An idea based on winkel's single number system.

[TwoCatSam]

Seeding the lawn and letting the mind run wild..........

What if we took every number that hit and bet on it ten spins?  All numbers will, sooner or later, hit twice within ten spins.  This is a take-off of my "Green on the Screen" where I bet the zero once is has appeared for the next ten spins only.  Believe it or don't--this makes money over time.  Since zero is not really special, any number should do the same thing. 

Just a little work tracking, but you would be betting ten numbers every spin and at all different levels since I do use a progression on this.  The progression-creator program works great to do this, but I did it on me toes.

You never stop!  When you log off just keep your progression.  Of course you have to taper off for ten spins.  I mean--start no new progressions as you are quitting in ten spins.

I carried progressions for days on the zero.  Only lost once when I hit $13 at CasinoWebCam and at their $5 level, it would not take the bet.  That really hurt and taught me a lesson--know your table maximums!

OK, I've done my bit for the day!

TwoCatSam

[Herb]

It won't work.

I can simulate it for you if you would like.

[berlinerbruce]

Hi 2 cat, try looking at my method here on this section, idea is there but think betting strategy needs to be changed. All the best Berliner Bruce

[TwoCatSam]

Give me a link, Bruce..

Don't know which one you're talking about.

Sam

This one?


Hi lads, know its not easy with explaining things in post form only, but here goes, select the first 12  non repeating numbers, off the board. Player shall bet as follows,,, 1 unit on each number             1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1,,, EG,, 0 32 15 19 4 21 2 25 17 34 6 27,,,  the next spin the player receives number  10 this is a loss, so now the player disregards   number  0,, and now he we would play the following,, 32 15 19 4 21 2 25 17 34 6 27  and 10,,,betting sequence is now,,, 2 units on 32 and 1 unit on the next 11 numbers, EG,, 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1,,, now the player receives the number 20 from the next spin, he shall now bet as follows,, 15 19 4 21 2 25 17 34 6 27 10 and 20,, as you can see the 13th spin has been eliminated once again, and betting sequence would be as follows 2 units on 15 and 2 units on 19 and on the rest  1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1, this betting method is called ATILA,,,i think I got that right,,SO to summarize the player adds the new spin to the last 11 numbers that have came in, and he also discards the 13 Th spin,,and so on and so on, player only starts with 1 unit on each number when he is in profit. The idea behind this is that one of your 12 numbers will repeat. LAW OF THIRDS   after one cycle [37 spins] that on average only 24 numbers will show. SO I thought that if we CHASE THE WHEEL we would meet a repeating number. If we incur a repeating number we then will eliminate these 2 numbers from our 12 betting numbers and add the VERY LAST 2 non repeating numbers from the previous spins. please let me know if you think it can be improved , or if there is something that needs explaining. WOULD APRICIATE IT IF SOME OF YOU GUYS COULD CODE THIS. Hand testing has given very encouraging results, as always kind regards BERLINERBRUCE.   

[TwoCatSam]

Hi lads, know its not easy with explaining things in post form only, but here goes, select the first 12  non repeating numbers, off the board. Player shall bet as follows,,, 1 unit on each number             1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1,,, EG,, 0 32 15 19 4 21 2 25 17 34 6 27,,,  the next spin the player receives number  10 this is a loss, so now the player disregards   number  0,, and now he we would play the following,, 32 15 19 4 21 2 25 17 34 6 27  and 10,,,betting sequence is now,,, 2 units on 32 and 1 unit on the next 11 numbers, EG,, 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1,,, now the player receives the number 20 from the next spin, he shall now bet as follows,, 15 19 4 21 2 25 17 34 6 27 10 and 20,, as you can see the 13th spin has been eliminated once again, and betting sequence would be as follows 2 units on 15 and 2 units on 19 and on the rest  1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1, this betting method is called ATILA,,,i think I got that right,,SO to summarize the player adds the new spin to the last 11 numbers that have came in, and he also discards the 13 Th spin,,and so on and so on, player only starts with 1 unit on each number when he is in profit. The idea behind this is that one of your 12 numbers will repeat. LAW OF THIRDS   after one cycle [37 spins] that on average only 24 numbers will show. SO I thought that if we CHASE THE WHEEL we would meet a repeating number. If we incur a repeating number we then will eliminate these 2 numbers from our 12 betting numbers and add the VERY LAST 2 non repeating numbers from the previous spins. please let me know if you think it can be improved , or if there is something that needs explaining. WOULD APRICIATE IT IF SOME OF YOU GUYS COULD CODE THIS. Hand testing has given very encouraging results, as always kind regards BERLINERBRUCE. 


