1 more try to open ur eyeees!

[viper5]

hi again my friends!

I am trying to help u here!

some ppl seem to be helped and I am really proud for them!

I like that Ikarianman who is from the same country like me opened his eyes...............

Greek ppl always were smart......

so Lets again explore this wonderfull game of ROULETTE!

Roulette is a mechanism!
its a bowl with a rotor that spins a ball and hit in the traveling rotor!

so Roulette doesn t have nums....it has only pockets,that are numbered with nums......

so she is complitely Random and complitely without any Memoriy!

These 2 things make her unbeatable with any math or possibilities system!

any time a system wins is just by luck!

the more times we will chase some numbers the more easy will be to hit them
the more numbers we bet the easyier we will win!!!    and all these are by luck!

that is why its called for 400 years a Lucky game!
that s why casinos have it there 400 years.......and win sooooooo much cash!

even a poor brain man can understand this and not couse I saw so...but couse no system have won her in the long term EVER......
the people that say that randomless is a good thing...they just haven t play roulette or they are withought brain or are scams!

The VLS forum is the best Forum of roulette in the World.....

and this is why there are a lot of perfect systems makers(inventers),perfect testers,perfect perfect perfect!!!!!!!

and 1 of the best part is that all have the hunger to win this game!!!!

all of us we combine a better brain than the Einstain......
couse 500 brains are better than 1!!!!!

so u have seen till now 400 years that no system is a long tern winner.....
when will u understand Huh?Huh??

this game is a lucky game like all the others!

but couse u can do combinations-progrations etc....some people think that they can find a system that wins!!!!!

but all the time the same paterrn again!!!!!

win 1 lose 2
or win 100 lose200......in the long term I meen!!!

the casinos are looking our effort and lauph!!!!!!!!

when will u undersand this.............

the casino edje 2.75 can t change with maths....couse maths says that 2,75 is the favour to Casino!!!!!

so every time we are trying to make a new system  everytime we have this opponent------player<Roulette the deference is ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS
ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS 2.75!!!!!!!!!

its is exactly like trieng to do this:

we all know that 1+1 = 2 what ever u do...even pull ur penis very hard...even if u hit ur ass very hard ...even if u cut ur leg......even if u are an alien.....
this will NEVER change!!!!!!
so we are trying to make the 1+1=anythinh else exept 2........

the sooner u will understand it...the sooner u will not lose more time and more money!!!!!!

I did this again to help u.....

I hope  2-3 more ppl will open thair eyes

the others are just doomed........

ur friend viper

ps.Remember that these are the words that are coming from a man that wanted to beet the roulette more than anyone!!!!!!

[lucky_strike]

Viper5 you don't want every one to use a dominant ball drop.

Keep a low profile.

LS

[simon]

you could also say that there have been thousands of posts at GG and here and other forums and apparently no one has come up with a winning system, so why should we have any expectation that anyone will?  We shouldn't, not after 0.0 percent of the thousands of posts have come up with the answer.  They say that insanity is doing the same thing over and over and getting the same results.  and for sure that goes on here, and in our own studies.  unfortunately.  Perhaps we are all insane??  Perhaps we should all just... go home...

[lucky_strike]

Perhaps we should all just... go home...

No stay and keep up the good work.
Let me know when you have found an edge.

Many thanks LS

[simon]

perhaps someone should just write a book called "Confessions of a Roulette Systems Addict" and you could sell the book and make some money.  You can talk about how much time it takes up and how it interrupts other things and how you can't stop thinking about how you will beat the game and how you lose sleep and hide it from your wife, etc, etc.  But then you don't have to write the book, all anyone has to do is print out all these thousands of pages of posts, it's all here.....

[Number Six]

People do have winning systems or methods that don't involve VB, DS or bias. Only they don't want to explain them to the public and why should they...these things don't drop out of the sky, they take hard work to accomplish. Also, some methods can't be explained. If the skilled commander's thoughts were easily understandable, then every lowly infantryman would be a great general.

[lucky_strike]

perhaps someone should just write a book called "Confessions of a Roulette Systems Addict" and you could sell the book and make some money.  You can talk about how much time it takes up and how it interrupts other things and how you can't stop thinking about how you will beat the game and how you lose sleep and hide it from your wife, etc, etc.  But then you don't have to write the book, all anyone has to do is print out all these thousands of pages of posts, it's all here.....

People do have winning systems or methods that don't involve VB, DS or bias. Only they don't want to explain them to the public and why should they...these things don't drop out of the sky, they take hard work to accomplish. Also, some methods can't be explained. If the skilled commander's thoughts were easily understandable, then every lowly infantryman would be a great general.

I just hope that we will see less of posters that just claims to have that and that with out showing how.

I have been talking to members on this forum and I am not the one ho should take away there dream.
To many wants to pay there bills with roulette money and not work 8 to 5.

It hurts and ho am I to argue or claim any thing.
I just wont to save them from getting hurt and lose less money.

