the lazy man roulette system

[enrique malou]

Today in my spare time I looking at few old betting systems in my roulette books. One of them look better than the rest and so I say to myself I will risk a 100 to try win 100 on nolinks.dublinbet.com. anyway cut a long story down I win my 100 very easy. It was fun and give my brain rest today. last few days have being busy.
What I call lazy man system is really called Oscar Grind System.
Here are rules for Oscar Grind.

Oscar's Grind may be the ultimate in maximizing the number of small wins in relation to the large losses. The originator, only known as Oscar was a craps player who told reporters he gambled a lot and had never had a losing trip. This is not inconceivable. According to Tom Ainsley (and much of this discussion has come from Mr. Ainslie's "How to Gamble in a Casino") Julian Braun's computer studies showed the prababilites a house limit when the limit was 500 times the smallest allowable bet would only be once in 4,250 sessions.
Rule 1: The goal is to win one unit at the end of each progression and, whatever larger bet might be dictated by the other betting rules, will be dropped to a bet just large enough to gain one unit. This rule overrides.

Rule 2: Bet 1 is one unit.

Rule 3: If Bet 1 is lost, Bet 2 is one unit.

Rule 4. After a loss, the bet is the same as the bet just lost.

Rule 5 After a win, the bet is one more than the bet just won.

Example: First four bets are lost, player is down 4.
Next Bet (1 because it is the same as the bet just lost, Rule 4) won.
Next bet 2, Rule 5. Player down 3. Lose. Player down 5.
Next bet 2, Rule 4. Win. Player down 3.
Next bet 3, Rule 5. Win. Player even.
Next bet 1, Rule 1 overiding Rule 5 which would say bet 4.

So here is how my game went. I using a bet selection called DBL. That is DECISION BEFORE LAST.

1.10 RED. 4 BLACK - 10
2.10 RED. 31 BLACK - 20
3.10 BLACK. 31 BLACK -10
4.20 BLACK. 17 BLACK +10
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1.10 BLACK. 25 RED -10
2.10 BLACK. 11 BLACK 0
3.10 RED. 16 RED +10 (+20)
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1.10 BLACK. 34 RED -10
2.10 RED. 4 BLACK -20
3.10 RED. 21 RED -10
4.20 BLACK 2 BLACK +10 (+30)
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1.10 RED. 35 BLACK -10
2.10 BLACK. 13 BLACK 0
3.10 BLACK. 5 RED -10
4.10 BLACK. 29 BLACK 0
5.10 RED. 11 BLACK -10
6.10 BLACK. 25 RED -20
7.10 BLACK. 15 BLACK -10
8.20 RED. 30 RED +10 (+40)
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1.10 BLACK. 19 RED -10
2.10 RED. 11 BLACK -20
3.10 RED. 8 BLACK -30
4.10 BLACK. 9 RED -40
5.10 BLACK. 34 RED -50
6.10 RED. 11 BLACK -60
7.10 RED. 36 RED -50
8.20 BLACK. 17 BLACK -30
9.30 RED. 13 BLACK -60
10.30 BLACK. 20 BLACK -30
11.40 BLACK. 31 BLACK +10 (+50)
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1.10 BLACK. 33 BLACK +10 (+60)
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1.10 BLACK. 17 BLACK +10 (+70)
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1.10 BLACK. 5 RED -10
2.10 BLACK. 20 BLACK 0
3.10 RED. 21 RED +10 (+80)
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1.10 BLACK. 21 RED -10
2.10 RED. 33 BLACK -20
3.10 RED. 32 RED -10
4.20 BLACK. 6 BLACK +10 (+90)
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1.10 RED. 30 RED +10 (+100)
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It was fun. In 40 spin I win 100. I thinking that if you have limit to lose and win that this can be fun bet if you just go to casino for entertainment. It lot safer than crazy style progressions and seem to be good grinding system. I check on internet and search many gambling forum to see what people saying about Oscar Grind and compared to lot of system it not really got talked about much. that could be GOOD sign because it mean people are out in casino playing it and still got money in pocket where other who talk about other systems are always on internet because they lost money playing martingale or hot number or cold number or whatever. haha. Just my theory. And few people who did talk about it on internet. more people say good about it rather than bad. So if you looking for lazy system for fun bet and just want entertainment in casino then get grinding. Thank you Oscar. I think he dead now. I raise my glass to you oscar and thank you for my winning tonight. If I lose next time. no hard feeling. haha.

[VLSroulette]

Enrique,

Thanks for the reminder about our good ol' friend "Oscar". Being a patience player myself, I like it has the "grind"

[ChickenDinner]

Cheers Enrique.  A sweet little progression system. I too managed to make 100 units with ease (and, lucky enough, no draw downs) - achieved in less than 5 minutes on Coral bet (coral's quick spin option is great for speed betting).

I've have no doubt, of course, that this method will fall over in the long term, but like you said, a very entertaining and no-brainer way to spend your time at the casino. I also raise my glass to Oscar  .

