System to last out longest series

[pablos]

Hello

Recently I tried Black Pearl system for dozens from this forum.       I almost lost all my money when one dozen didn't show up through 21 spins so I thought about some system that could last out longest series without one dozen.       

Do you know what is the longest series without one dozen ? I thought about some simple system that could last out for example 25-30 spins without one dozen.       What do you think ? I play roulette live.       What are the longest series in live roulette what do you think ? Is that system possible ?

I think about maximum flat progression to have most possible numbers of steps in progression.       What are your opinions ?


I don't know what are the exact limit in my casino but I assume that I can bet at least number table limit x 12 numbers in the dozen which gives in my casino (William Hill) 1800 chips which give us 20 steps progression as below:

1) Bet: $ 1 on 1 spots.     Profit on a Win: $ 2 Bankroll Needed: $1
2) Bet: $ 1 on 1 spots.     Profit on a Win: $ 1 Bankroll Needed: $2
3) Bet: $ 2 on 1 spots.     Profit on a Win: $ 2 Bankroll Needed: $4
4) Bet: $ 3 on 1 spots.     Profit on a Win: $ 2 Bankroll Needed: $7
5) Bet: $ 4 on 1 spots.     Profit on a Win: $ 1 Bankroll Needed: $11
6) Bet: $ 6 on 1 spots.     Profit on a Win: $ 1 Bankroll Needed: $17
7) Bet: $ 9 on 1 spots.     Profit on a Win: $ 1 Bankroll Needed: $26
Bet: $ 14 on 1 spots.     Profit on a Win: $ 2 Bankroll Needed: $40
9) Bet: $ 21 on 1 spots.     Profit on a Win: $ 2 Bankroll Needed: $61
10) Bet: $ 31 on 1 spots.     Profit on a Win: $ 1 Bankroll Needed: $92
11) Bet: $ 47 on 1 spots.     Profit on a Win: $ 2 Bankroll Needed: $139
12) Bet: $ 70 on 1 spots.     Profit on a Win: $ 1 Bankroll Needed: $209
13) Bet: $ 105 on 1 spots.     Profit on a Win: $ 1 Bankroll Needed: $314
14) Bet: $ 158 on 1 spots.     Profit on a Win: $ 2 Bankroll Needed: $472
15) Bet: $ 237 on 1 spots.     Profit on a Win: $ 2 Bankroll Needed: $709
16) Bet: $ 355 on 1 spots.     Profit on a Win: $ 1 Bankroll Needed: $1064
17) Bet: $ 533 on 1 spots.     Profit on a Win: $ 2 Bankroll Needed: $1597
18) Bet: $ 799 on 1 spots.     Profit on a Win: $ 1 Bankroll Needed: $2396
19) Bet: $ 1199 on 1 spots.     Profit on a Win: $ 2 Bankroll Needed: $3595
20) Bet: $ 1798 on 1 spots.     Profit on a Win: $ 1 Bankroll Needed: $5393

Before betting we can wait for example 8 spins without one dozen what give us 28 spin series.     Did anyone see longer series in live roulette ?

What do you think about this idea ? It is obvious that when longer series come we lose all our money.     The main question is what is longest series ever seen in live roulette ?

I found some website with longest series in roulette but RNG after 1 000 000 spins.    This is what it says about dozens:

Dozen bet (betting on 12 numbers at once)
payout is 2 to 1
odds of winning are 1 in 3.   08
(European Table Single 0)
and 1 in 3.   16
(American Table Double 0)

Most spins without a showing :
35 spins (1 dozen did this)

Longest repeating dozen :
13 spins (1 dozen did this)

It says that one dozen didn't show up through 35 spins.    In our progression we would have to wait 15 spins without one dozen to last out such a series with 20 steps progression.    In live roulette it would be long time waiting.   

This is the address of the website ( I don't know if I can post it):

hxxp: turbogenius.   webs.   com/whatsthelongest.   htm

For columns longest series was 37 spins without one column so we should even assume that for dozens it could happen as well.   

Maybe it would be easier to make system to last out longest series of one DZ/CL in a row.    Website says it is 12-13 CL/DZ in the row but we need information about series of one dozen or one dozen and 0 in the row.    I don't know if this data reflect 0.   

We could beat table limits like it is said in tis thread:

hxxp: vlsroulette. com/live-roulette-casinos/faking-minimum-and-maximum-bets-plus-spread/

I mean betting numbers, splits, streets and dozen in the same time so I think it could give us 1 or 2 more steps in the progression maybe more.

