Whats The Math of Short Term Probability?

[winkel]

Winkel,

Nobody is going to take you seriously with that attitude problem of yours.

Who takes YOU seriously?

You are just blowing hot air. I bet you never ever played roulette, you are just in forums to pet your EGO

[Herb6]

I already know what the result will be, and testing is incredibly boring.  Let me think about it.

[Spike!]

Kelly said: >>Trend starters and stoppers are a 50/50 game minus the house edge.>>

All trends, series, patterns, everything in the EC's is a 50/50 game. For every event, there is exactly an equal number of events that are the opposite of it. In the long run. In the short term, where we bet, anything can happen. And learning to anticipate whats coming next by studying whats come before is how the game is beat. Boring but true.

[winkel]

I already know what the result will be, and testing is incredibly boring.  Let me think about it.

confess: You are just afraid

[Spike!]

Nobody is going to take you seriously with that attitude problem of yours.>>>

This is the excuse Herb/Snowman uses to weasel out of everything. He doesn't like your attitude, or your language, or your humor, so he picks up his toys and goes home. He doesn't need to talk to you because he's so much smarter than everybody else, he's always the smartest person in the room. Just ask him.

[Spike!]

confess: You are just afraid>>>

You hit the nail on the head, Winkle. All the math people are terrified that something will come along and upset what they've been taught, upset their world view on math. Its a religion to them and they are the High Priests. They wil do anything to keep their jobs, and that includes running away.

[Kelly]

Winkel, if you wanna live performance, you gotta do it by yourself, i haven`t got that kind of time. If you can set up some kind of testing board where wiesbaden spins is being posted as they are being produced and you place your prediction a head of the next  number, then you could do 3 - 4 hours a day and in about a year you would have completed 50.000 placed bets.  Admit it, you haven`t done that before and as such don`t know how your system will react to such rigid expoxure. Until then, i will maintain that there are no proof that you have a winning system.  Add spike and gizmo in that basket too.  Im not afraid, actually i would be happy for you guys. I just don`t have 3 - 4 hours a day where i can sit and monitor someone else playing.

[Spike!]

 Add spike and gizmo in that basket too>>

You don't think I've placed 50K virtual bets? I went by that number a couple of years ago.

[winkel]

Until then, I will maintain that there are no proof that you have a winning system. 

Kelly,

isn´t that funny?

I offer to proof, you denie the challenge and say I don´t have anything!

As long as you or anybody else is refusing this test, you don´t have the right to say there is nothing.

You say there is no math-system - I agree
I say there is a logic strategie - You say: prove
I say: give me spins - herb says: he will cheat
I say: give me spin by spin - herb says you will need 50 000 spins
I say: give me 50000 - herb and kelly say: we have no time, it is boring

I´ve done everything to prove, you just don´t accept. It is your fault. so shut up with your saying: There is nothing, as lng as you didn´t prove it!

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winkel

[Nathan Detroit]

Kelly,

You are close ! It would  take nearly one year to be  exact  312.5 days.    You are even allowed  52.5 days for other activities .


N.D.

[Bayes]

You hit the nail on the head, Winkle. All the math people are terrified that something will come along and upset what they've been taught, upset their world view on math. Its a religion to them and they are the High Priests. They wil do anything to keep their jobs, and that includes running away.

You are absolutely wrong about this. I would love to see someone step up to the plate and provide some evidence that it's not all just hot air.  A good percentage of  posts on gambling forums are about getting the braggers to show some proof,  but to my knowledge it's never been done. It's impossible to demonstrate conclusively that a system is a long-term winner, because the die-hard sceptics will always demand longer tests, but some  strong statistical evidence can be shown with a fairly small number of spins.  It's not necessary to test over 50,000 spins or anything like that number.

I have some sympathy with Winkel's comments. It's a pity there isn't some software which could grab spins from the wiesbaden wheels and make sure that you bet before the next outcome.

[winkel]

I have some sympathy with Winkel's comments. It's a pity there isn't some software which could grab spins from the wiesbaden wheels and make sure that you bet before the next outcome.

Just go random.org and pump down million of spins. Pass it to someone. And give me spin by spin. Thats it.

OR

just search for any 20-spin-section without "no" pattern in it. Give me these sequences spin by spin and I will win.
(BTW: you won´t find any)

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winkel

[bene126]

Hi Winkel.I can give you some spins if you want.

[winkel]

Hi Winkel.I can give you some spins if you want.

I´ll be back in three hours. If you have time we can start then.

My first bet 1 unit on Red

Bankroll: 6764 units


just open a new thread in Testarea

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winkel

[I have cookies]

Hello is there any rules regarding the test - is it about even money or numbers ?

My impression is but i might got it all wrong - that it is about flat betting and even money bets.

Then there is no need to post about 6000 or any other number being an bankroll.

Baiscs are simpel things.

1) You have to flat betting and gain at least +1 and that does overcome the attempts you apply to gain at least +1.

Feel free to use any tendency in the world - good luck ...

Cheers

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