This is very nice especially when you are waiting for crossing playing G.U.T
It is by a late friend of mine called Ossy1722
Make a List of the numbers 0-36
when a number is hit mark it with a "x"
e.g. you come to this point
...
20 x
21
22 x
.....
21 is the gap
from now on you bet 21 until it hits
if another gap appears bet it as well
stopp if your in a Plus and restart.
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winkel
Winkel, how many gaps come before we win the bet? Do you bet it for 36 spins and that abandon it if no hit? The gap can be only one number gap as I understand it? e.g. 12...14, 34...36, 28...30 and so on? The list of numbers will be 1,2,3,4,5,6 and so on, not like the lay off roulette wheel e.g. 0,2,14,35,23,4 and so on?
Thanks for clarification
Hermes
This is almost like Victor's Space Repetition theory. You are expecting the neighbor of two numbers to complete the 3some.
Quote from: hermes on September 24, 2008, 11:28:10 PM
Winkel, how many gaps come before we win the bet? Do you bet it for 36 spins and that abandon it if no hit? The gap can be only one number gap as I understand it? e.g. 12...14, 34...36, 28...30 and so on? The list of numbers will be 1,2,3,4,5,6 and so on, not like the lay off roulette wheel e.g. 0,2,14,35,23,4 and so on?
Thanks for clarification
Hermes
Don´t know how many gaps may appear. Doesn´t matter every gap is watched and progressed separately.
If you like, you can try a gap of two as well.
It doesnt matter if you use the aritmetical or the wheel-order
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winkel
Winkel,
I have played a system in which you had to record at least 25 spins with an ''x''. A gap like this would appear
1 x
2 x
3 x
4 x
5 xx
6 x
7
8
9 x
10
11
12 x
13 xx
14 x
etc. etc
Now you see a big gap at the block 7-8-10-11. That you start playing that block with a progression. While testing I had a block that slept for 60 spins.
I don't know if this has anythink to do with your gap. If it has maybe it can help. This is the system nolinks://vlsroulette.com/full-systems/partial-thanks-to-victor-gave-me-input/ (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/full-systems/partial-thanks-to-victor-gave-me-input/)
Gr. Jur
OK, I've read that thread a dozen times and still don't get it. Let's break it down. I'm in red.
I use a progression for TWO splits. 1-30, $2,190 if I lose.......could anyone explain that?
Betting on an unhit quad (2 splits). Keep track of all numbers hit, including zeros.......does that mean two separate splits or must they be a real quad?
STEP 1) Wait till you have an unhit quad/corner for 25 spins MINIMUM. .........and that.
STEP 2) While still jotting down numbers, *WAIT* until that quad hits.........does this mean after the sleeper is identified, we wait until it hits?
STEP 3) Start LONG progression on that quad. .......do we start a progression on a quad of four or two splits? One progression or two?
Ken?
Quote from: JHM on September 25, 2008, 01:48:56 PM
Winkel,
I have played a system in which you had to record at least 25 spins with an ''x''. A gap like this would appear
If you wait 25 spins you pick all the long-term-sleepers.
but if you atart at once your chance to close the gaps is very high!
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winkel
Ok Sam let's see if I can help you for a change instead of you ALWAYS helping me ;)
Your questions are below (I couldn't work out how to break the quote up :-[)
& BTW, Ken I hope you don't mind....
I use a progression for TWO splits. 1-30, $2,190 if I lose.......could anyone explain that?
yes the progression I used was for 35 spins & is as follows :-
1 1
2 1
3 1
4 1
5 1
6 1
7 2
8 2
9 2
10 2
11 3
12 3
13 3
14 4
15 4
16 5
17 5
18 6
19 7
20 8
21 9
22 10
23 11
24 12
25 14
26 16
27 18
28 20
29 22
30 25
31 28
32 32
33 36
34 40
35 45
1st column is spin number & 2nd column is units to bet on each number.
Betting on an unhit quad (2 splits). Keep track of all numbers hit, including zeros.......does that mean two separate splits or must they be a real quad?
I bet on ANY two splits that where "connected"
e.g. 1/2/4/5 or 1/4/7/10 or 1/2/5/6 or 2/5/6/9 see what I mean???
STEP 1) Wait till you have an unhit quad/corner for 25 spins MINIMUM. .........and that.
So you track for 25 spins and note which connected splits haven't hit
STEP 2) While still jotting down numbers, *WAIT* until that quad hits.........does this mean after the sleeper is identified, we wait until it hits?
So after 25 spins 33/34/35/36 is unhit on spin 26 number 36 hits..... Now you start betting the 33/34/35/36 quad
STEP 3) Start LONG progression on that quad. .......do we start a progression on a quad of four or two splits? One progression or two?
One progression covering the 4 unhit numbers......
When I tested this it WILL lose :-[ you just need a few bankrolls to ride it out......
Profits were good though..... :o
Any more questions Sam please type away, least I can do...... 8)
X
Thanks!
Much of what a person says gets lost because of the words.
I'm better now!
Sam
If there is any base I haven't covered just let me know..... ;)
winkel,
did you test this with your investigation of many spins.
i assume you recommend flat bet only?
i also assume that the gaps have to close and so you are betting on event that must happen?
it is the idea of a late friend of mine. I didn´t test it at all. I just like it.
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winkel
i will investigate it a bit.
A typical anomoly is that you can play a large % of sleepers as splits. There is often a row that sleeps or a square.
so it would make sense that there would be a way to profit from this. I am guessing we will get killed though if there are 20 even numbers in a row :-).
okay - having looked into this a bit i think the answer is that with a small progression this will win.
when i say small progression - i mean use the solitude theory. so bet 1u up to -35. normally you win before this point. bet 2u up to -72 and so on. it isnt overly hard to make this work to get a profit in my opinion.
more testing required.
the alternative is to play flat bet and on -35 call it a day. that may also work.
What about betting there will be a gap, if say number 10 is spun bet 8 & 12 and so on with any new numbers till one of the numbers bet on hits.
Tried it on roulette Xtreme and seems to go to over 100 u's pretty quick!
F
Thanks for sharing this. Have had good results so far using this system. Is really economical on the bankroll. Mostly only ever have to flatbet. Occasionally use a progression but it never goes that high.
I really like it - cheers.
If you wanna work with a progression, the original sheet says:
bet until a Plus
if you win, but there is no Plus ad 1 unit to all remaining gaps until you get a Plus.
restart collecting gaps after a Plus
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winkel