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Started by know when to quit, June 11, 2009, 02:50:32 AM

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bombus

Quote from: know when to quit on June 03, 2013, 05:15:29 PM
I don't think anyone will ever get to the place where they can win all the time.

Wanna bet?

know when to quit

Bombus, if you have gotten to that point congratulations I am not there yet. But hope to some day.

KWTQ

Davemd


know when to quit

Soggett and KLW,

Finally can respond to your question. You asked about why I was treating the sequence of 214 like I did. You gave me ten numbers and asked what my play would be. First here is the way I wrote it out.


spin number sec  x's   position
1-----16--------1---x   
2------2--------2----x---------2
3-----35-------2----x   
4-----27-------3----x   
5-----32-------1---------------1
6------8--------4----x   
7-----22--------4--------------4
8------5---------3--------------2
9-----10---------2---x---------1
10----35--------2--------------4

If you look first at your sections you see they have hit

1's have  hit 2
2's have hit  4
3's have hit  2
4's have hit  2

some what uneven with the second sector, but the real place to look is this sequence (at least the way I play) in the positions column 214214. So to break it up you could go 2 different ways. I chose that the next position would hit the position that was sleeping which would be sector 3, but it could go really 2 ways because it is early in the game and I was playing a table that could and had wide variations in its norm. The other way it could go would be like the law of the 3rd or the law of the bell curve of equal hits of positions (you have your positions looking like this. 2's have hit twice, 1's have hit twice, 4's have hit twice). So what you have so far is a sequence in positions of 214214, some what unusual positioning in the positions column. of 4 2 2 2 instead of 1-2, 2-2,3-2,4-2. and the sections column that makes you think the only thing for sure is 2's will not hit again. So I chose to go with the 3rd sleeping position would fill out (or down) and looked to see what the 3rd position was counted from the top down of open x's and looked to the left and saw in this case it was also the third section and placed bets on that section which were numbers 19-25-27-39-5-1-9-7-3 actually what hit was 18 which was sector 1 which unevened the number of hits in the positions column to 1's-3,2's-2,3's-0,4's-2

spin number sec  x's   position
1     16         1     x   
2       2         2     x          2
3     35         2     x   
4     27         3     x   
5     32         1     x      1
6       8         4     x   
7     22         4                4
8       5         3            2
9     10         2     x           1
10     35         2      4
11      18        1                1

from this point the 214 214 was broken up so I decided (even though it was wrong) to place bets on the sleeping section and it started eating up my progression. As a rule I have found use as a last resort plays on sleeping sections because they can continue way past what your start cash will allow. The sleeping positions finally broke 5 spins later. I would of hit but my progression would of been very high. So I backed out, and played it safe.

More later........

KWTQ

klw

Hi kwtq -- Thanks for the in depth reply. I'm glad it was position 3 you were chasing and not sector 3 , my analysis so far shows sectors can go 27 spins without hit and I'm sure they can go further than that. Position intervals seems to be less so far , my longest interval has been 16 from my limited data so you were a bit unlucky with that 1, but having said that I think there are much better bets out there.

When you get some more time can you go over the 11 spin session for us ?


Cheers.

know when to quit

Interesting in your numbers of 16 position runs. That number can be cut down or "expected" by comparing of previous gaps and hits according to the curve. For instance the last game I played I noticed by looking over my previous 5 games that an unusual event was in process. 11 numbers had spun and 8 numbers had hit twice and no number had hit 3 times.  Nothing else stood out to play so I placed bets that one of the repeats would turn into a triple repeat. Placed one chip on those plus green and it hit and I cashed in.......more later on learning how to know if a repeat number will be hit acording to the curve....something I use alot in the above example.

klw

Quote from: know when to quit on June 04, 2013, 10:48:31 AM
Interesting in your numbers of 16 position runs. That number can be cut down or "expected" by comparing of previous gaps and hits according to the curve. For instance the last game I played I noticed by looking over my previous 5 games that an unusual event was in process. 11 numbers had spun and 8 numbers had hit twice and no number had hit 3 times.  Nothing else stood out to play so I placed bets that one of the repeats would turn into a triple repeat. Placed one chip on those plus green and it hit and I cashed in.......more later on learning how to know if a repeat number will be hit acording to the curve....something I use alot in the above example.

Yes this is exactly what I was hinting about in my last post when I said " there are much better bets out there " so looking forward to that.

My latest data shows non appearance of a position is now 21 spins, not 1 to chase for me.

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21 . I have never seen that. My progression seldom reaches four chips per number so this really has me puzzled why this works....or why this works for me. But, I can't be the only person to play with this method.

One of the things I do that works well for me is I watch the spacing according to the curve if a hit will happen on repeat numbers within a sector and place an extra chip on those numbers.  I will give examples of this in my next post.

KWTQ

ales

Hi everyone,
after 4 years today I decided to log in into this forum. Guys I have spent day and night on roulette trying to beat it...as Einstein said the only way to win at roulette is to steal the money from  the croupier..

Honetsly numerologic way it is difficult almost impossible. Sometimes I put 10 eur on dublinbet and I get like 150 win and I withdrav immediatly. The roulette is a good and interesting game ion short term but in long term it is impossible to beat , only with physiscs... or biased wheel.

I have also studied numerology ( numeris) and it is all theory but in praxis does not work
I have searched on internet there are other ways to win money for example there are company that make lotteries and you don0t have to pay money just put your name and every  months someone wins..there are tons of them I won also some so giving a try won't hurt... the link is "bombus was here"

Cheers  :thumbsup:

xman1970

I hit the link & my PC security package informed me it was a "Dangerous Page" !!!!

You have been warned ppl  :o

marvin

Quote from: know when to quit on June 04, 2013, 01:39:47 PM
21 . I have never seen that. My progression seldom reaches four chips per number so this really has me puzzled why this works....or why this works for me. But, I can't be the only person to play with this method.

One of the things I do that works well for me is I watch the spacing according to the curve if a hit will happen on repeat numbers within a sector and place an extra chip on those numbers.  I will give examples of this in my next post.

KWTQ

5 steps for me so far but it usually hits in 2-3 steps
green is also a savior  :biggrin:

marvin

correction just got a 7 now  :biggrin: but after that ... i got a WLWWL   :good:

klw

 Hi marvin is that on a live casino wheel or rng. ?

marvin

yes live casino wheel
but hey, i maybe looking at the curve differently.

know when to quit

Hello again,

Sorry for the absence over the last few days. I have been very busy with "things". There is life outside the wheel.

I did have something very interesting happen, that made me very nervous. I thought I had seen it all with casino life. I went after going probably too often but went anyway. The room where the tables are and the wheel was completely empty except the attendants. I noticed they moved the wheel to the other side of the room right under the larger camera that tilts and pans. Perhaps coincidence . It was also beside the door to the security room where many of the monitors are. When I sat at the table people started running (walking fast) in and out of the room. I won 2 out of the first 5 spins. Then, the owner comes out and starts talking to me very fidgety. I thought this can not end well. I started making typo's with my spins and lost. He was glad and I walked out. This did not bother me in the least because I knew from the sequences I could get it back quickly. It was a great time to lose with that much attention. I went back two days later and won back everything plus as much as I lost in less than 10 spins using progressions starting at 4 chips on each number. The owner was obviously gone that 20 minute time slot. I will probably not go back for a week, and will choose a different time.

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