This is more of an observation than anything else, but I thought I would throw it out there and see if anyone could make use of it. I've noticed a phenomena when looking at a wheel frequency analysis in RX. It's something I call spokes. It's a fairly consistent phenomena, although it's not a science.
Over the course of a number of spins, if you look at the distribution on the wheel, you'll start to see nubs of a spokes, like on a bike tire forming. Sometimes they die, often times, they either are replaced by other nubs or continue to grow. Let me see if I can show you what I mean.
After 38 spins, you can start to see a few nubs forming on 29,23,28,15
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After 38 more, 29,23,28 continue to grow. 15 starts to dies out and 00 starts forming a new nub
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By spin 114, we see 29,23 and 00 continue to grow, while 28 loses momentum
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After spin 152, we have 29,23 and 00 that have developed almost full spokes.
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So, if you would have started betting on 29,23 and 00 early on, when you could start to see spoke nubs forming, you could have proportionally a substantial number of hits. Like I said, it's not a science, but very often you can start to tell what number will ultimately form spokes. They also tend to be distributed around the wheel.
Here's another example, where you can see the mostly developed spokes.
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Not sure of this is worth pursing, but I find it interesting, so I thought I would share. Maybe someone could build something around it.
mate just thougt it is possible make on this software the same but with numbered that dots where the ball lands??? im trying littlebit learn about wheel patterns and this remainds me thatt can be usefull thank you
Here's a practical example:
After 75 spins, I have some solid spokes forming on 3,32,7. I like selecting 3 prominent nubs, as it seems to work. I look for spokes forming at angles around the wheel.
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I flat bet them, $5 each, until spin 102
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All 3 formed mostly full spokes and I'm up $210. I try to stop after profit or if one my my numbers forms a full spoke. If you wait too long, the rest of the wheel starts catching up with the spokes.
Thanks for sharing your observations with us Iceboy.
There are players who like to play "the numbers of tonight", based on this. Each day a different set.
As a progression, the +1 chip on a win is liked for this kind of game.
Regards.
You really dont need the wheel diagram to show this, it can be seen if you used a layout instead. Basically what you are interested in is betting on numbers with the most hits and assuming it'll continue with those numbers. I also do something similar, I'll post it, I dont want to ruin your thread. Thanks for posting sir! Ken
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You really dont need the wheel diagram to show this, it can be seen if you used a layout instead. Basically what you are interested in is betting on numbers with the most hits and assuming it'll continue with those numbers. I also do something similar, I'll post it, I dont want to ruin your thread. Thanks for posting sir! Ken
The concept is a little more than just betting prevalent numbers. It's the anticipation of those numbers. The whole idea of the "spokes" is abstract, but you can often times tell which numbers will be prevalent by observing the spokes forming early on, using the wheel diagram. They often form around specific angles, helping anticipate the numbers to bet. I've found if you just bet the numbers with the most hits, you are often one step behind. My idea is to use the spoke concept to anticipate those numbers before they become overly dominate.
I kind of understand. Can you be a hair more specific? Ken
I can best explain by showing wheels as example. I hope they help.
Let's start out with looking at a wheel after 50 spins.
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When I look at this, I start to see something developing. I see 29,17,35 forming the beginning of spokes, at an angle like a peace sign. I would also look at 28. They all have 3 hits so far, but I also look at angles.
Now we look after 100 spins:
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IN 50 additional spins, #29 has now gone from 3 to 4 hits
#17 has gone from 3 to 7 hits
#35 has gone from 3 to 5 hits
#2 has really taken off as a spoke, but we didn't anticipate that early on.
If we would have bet on numbers 29, 17 and 35 up to this point, we would have had 10 hits in 50 spins. We'd probably be at profit here and could stop.
Now, here we are at after 150 spins:
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This shows how we have some fairly well balanced spokes on numbers 19,2,17 and 24. Back on spin 50, we only identified #17 out of these 4 as a potential spoke, but along the way we did ok with the ones we did pick. The other numbers we were looking at (29,35 and maybe 28) formed lesser spokes, but still picked up a relatively large number of hits.
I don't know if that helps clear things up or not. Like I said, this is not a system, its an observation. Dominant numbers do tend to form around the wheel and they tend to be at angles that tend to form early on. It's not a science or an absolute, but I thought there was enough to warrant further exploration. This is an effort to anticipate dominant numbers, not chase them.