Kingspins "Lucky Horse shoes" great winners.

[birdhands]

it's my only option.

[jonathus]

made a hundred bucks in 10 minutes today by simply following the classic red horse progression. . .  definitely don't wanna jinx this bad puppy. . .

[Kingspin]

This is another bet I was trying out today , follow same progression and method as red horse shoe but these are different bets.  Players can experiment with progressions if need be .
I like this progression for this bet1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 3 4 4 4 4 5 5 5 5 6 6 6 6 7 7 7 7 8 8 8 8 9 9 9 9 10 1 0 10 1 0
I have been winning more with this bet than any other bet so far. I see very long winning sessions.
1 chip on DS 1-6
1 chip on DS 16 -21
1 chip on DS 28 -33
1 chip on split 9- 12
1 chip on split 10-13
1 chip on split 17 -20
1 chip on split  21 -24
1 chip o split 25 -28
1 chip on split 29 -32
1 chip on 0.
On a ds hit with a  loss s then hold the bet level don't move up or down the progression this works better.
This bet is called roulette genie.  On any bet that is not a profit move forward 1 step exept for the ds of course where you hold the bet level ,on a  new profit reset to start of progression. On a game always walk away with profit.

[birdhands]

Still winning real money on the classic horse shoe, 22 sessions to be exact.  I wonder if the progression might benefit from a subtle tweak, but otherwise it's great.  I'm also considering switching from the 0 to the 32 after 0 hits, or even making the one number chip moveable depending on what's trending, sleeping, etc.
Kingspin, I like the way you think, and your genie is cool, but the -4 loss on dbl streets makes me nervous.  How's it playing?

PS I have lost some money, but not playing the horse shoe.  I generally lose only when my discipline lapses and I get greedy and/or desperate.

Good luck everybody,

Sam

[Kingspin]

You don't need to be nervous about the roulette genie bet , I have found it to be for the most part a nice system to play birdhands

The genie for me is a better bet than the horse shoe because wins will come faster which makes for enjoyable play.

My first session at dublin bet on the real wheel I made £100 playing with 50p chips and won this with without hardly any progression at all. I have won 12 sessions so far finished all in profit.  Not saying some games depend on the progression to win as they some times do, usually I have not gone far past the 3s on the progression to recoup any  drawdowns.
1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 3 4 4 4 4 5 5 5 5 6 6 6 6 7 7 7 7 = RECOMMENDED MAX LIMIT 7'S ON PROGRESSION.
My opinion is that the genie for me is a better more enjoyable bet set.

Also the win streaks at times have been amazing!.

I will be playing it at joyland plus some others next week.  

[Kingspin]

The 4 loss on the double streets can be absorbed pretty easily because once the splits or 0 start to hit a few times you see often a push back near profit, profit, or break even.  I play with 25 pence chips and a £200 bankroll which should suffice mostly. 50p chips and a £400 bank minimum should be ok. Trying to win with say a £50 bankroll on 25p chips is possible but you must quit earlier with much smaller profit to avoid progressive games when they come.
Small bankrolls for the most part are a waste of time as you win less.

Win target = 25p chips = £20 - £25
Win target = 50p chips = £40 - £50.
Remember the longer you push you luck the bigger the bankroll you will need.

[birdhands]

With my $1 minimum I don't think I've got the BR to play the genie; but I'm sure glad you're winning.

[Twister43]

The 4 loss on the double streets can be absorbed pretty easily because once the splits or 0 start to hit a few times you see often a push back near profit, profit, or break even.  I play with 25 pence chips and a £200 bankroll which should suffice mostly. 50p chips and a £400 bank minimum should be ok. Trying to win with say a £50 bankroll on 25p chips is possible but you must quit earlier with much smaller profit to avoid progressive games when they come.
Small bankrolls for the most part are a waste of time as you win less.

Win target = 25p chips = £20 - £25
Win target = 50p chips = £40 - £50.
Remember the longer you push you luck the bigger the bankroll you will need.

On practice mode the genie is working well  as for the small BR I'll be starting off with £70 when after xmas with 10p unit bets things go right and I hit £200 I'll start with 25p but there is no harm slowly building you bank roll in fact I'd rather loose the £70 (part bonus) finding out something doesn't work rather than £200!

[foreverBOB]

Seems like this horse shoe method is working out well, and I was wondering how to implement a good horse shoe method for American wheel.
I guess we would be putting 2units on split zeros, but then it goes -1unit instead of breakaven lots of times.
I have no European wheels out here, the only European wheels are rng computer wheels.


warm regards,
Bob

[Twister43]

Seems like this horse shoe method is working out well, and I was wondering how to implement a good horse shoe method for American wheel.
I guess we would be putting 2units on split zeros, but then it goes -1unit instead of breakaven lots of times.
I have no European wheels out here, the only European wheels are rng computer wheels.


warm regards,
Bob

what's the minimum you can go? if you using say $1 you could do 50cent on both zero's you would just have to accept it would take longer to recoup.

[birdhands]

Bob,
    Here's what I would do:

1 chip on  single street  1 -3
1 chip on  single street  7 - 9
1 chip on  single street  16 -18
1 chip on  single street   19 -21
1 chip on  single street  25 - 27
1 chip on single street  34- 36
1 chip on split 9 -12
1 chip on split 18 -21
1 chip on split 27- 30
1 chip on 0.
1 chip on 00.
OR 2 chips split 0/00.

This way you still make 1 unit on a street hit.

Sam

[Kingspin]

just did a 1 hour session with the genie on joyland  +100.

Another good run today i am now at + 300

[Twister43]

just did a 1 hour session with the genie on joyland  +100.

Another good run today I am now at + 300

Nice to hear kingspin, I'm testig this now more than the red horse shoe with good results 

[Kingspin]

The genie tends to loose generally when blacks are hitting hard, was up 470 today , just lost 60 because a long string of blacks hit.

[foreverBOB]

thanks for the american wheel approach,

testing it


Bob

[foreverBOB]

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