Bruce

See the red above.  Does this mean we must have 12 singletons?  If there is a repeat in the last twelve, do we start over from the repeat and chart for 12?  This could be a very good idea!

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

Hi lads, know its not easy with explaining things in post form only, but here goes, select the first 12  non repeating numbers, off the board. Player shall bet as follows,,, 1 unit on each number             1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1,,, EG,, 0 32 15 19 4 21 2 25 17 34 6 27,,,  the next spin the player receives number  10 this is a loss, so now the player disregards   number  0,, and now he we would play the following,, 32 15 19 4 21 2 25 17 34 6 27  and 10,,,betting sequence is now,,, 2 units on 32 and 1 unit on the next 11 numbers, EG,, 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1,,, now the player receives the number 20 from the next spin, he shall now bet as follows,, 15 19 4 21 2 25 17 34 6 27 10 and 20,, as you can see the 13th spin has been eliminated once again, and betting sequence would be as follows 2 units on 15 and 2 units on 19 and on the rest  1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1, this betting method is called ATILA,,,i think I got that right,,SO to summarize the player adds the new spin to the last 11 numbers that have came in, and he also discards the 13 Th spin,,and so on and so on, player only starts with 1 unit on each number when he is in profit. The idea behind this is that one of your 12 numbers will repeat. LAW OF THIRDS   after one cycle [37 spins] that on average only 24 numbers will show. SO I thought that if we CHASE THE WHEEL we would meet a repeating number. If we incur a repeating number we then will eliminate these 2 numbers from our 12 betting numbers and add the VERY LAST 2 non repeating numbers from the previous spins. please let me know if you think it can be improved , or if there is something that needs explaining. WOULD APRICIATE IT IF SOME OF YOU GUYS COULD CODE THIS. Hand testing has given very encouraging results, as always kind regards BERLINERBRUCE.

Bruce

See the blue above.  Does this mean that you include the two numbers 13 and 14 in the mix now.  In other words, jump back and re-include two numbers you had excluded?

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

Bruce

You wrote:


LAW OF THIRDS   after one cycle [37 spins] that on average only 24 numbers will show. SO I thought that if we CHASE THE WHEEL we would meet a repeating number.

I'm a little unclear on this.  I understand the LoT and this doesn't seem to me to be it.  You could probably satisfy the LoT and never have a number on the screen repeat....ever.  Why?  Because they are constantly changing/rotating. 

The Lot says, "In a trot of 37........etc."  Your trot of 37 begins anew each spin.

I still like the system as it is quite difficult to find a marquee of 12 with no repeaters; happens very frequently.

One last thing...I feel if your idea and my idea of when to start betting on repeats were combined, the tree could bear fruit.  I will think on it.

Sam

[berlinerbruce]

Hi two cat, and thanks for your interest

12 singletons as you put it is correct mate

adding 13th and 14th spin is an option but i tend to go for the very last non repeaters for this method

would like to add after 37 spins all numbers are classed as non repeaters

hope this helps mate

just a thought here, some numbers just simply don't show sometimes for long periods whether its wheel bias or just normal behavior of the wheel, if so while this is taking place, haven't we got a WEE advantage here

kind regards Bruce

[TwoCatSam]

Bruce

There are scarce few things about roulette I know for a fact but one of them is that things happen in waves, groups, clusters or whatever terminology one wishes to use.  Birds of a feather flock together. 

I am thinking about your idea with this twist:  Wait for 12 singletons.....then.....wait for the first repeater of the last 12 on marquee.  You might have to wait twenty spins.  I did today!  Anyway, when you get your first repeater, begin betting.  As a rule, and a seldom broken rule at that, when you have a long period of X and then Y happens, Y will happen again very soon.

I found the answer to the Scooby Wheel paradox and I know why Scooby stopped talking about it.

Cheers.....

Samster

[berlinerbruce]

Hi TC sorry for the long delay mate

ill get to my point mate, Ive taken this method of mine and well how can I explain mmmmmmmm well Ive haven't tweaked it Ive completely overhauled IT

been testing it with 25 #s    yep you read that correctly mate, 25 #s

Attila has been replaced by Oscars grind

and if we receive a repeat it stays in the bet selection

codegenic is getting back to me with test results

reason 25#s is that I feel we need to take full advantage of sleeping #s

will wait for your reply eagerly

all the best BerlinerBruce

[JHM]

Sam,

Another thing I noticed while playing GUT and watching droidman's tracker. Wait when column 2 is between 7-10 and a number hit's first for the third time. A lot of movement is happening then with the 2. Going up and down. Flat bet the numbers that have hit twice. Just sharing some brainstorming.

[TwoCatSam]

Bruce

I will await your stats!

Jur

Funny, I've noticed something like that myself.  Going to study more on it.

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

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