Betting two dozen in the same time would require progression like this:

1) Bet: $ 1 on 2 spots.  Profit on a Win: $ 1 Bankroll Needed: $2
2) Bet: $ 3 on 2 spots.  Profit on a Win: $ 1 Bankroll Needed: $8
3) Bet: $ 9 on 2 spots.  Profit on a Win: $ 1 Bankroll Needed: $26
4) Bet: $ 27 on 2 spots.  Profit on a Win: $ 1 Bankroll Needed: $80
5) Bet: $ 81 on 2 spots.  Profit on a Win: $ 1 Bankroll Needed: $242
6) Bet: $ 243 on 2 spots.  Profit on a Win: $ 1 Bankroll Needed: $728
7) Bet: $ 729 on 2 spots.  Profit on a Win: $ 1 Bankroll Needed: $2186
Bet: $ 2187 on 2 spots.  Profit on a Win: $ 1 Bankroll Needed: $6560

I think we could use 8 steps without any problems by beating limits.  In this case we should have wait 4-5 with one dozen in the row before start playing.  I think it is little closer than 15 without one dozen.  I dont know maybe I am wrong but I have that feeling after my observations.  But like i said I don't know if those data reflect 0 when saying about 12-13 CL/DZ in the row. 

After all we can play both ways depending which trigger to play shows first.  If you have any information about longer series on RNG or any longest series in live roulette please post it.   

[pablos]

Today I figure out something else. I think that always if we would play on one event this way than it would be long time to wait for the trigger so I thought. Why not to play for each possible event that occur using method posted above. All we need are stats like from that website about longest series in roulette. Than we need progression on each event we can bet like for example numbers, streets, splits, dozens etc. Than if we for example know that one number can sleep for instance 450 spins and progressions allow us for 200 spins so after 250 spins (400 - 250) we have trigger to start progression on that number. Somebody wrote that he built bot to play dozen after one dozen repeat 9 times but it last very long and he earns very little. I think it would be with every single event. If we would like to play safe progression than waiting for trigger would last very long but If we would play for every possible event using this method than triggers would show up more frequent. What do you think about it ?It isn't  quite new idea. I saw guy playing this way but only on some events and after x steps in progression without winning he stop betting more but here I think about playing on every possible event assuming that won't show up longer series that longest that we know about. I think that on RNG it would be easier to play this way what I don't like but I think that maybe it would be possible to play live roulette as well but we would need some stats from live roulette. What do you think ?

[pablos]

Today I checked maximum bets on dozens, numbers, streets, splits and lines allowed in William Hill. After adding it to each other maximum bet on dozen is 8700 chips. This give us 23 steps progression on one dozen as below:

1) Bet: $ 1 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 2 Bankroll Needed: $1
2) Bet: $ 1 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 1 Bankroll Needed: $2
3) Bet: $ 2 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 2 Bankroll Needed: $4
4) Bet: $ 3 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 2 Bankroll Needed: $7
5) Bet: $ 4 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 1 Bankroll Needed: $11
6) Bet: $ 6 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 1 Bankroll Needed: $17
7) Bet: $ 9 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 1 Bankroll Needed: $26
Bet: $ 14 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 2 Bankroll Needed: $40
9) Bet: $ 21 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 2 Bankroll Needed: $61
10) Bet: $ 31 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 1 Bankroll Needed: $92
11) Bet: $ 47 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 2 Bankroll Needed: $139
12) Bet: $ 70 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 1 Bankroll Needed: $209
13) Bet: $ 105 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 1 Bankroll Needed: $314
14) Bet: $ 158 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 2 Bankroll Needed: $472
15) Bet: $ 237 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 2 Bankroll Needed: $709
16) Bet: $ 355 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 1 Bankroll Needed: $1064
17) Bet: $ 533 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 2 Bankroll Needed: $1597
18) Bet: $ 799 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 1 Bankroll Needed: $2396
19) Bet: $ 1199 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 2 Bankroll Needed: $3595
20) Bet: $ 1798 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 1 Bankroll Needed: $5393
21) Bet: $ 2697 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 1 Bankroll Needed: $8090
22) Bet: $ 4046 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 2 Bankroll Needed: $12136
23) Bet: $ 6069 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 2 Bankroll Needed: $18205

As you can see maximum bankroll nedeed is rally huge. I looked also at stats from two lives casinos. In both cases if I checked good maximum spins without one dozen were 35 so we should bet after 12 spins without one dozen to last out such a series. Series with 12 spins without one dozen appears about 1 per 100 spins if I checked good so we would be playing about once per 100 spins. 

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