Gamblers Fallacy (not what you think)

[Kelly]

Crogo, in 500 trials you will see that it can go anywhere on the wheel but its by far not an equal distribution.  See the chart in reply 41.  Why we discuss AP ? Beats me, its j that keeps bringing it up because he think his friend herb is a pain in the ass.

If probability is used as excuse/method to use past numbers to predict future spins, the method is faulty.

Gocro  if i use 8 spins and only 1 out of 8 diamonds is struck, Gamblers Fallacy would be to believe that the other 7 diamonds is gonna start catch up soon.  I know that they won`t start doing that before the wheel is fixed. Its not an opinion, the ball WILL hit that diamond each time.  If someone told me the high point was at 12 oclock diamond i wouldn`t even need a past spin, but i cant just place a level on the casino wheel before i play, so using a few spins to tell me is the best way.

[Mr J]

"If probability is used as excuse/method to use past numbers to predict future spins, the method is faulty" >>> And this is what I have said 100 times before.

ANY ANY ANY ANY method that is not AP (the broken dream) will be dismissed by the AP crew because they think they are superior for some reason.    They cant win so THEY bring others down with them, thats a FACT.

Ken

[Kelly]

No its the definition of gamblers fallacy. Save your mantras.

[Mr J]

Convenient as usual.

Your way = the correct way.

Everyone else = the wrong way.


Must be nice to be you. 

Ken

[Kelly]

I dont quite see it that way, but i think you do. I think you should see a psychologist or something. Maybe you were abused by an advantage player as a kid.

The topic was gamblers fallacy, the real, but sub agenda, was GF versus AP. Like i said, if i was allowed to put a level on all wheels in the casino, i wouldn`t waste my time on watching past spins to see which diamonds are hit. So not even that can be used in your agenda.

[Mr J]

"if I was allowed to put a level on all wheels in the casino" >>> Well if the casinos ever change that rule and let us walk in with a level, the BOTH of us would have it made. Until then, all you have are BS stories.

Ken

[bombus]

"if I was allowed to put a level on all wheels in the casino" >>> Well if the casinos ever change that rule and let us walk in with a level, the BOTH of us would have it made. Until then, all you have are BS stories.

Ken

The spirit level is a rudimentary tool for measuring the horizontal or vertical plane of any surface or object.

Spirit levels are often made to a much lower standard than professional roulette wheels, and so have inbuilt bias problems themselves; these can be out of level up to 3mm per metre.

Regardless, your quoted statement is completely juxtaposed to your beliefs. You believe there are no tilted wheels anymore, so why bother with a level?

But if tilted wheels are out there, and a level could help identify same (which with this post you admitted as a possibility) then what makes you think intelligent people can't come up with alternative tools to identify these tilted wheels without the use of a level?

There is always more than one way to skin a cat, and roulette is no exception.

[Zindrod]

The spirit level is a rudimentary tool for measuring the horizontal or vertical plane of any surface or object.

Spirit levels are often made to a much lower standard than professional roulette wheels, and so have inbuilt bias problems themselves; these can be out of level up to 3mm per metre.

Regardless, your quoted statement is completely juxtaposed to your beliefs. You believe there are no tilted wheels anymore, so why bother with a level?

But if tilted wheels are out there, and a level could help identify same (which with this post you admitted as a possibility) then what makes you think intelligent people can't come up with alternative tools to identify these tilted wheels without the use of a level?

There is always more than one way to skin a cat, and roulette is no exception.

Exactly Bombus. Exactly.

[schoenpoetser]

A row of 10 ECs happens on average in 512 spins.I wager I cannot guess a repetition of the row.In spite of my expection the repetition falls.In my opinion this is GF.
Very rare it happens in my SSBmodel for ECs.

[Mr J]

"You believe there are no tilted wheels anymore" >>> No kidding and it still stands. I was being facetious.

Ken

[Zindrod]

"You believe there are no tilted wheels anymore" >>> No kidding and it still stands. I was being facetious.

Ken

OMG. Are you serious? Ok. Let me ask you this. What is a tilted wheel? How would one determine whether a wheel is tilted or not?

Regards
Z

[GogoCro]

Crogo, in 500 trials you will see that it can go anywhere on the wheel but its by far not an equal distribution.

But AP players relie that ball will hit a diamond often then others due some low influances bias.In another hand, gaoal is to guess on wich number will ball land and no which diamond will hit. ED is still based on undetermined factors (spread area of pocets clearly shows that).
Its same thing to think that one diamond would be hit more then others due some ilusional bias what have not a power to have inpact on ball momentum, rotation, direction, spin - its to weak! - GF.

Even if wheel is tilted in some degree and track is ware-off - overall area of roulette is too small and ball is too fast to change anything - ball can bounce every time diffrently based on many many factors. One example on tilted wheel mean nothing. Ken is angry bc every single time some AP player distrupt system topic threads claiming bla,bla,bla - we do not care!! Its a hobby to us - not living. We do not care finding flows in roulette and exploit it...that is not game roulette about!

[Mr J]

OMG. Are you serious? Ok. Let me ask you this. What is a tilted wheel? How would one determine whether a wheel is tilted or not?

Regards
Z

Are we gonna argue the definition of 'tilted'? You are asking the WRONG cat. Ask The AP (the broken dream) crew. I have read (on this board) that a gifted AP guy can spot a tilted wheel in only 3 spins. 


Ken

[Mr J]

A) One restaurant

B) With a partner

C) Around 80% of winnings, not 100%

D) You sound jealous

E) Good, you should be  

F) 10 posts....of course everyone has to be on HIGH ALERT until we really find out who it is, boring.

G) Methods, not systems

Ken

[Mr J]

Yep.....someone who was banned (or left) before, no doubt about it. I can spot it a mile out. 

Ken

[Mr J]

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