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Some idea based on dalembert

Started by pablos, July 27, 2010, 10:53:50 AM

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pablos

I have some idea for the system.      I tried it before but with different results.      (sorry for my english).      I like to play dalembert because it is quite easy and progression is quite flat.      As you probably know in dalembert we add one chip when we lose and substract one when we win but in dalembert we dont have to go back to one chip stake to win.      The best thing about dalembert is that it need less then 48% of some event on long term to be in plus overall I mean less than is a probability of some event in long run for example red  which is 18/37 but what is the idea ?

We need some program which shows us percentage of every event which are red, black, even, odd, high, low for example roulette master or any other.      We make a free spins for some time for example 30-40 spins.      Then we choose three different events which have lowest percentage for example red, low and even and we start to play dalembert on each of them separately.      When we are in plus on some event which dont have to be when stake come back to 1 chip if it went higher because we are in plus earlier then we check if that event has lower percentage than opposite.      For example when we were playing red we are in plus and if the red has still lower percentage than balck than we still play red from 1 chip stake and if the lower percentage changed for black than after being in plus on red we switch red for black and start playing black and we do this with every event we play.      We always play event of lower percentage and we play dalembert of three different event in the same time.     

I used it but with different results.      What is good about this idea ?

1.      Each event has probability equal 18/37 in long term.      Dalembert needs lower percentage to be in plus.     
2.      We play event which has lower percentage so it is more perhaps that percentage go up than down.     
3, We play three events in the same time so it is less perhaps that three events percventage go down in the same time than it would be for one event.     

What is bad about this idea ?

Sometimes stake in dalembert go high and then stay there for some time for example when series of opposite event comes and after that events come alternate.      This is dangerous for our bankroll but sometimes it happen that is why I suggest to reset stake to one chip whenever we are in plus in some event.      For example stake went from 1 to 10 then go back to 4 we are in plus so we reset stake to 1 and play from start.     

How to find out when we are in plus on dalembert.      You can use some pencil and paper or some program or website which count it.   

Some more info:

I play only live roulette
I use at least 1000 chips bankroll

When you dont want to count every event separately when it is in plus you can reset all three events to 1 chip when you are for example 15-20 chips in plus overall.    I played this way for some time.   I would rather stick with 15 than 20. 

pablos

I made some test today on RNG and results are not optimistic unfortunately.        Maybe the reason is that after ca.        350 spins percentage were very low as 41% - odd, 43% -red,  48%- low.        The overall loss was over 2000 chips.        I used some website which count percentage and profit/loss but I saw today that it has some mistakes with counting so I don't know if the results are good and appointive but what is the conclusion.        It is low probability that three events in the same time go down with their percentage when we start to bet on them but it is possible, what is more even when 1 or 2 go up and we gain on them but one event go down with percentage then loss on that one event can eat our profit from two others.        That is why because we reset stake when we reach profit so our profits are quite small and when stake on one or two events go up to for example 10 or 15 then we lose our bankroll fast with every spin.        Now I try some other test but I have to do some more test with it.        Besides I don't like RNG maybe in live results will be better.        I think that maybe the solution is to do some stop loss point I don't know.       

What do you think about this system ?

Number Six

The percentages you refer to can remain uneven for many thousands of spins. It's the same for people who track the standard deviation of the events you're recording. On the ECs, half the time the percentage goes up and half the time it will be down again. What you should do is try to find a common low point, or average, of the percentage in the numbers you record and attempt to play from there. This will produce better results but unfortunately you'll probably find that the bet selection then becomes impractical given the huge amount of virtual tracking involved. When all is said and done, it's still an even money game.



pablos

Some guy on other forum figure out the system and he start betting when one event go down to for example 28-29% in last 25 spins.    Then he start to bet event using dalembert.    He plays RNG I play live so it would be very difficult to play this way.    He also play dozens, threes, sixes when they are not hit for x spins.    He has quite god results but I don't trust RNG I play live that is why I tried to find something else.    Now I try to play some dozens system but maybe I will go back to this in some time.    I like Black Pearl from this forum but I don't understand everything.    Maybe somebody could help me in the thread about Black Pearls where I post my questions.   

pablos

Today I figure out something else.      It is more flat betting mixed with previous method.      We play 3 events in the same time like for example odd, low, red but we take it not from percentage but we take last number and we check to which group it belongs.      For example last number was 5 red so it is low, red, odd.      In the next spin we bet three opposite events which are black, even, high.      If we have profit which is when we hit 2 or 3 from our bets than we check again last number which is another one and we do the same with new one.    We bet opposite group of events.     If we have loss which is when we lose on 2 or all 3 events than we didn't change the events and we start to play on them using dalembert (we add one chip after loss and substract one after win).      We play dalembert until we have overall profit.      Then we do whole operation again.      We reset stakes we check last number and bet opposite three events 1 chip on each.      I check it on RNG play money.      Result were quite good but I don't believe in honesty RNG play money roulette so I don't know.      Check yourself.   

The worst thing about dalembert is that when it go on high stakes then there is a risk of high losses with every spin.    Maybe it is a good idea to do some stopp loss like 10-15 chips or something like that.    What do you think ? I though also about few steps progression using martignale but I think that it is even worse and more dangerous.   

When we play dalembert we play on each event separately I mean adding and substracting chips after win and losses but we look at overall profit.   Then we reset stakes and bet new three events.  I think you know this I write it just in case to clarify this. 

pablos

I made some change to this method of playing. I think that it is good idea to reset stakes and start with new three events even if we are break even. Profit is the same but risk is less. I made some test on RNG today. It seems to work quite good but I think that stop loss is necessary because there can be always bad series which kills us. I need more test with stop loss. Anybody try this apart me ? :)

pablos

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