CD

[enrique malou]

Well done. you can upgrade from the chicken to steak with that lovely dessert to follow. 
I like it as a quick fun way to play. As long  as you sensible with stop loss and even win goal. then it is ok.
Going by what 70's gambling guru Julian Braun saying (who do lot of research into 21) it can go long time without getting nasty. I think me and you should set up "oscar" fan club.
well done mate.

[enrique malou]

I try a few more runs and here is what happen in one of them.

5 red.
9 red.
1.10 red. 15 black -10.
2.10 red. 34 red 0.
3.10 black. 16 red -10.
4.10 red. 6 black -20.
5.10 red. 4 black -30.
6.10 black. 13 black -20.
7.20 black. 12 red -40.
8.20 black. 32 red -60.
9.20 red. 35 black -80.
10.20 red. 23 red -60.
11.30 black. 12 red -90.
12.30 red. 6 black -120.
13.30 red. 9 red -90.
14.40 black. 33 black -50.
15.50 red. 23 red 0.
16.10 black. 14 red -10.
17.10 red. 17 black -20.
18.10 red. 36 red -10.
19.20 black. 28 black +10.

I have few very good ideas which can really improve this a lot. I spend some time working it and then show you all ideas.

[ChickenDinner]

Hi Enrique,

I look forward to hearing your ideas buddy.

No disrespect to Julian Braun, but surely the house edge would win eventually with this progression?

As for me, I'm spending all my spare time testing/tweaking the ATILA system at the moment, and this seems to be working pretty well. However, I've got a lot more work to do yet before I start parting with any serious cash.

Cheers

CD

[ChickenDinner]

Strike a f***ing light! On second thoughts mate, I've just had what seems to be a great idea that involves linking the Oscar grind progression & a 6 number Atila-Victor-like methodology. It'll take me a few days to test out (and might even be complete rubbish); but, for what it's worth, I've got a good feeling about this and I'll keep ya posted.

[ChickenDinner]

Yep - the more I think about the Oscar Grind, the more I like it - you might be right about setting up a fan club afterall!

CD (soon to be SD )

[enrique malou]

Hello CD (soon to be SD  )
One thing normally lead to another when you looking at systems. It bring out good creativity. Looking forward to hearing your new discovery. I played Oscar a few times online for some small wins and it work well. HOWEVER  I do some testing with some old live roulette numbers I got and just when I got to the end of one card I was down $430. The next bet was over $100.  so well it seem to produce lot of wins. like all negative progressions there is always a sucker punch waiting to get you. ok you put in limit and like but because you only ever winning 1 unit then it could be hard going. Maybe with your new idea there is an ideal stop at a loss which make it more playable.  good luck. Enrique.

[ChickenDinner]

Enrique,

Well - just a quick update on my Oscar/Atila/Victor system that I've been testing recently - It's still looking pretty good!

I've played 30 online sessions (about 1800 spins or so) and have won 26 of them. I'm using a starting bank of £500 with a 10% (£50) profit target & a strict 50% (£250) stop loss. So far I'm up £498 (and I've just lost the 4th session).

I'm still thinking of tweaking a bit, so I won't bother going into the details how I'm playing it yet...obviously a lot more testing is needed, but I'm so far finding Oscar's Grind a really good way of minimising bets when a cycle is not occurring and maximising when a cycle is occuring. It really seems to serve the system very well.

Anyway, I'll keep testing and post again when I've got more results.

CD (not quite SD yet, but still feeling confident)

[mistarlupo]

ChickenDinner,

Hello, buddy!
You still doing some tweaking on this system?
I'm trying to make some improvements on it as well, but nothing interesting for now.
Maybe I could help you with some testing.

Good luck!

EDIT: TwoCatSam,
Cheers, mate! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

[TwoCatSam]

mistarlupo

Welcome to the forum.  Post!  Express!  Have fun!

TwoCatSam

[Toothpaste]

Hello mates, I used Oscar's on rng Blackjack long time ago.
Did you try reducing bets size so it is always +1? Like, if your next bet is 10 units, but you need only 5 to end up +1, you would bet 5 instead of 10 to cut your losses incase they occur. Altho, I feel CD could be doing something similar.
It is a good system, but it can have ups and downs. I played it alot on rng and it is my fav along with Atila and D'Alembert.
Just my two cents...

Cheers, TP

[enrique malou]

Hello CD and Toothpaste. Sorry I not reply quicker. I seem to be having running war over on other forum at moment. haha. glad results are positive and you are experimenting with it. I think it is good to take 2/3 stable system and play about with them and see what you come up with.
you will get to be SD in the long run mate. Enrique.

[hermes]

Enrique, I tested your system The Winning Edge and the results are not good at all. It reminds me on the Benson's system Ying / Yang for ECs but his system is complete non-sense.
What is going about Oscar I like the progression. The second progression would be Fibonacci. The DBL is the problem, it doesn't work always like we want. It should be combined with the Last Spin Decision (LSD). We live in duality world and the DBL & LSD are the poles of the duality. We have to use them both to reach the equilibrium. Otherwise we have only 50% of the system.
Hermes

[hermes]

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