you need them?  Check this out:

Thats because I "Hit and Run" all the time.

Math wizards should be buzzing about like flies at a Baptist picnic!

Where are you guys?

Sam

MR_Martingale

Here is another playable roulette betting scheme of mine...

You walk up to your favorite table and bet the last color that came up.

You either win or lose that bet.

Then you wait for the next spin result without betting, whatever color that was, then you bet it on the next spin.

You alternate follow the color. I like to Marty it of course.

Try this sometime! 

MM 

hammy

MM,

but how well would that work with 'brbrbrbr' or 'brrbbrrb' which happens all the time   :'(

and with marty it would be bankrupt !   :o

hammy

hammy

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