Please tell me what you think of these systems

[ReDsQuaD]

hi dave, bombus and xman 

[xman1970]

hi dave, bombus and xman 

Hey red 

Hope life is treating you well 

[marvin]

Hello again,

Sorry for the absence over the last few days. I have been very busy with "things". There is life outside the wheel.

I did have something very interesting happen, that made me very nervous. I thought I had seen it all with casino life. I went after going probably too often but went anyway. The room where the tables are and the wheel was completely empty except the attendants. I noticed they moved the wheel to other side of the room right under the larger camera that tilts and pans. Perhaps coincidence . It was also beside the door to the security room where many of the monotors are. When I sat at the table people started running (walking fast) in and out of the room. I won 2 out of the first 5 spins. Then, the owner comes out and starts talking to me very fidgety. I thought this can not end well. I started making typo's with my spins and lost. He was glad and I walked out. This did not bother me in the least because I knew from the sequences I could get it back quickly. It was a great time to lose with that much attention. I went back two days later and won back everything plus as much as I lost in less than 10 spins using progressions starting at 4 chips on each number. The owner was obviously gone that 20 minute time slot. I will probably not go back for a week, and will choose a different time.

wew! be careful 

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One quick note. Don't forget that the number of hits per color -sector -odd- even- columns- streets-etc... should all be even over time.  But, the spaces between them and the frequency they hit or sleep will follow the exponential curve. Spotting Extreams on that curve can mean the difference of winning or losing when covered by a good progression. .

[klw]

One quick note. Don't forget that the number of hits per color -sector -odd- even- columns- streets-etc... should all be even over time.  But, the spaces between them and the frequency they hit or sleep will follow the exponential curve. Spotting Extreams on that curve can mean the difference of winning or losing when covered by a good progression. .

Interesting stuff kwtq but woulden't it be more helpful if you posted some actual spins examples.Then more people would most probably " get it "

Who's idea is the poll by the way ?


Cheers.

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Hey KLW.,

I thought this was a bit quiet, I was thinking people were catching on and thought I would find out by a poll to make sure I was reading it correctly. I think you're right. I will post some examples from my different games to help understand this method tomorrow.

KWTQ

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Will post later on tonight examples of play since it looks like many do not understand how to play this way yet. I went to the casino again today and talked with the owner before I sat down to play. I asked him if I kept winning if he would kick me out, he said no and we talked some more.  After 45 min of playing I cashed out with 4375.00. units a bit more than normal bit could not pass up the last hit I saw coming. More later but it will be closer to 11:00 pm.

[litiki777]

Hello KWTQ, KLW and Marvin// Thanks a lot for showing us the Curve strategy.
I just heard about this chat room 2-3 days ago and I have been studying it carefully. KLW and Marvin explanations help me a lot. Many thanks! I am still pretty fuzzy about this strategy.

1/ In the examples you are about to write tonight, could you explain more about the positions of hit? I understand how to derive a position from the previous sector but I CANNOT understand the meaning of these positions. I DON'T see how these positions are related to determine what sectors (or numbers) for the next bets. Please explain.

2/ About the most recent way to define a sector (using numbers along the wheel, assign numbers to sectors 1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4...) why do you choose this technique ? In European roulette, it has regions defined as Voisins Du Zero (clockwise 22-25), Orphelins(1-9 and 17-6), Tiers Du Cylindre (27-33) and you can select a region simply by pressing of a button, quick and easy. Could I define the sectors mapping to these regions ? I think once a sleeping sector is
identified using this Curve strategy, I could hit a button to select that sector quickly.

3/ I am surprised when you can identify that the 10 numbers KLW provided were coming from airball machine, not from live one.  Could you tell the difference in numbers generated on these machines ?

I am eagerly waiting to see your examples tonight. Thanks!

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Almost 3:00am and finally am getting this posted.

Yes this is complicated with many comments boxes once again. The advantage to this method is being able to cross many graphs and curves to narrow down what number or pairs of numbers will be hit. For instance today I was playing the normal positions game like I talked about in previous post but noticed several sleepers were happening at the same time. A convergence was happening. for the numbers 18 and 21. I placed my normal progression bet on the position which was 2 chips and placed 4 on 18 and 21. 21 hit and I cashed out. I will write more on this next post.

KWTQ

[klw]

Hi kwtq -- Thank you very much for taking the time to do this , it is much appreciated. I haven't had the chance to look at in great detail yet, it looks really interesting and has answered some of my questions already but I'm sure there will be some more.


Cheers.

[klw]

Hi kwtq -- ok, questions ---

1. Why are you looking for imbalance of hits between sectors and positions, you say you ignore sector hits for the most part.
I have noticed from my analysis of rng that sector hits outweigh position hits by roughly 15 % but that doesen't mean that is
always the case , every now and again positions will have more hits than sectors.Are they nearly always equal on live wheel ?

2. ( from note no. 2 ) Why don't you want the sector to repeat ?
Your sectors only repeat every 16 spins ! Wow , I would be all over that like a rash playing 3 sectors that is a huge edge ,
you win 15 x 9 chips = 135 and lose 27 chips once every 16 spins or am I missing something ?

3. ( from note 3 ) Can you give an example of when / how you would play singles / teens etc when out of synch ?

4. ( from note 7 ) The comment regarding " screaming for attention  -- position 4 ) , what is the longest series of
spins for a no hit on a position , on my rng it is well into the 20's so even after 13 spins I would not consider it.
It looks like I would need some big adjustments playing online or maybe switch to live Dublin Bet or similar.

Thank you for your patience with me. There is some excellent information in there. Is this from a session you played and could you show us what you bet and why and what was the results ?



Cheers.

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This will take some time to explain because I never just watch only one point. I do a lot of comparisons. This allows me to sort out numbers to place bets on not just entire sectors.

[marvin]

This will take some time to explain because I never just watch only one point. I do a lot of comparisons. This allows me to sort out numbers to place bets on not just entire sectors.

good tips
thanks

[klw]

This will take some time to explain because I never just watch only one point. I do a lot of comparisons. This allows me to sort out numbers to place bets on not just entire sectors.

Hi kwtq -- I might be wrong but I get the feeling I am asking way to many questions ( for my liking anyway at least ) , I am not a regular poster either ( like most others on here lol ) but this thread has captured my imagination and I am just trying to learn your way of playing roulette so I shall go back to being a lurker and reader in the background and be very grateful for any posts that you make in the future.

Cheers .

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you're not asking too many questions the problem is I'm responding to slow. I should have time to answer them this afternoon.  Thanks for your patience. I will be going to the casino again this afternoon or tomorrow afternoon and then I will have more than enough money to go to the states for 3 days.I would like to stay longer but I have too many obligations here.

KWTQ

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