MXkid77's LOT

[MXkid77]

I have been studying a bit regarding the Law Of The Third, I can't find much on this site, but to me in all the tests I have done, it just makes sence to develop a betting plan for this. This is what I have been testing so far. I have limited the play to 4 sessions, 144 spins in total, profit has consistently been between 100 units - 900 units (sometimes more) per 1 session. I have been seeing above + 2000 units in a complete 4 session play.

I have mainly been testing with RNG spins, run through RX to be able to view results and it has been good so far. For this excersize and to show some results, can somebody post 36 live wheel spun number for me..... Unfortunately, some won't like this due to there being a progression involved.

Much appreciated.

[MattyMattz]

Sure MX,

Here are 36 live spins (from file db249):

9
8
35
20
35
23
18
26
20
28
32
35
7
14
14
11
3
4
26
20
35
15
5
17
9
5
33
13
5
19
4
16
14
8
26
5

Cheers,
Matt

[MXkid77]

Thanks Matt, sorry for the delay. here goes.

9
8
35
20
35
23
18
26
20
28
32
35
7
14
14
11
3
4
26  w +3.60
20  w +7.20
35  w +10.80
15  l   -1.80
5    l  -5.40
17  l  -12.60
9   w +28.80
5   l   -1.80
33  l  -5.40
13  l  -12.60
5    l  -27.00
19  l  -57.60
4    w +259.20
16  l   -1.80
14  w  +3.60
8   w  +3.60
26  w  +3.60
5    l  -1.80

Because play foreign currently i play with a 10c unit, so in the last 18 spins i would be total + 1926 units or $192.60. it did go to the 6th progression, and in all my tests with RNG's i've seen it go no more than 8th prog. Just to confirm on my calculations i will run it through Roulette Extreme as soon as my registration key gets e-mailed to me.

I will post some of my RNG test below.

[MXkid77]

Test Session 2 Live RNG (Highest progression 6)



Test Session 3 Live RNG (Highest progression 5)



Test Session 4 Live RNG (Highest progression 7)

[xman1970]

Nice results MXkid77, just one question......

Why are you playing RNG ??

I don't know if they are fixed but surely a live wheel would be better???


Take it easy....

[MXkid77]

Hi X, when i have some losses i keep asking myself the same question. the problems i am faced with playing live is the bandwidth usage and playing foreign currency i use 10c units. The bandwidth runs up real quick, +- 150 mb's for a 30 minute session, as aposed to the RNG's being under 1mb for the same 30 minute session. I know that my winnings to MB usage ratio will be better on the live, but i am faced with time restrictions aswell.

then there is my big picture that would just not be possible playing live wheels and working a full time job at the same time. refer to nolinks://vlsroulette.com/general-board/what-is-your-calling/ reply#9.

It does sometimes feel playing RNG's that they are watching where your bets are being placed, but how awesome would it be if we had a system to use and announced "guys watch all you want" haha....

[xman1970]

Fair enough MX,

I take your point, & hope you don't find out the hard way about RNG 

Hope you can find sometime to leap over to a "live" wheel....


BTW, I've PM'ed you...


Cheers[smiley=beer.gif]

[Talesman]

Some folks say that the "law of the third" is a hoax. 

I don't think so as my recorded actuals show otherwise.

Let's say we know it exists.  You will need a crystal ball to determine which numbers will sleep, which will appear and which umbers will repeat.

Lots of plans out there based on the LotT.  Not many come close to winning.

All that said, how can anyone believe that the law of the third could even remotely apply to an RNG?

[MXkid77]

Talesman,

i often ask myself the same question, if the TRNG's are grabbed from a sattelite when the spin button is hit, how can there, or how is it possible for the Law Of The Third to exist.

It exists in the Playtech TRNG's i've tested with above, otherwise the figures would be much different, i am running two tests on Roulette Xtreme 2 at the moment, 360 000 spins & 1 440 000 spins, although i am not sure how RX generates its numbers, but at the end of the day, random numbers are "random numbers", and being random, there should be no LOT 

I will post the results as soon as i am done.

[Talesman]

I don't get it...for years we had daily Hamburg actuals from all their tables.  Now that service is defunct we have Wiesbaden.

For 00 wheel players we have Jim Ferr's Website. 

And folks still use an RNG?

While it may be a bit of work if someone needs to run 10,000 or so spins why not combine a few months worth of Wiesbaden (same table) and use that?

Someone did that for a year's worth of Hamburg table #1 (made one huge file).  Interesting results.  I did that with 00 numbers from Ferr's site and got the same results.  What was determined, among other things, is that the Low/High had the longest streaks of any EC in roulette and I think more of them as well.  That data was lost when VIP went dark.  Turbo may have saved that info that was presented.  Just a guess.

Some of our members here may have that file in their collection.

[gizmotron]

And folks still use an RNG?

OK Talesman, lets get to the bottom of this RNG thing once and for all. What's needed is a real computer based wheel that uses random physics and peculiarities to produce spins. They would be disk based with track resistance to friction, humidity, ball changes, bumpers, and slot bouncing. Of course there will be random wheel speeds and dealer spin speeds as well as random release points. In effect they would act like real spins just like 3-D is real coordinates in a visualized two dimensional computer screen.

What say you?

I can and will build a free cross platform wheel just for that purpose. Victor can even have a CGI version of it if he wants. I will need a lot of help but it would be the coolest thing on the internet in the entire world. You could use it to conduct testing trials in real time in a testing forum, perhaps, maybe.

It's source code should be displayed just like all known encryption algorithms are. There should be no doubt that it is random for 0 & 00 Roulette.

[bjb007]

Thought of doing something like this with
trueSpace which is now free.

nolinks://nolinks.caligari.com/

[gizmotron]

Yeah, that would be real cool. I'm talking about doing it as an algorithm only without all the visual tricks. I'm also not actually recommending doing it as a 3-D because its sole purpose is to produce actuals that really count. It would be a computer simulated actual, a new category for testing.

[MXkid77]

Here's another test from TCS's RNG actuals from RB



(Highest progression 7)

[Spike]

Some folks say that the "law of the third" is a hoax.>>

I don't think its a hoax. Its more of a 'broad suggestion' than a law, however. As with most broad suggestions in gambling, its fairly unreliable.

[Spike]

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