How do I do that?
I say no.

Yes I know I cant force them into what I think is correct but I will let you know here and now what I think.

First I want them to know that they should take care of there relations with family, kids and friends, then I want to tell them that they last for a life time.
Then I want them to know that roulette can be a hobby for a life time.
This way you can find peace and become a happy winner at all times even if you not go home with a profit.

Cheers LS

 

[lucky_strike]

Cheers LS

[Mr Chips]

Let me open your eyes to the fact that I have developed various versions of an EC system that identifies Red and Black by the use
of symbols and they have made a consistent profit over a number of years. I have mentioned a version called the Signum system in
the Mr Chips section.
 
Also I tested here the 4Selecta system that made a profit over a number of months with verifiable Spielbank spins and anyone is at
liberty to produce evidence of it failing over several months, but no one has produced that so far!
 
Wasn't it the ancient Greeks who were smart?
 
Mr Chips

[Ulysses]

hi Viper, maybe you are just unlucky. Gamblers need a third each of skill, discipline and luck. Missing in one of these constants results in cataclysmic catastrophe.

[lucky_strike]

I just hope that we will see less of posters that just claims to have that and that with out showing how.

See what happens and don't say that i did not told you so

Cheers LS

[lucky_strike]

I just hope that we will see less of posters that just claims to have that and that with out showing how.

I have been talking to members on this forum and I am not the one ho should take away there dream.
To many wants to pay there bills with roulette money and not work 8 to 5.

It hurts and ho am I to argue or claim any thing.
I just wont to save them from getting hurt and lose less money.

How do I do that?
I say no.

Yes I know I cant force them into what I think is correct but I will let you know here and now what I think.

First I want them to know that they should take care of there relations with family, kids and friends, then I want to tell them that they last for a life time.
Then I want them to know that roulette can be a hobby for a life time.
This way you can find peace and become a happy winner at all times even if you not go home with a profit.

You just woundering if you could put and end to a never ending story

LS

[simon]

Let me open your eyes to the fact that I have developed various versions of an EC system that identifies Red and Black by the use
of symbols and they have made a consistent profit over a number of years. I have mentioned a version called the Signum system in
the Mr Chips section.
 
Also I tested here the 4Selecta system that made a profit over a number of months with verifiable Spielbank spins and anyone is at
liberty to produce evidence of it failing over several months, but no one has produced that so far!

.... are either of these systems explained anywhere? (or just discussed theoretically like endless psycho-babble)

[viper5]

@mr chips
yes the ancient Greeks was smart...and the new greeks have their blood and dna so we are smart too!!!!

@ls
i didn t tell them what to do in order to win....i just tell them the maths can t do it so......

@ulises
i haven t miss anything!!!!

the randomness is the one that keeps u lose

[Tangram]

The mistake is in thinking that there is one relatively simple system which will win forever and a day. I can understand the appeal of this idea, but sooner or later you have to abandon it if you actually want to make a profit. I can't tell you exactly what I do, not because it isn't possible to explain it, or because I'm scared the casinos will change the rules (which I think is ridiculous paranoia), but because (as N6 mentioned) it would be very difficult and take too long. Also, you need to apply your own intelligence and make your own mistakes, from which you learn. In the same way that you can't spoon-feed someone a college education; they have to do the necessary work and gain understanding for themselves, it isn't possible to give someone a few rules and expect them to become instant masters. But the essence of the strategy could be summed up with basic probability theory:

Suppose there are systems a, b, c... each with probability of success P_a, P_b, P_c...

You need to find systems such that these probabilities are a large as possible, without breaking the bank! My preference is for systems which operate near a "tipping point". That usually means I play some bet selection immediately after it has suffered a catastrophic loss, but only for a strictly limited number of spins.

Then the probability of failure of any of them is (1-P_a), (1-P_b), (1-P_c)...  So these probabilities will be very small, assuming P_a etc are large.

In any session, play the systems a, b, c...  not in any fixed order or sequence, but as and when they are "appropriate" (experience helps here).

Then, your probability of failure will be (1-P_a)*(1-P_b)*(1-P_c)...

Which, if you have put in the hours of research and preparation, will be a very small number indeed. 

Note that I'm not saying that this is a formula for the holy grail. Any combination of negative expectation bets has a negative expectation. There's no avoiding the house edge. Nevertheless this needn't be the overriding principle. I just wanted to try to express my strategy (which is also the strategy of any consistent winner) in terms of basic probability, so that no-one thinks there's some quackery at the heart of it. 

There are other principles that are important too. Among them being; keep the number of bets as low as possible, always play the lowest edge game in the house, and don't chase losses! (a mild positive progression is ok though). Just common sense really. 

Also,

Keep learning - don't get complacent. 

One final point, if you're using physics based methods (or playing biased wheels) none of the above applies. It's a whole different ball-game. 

[Tangram]

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