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Beaking a trend?

Started by JHM, October 10, 2008, 09:46:03 AM

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JHM

I'm very interested of playing to break a trend.

When you look at the Pole and you see a happening like:

B(newest)
R
B
R
B
R
B
B
R
R(oldest)

Now I would bet B to break the trend (maybe with a little progression?).

Does somebody have experience with this?



lucky_strike

What is a trend? Its anything you can imagine!

You could go for a dominant colour or you could go for chops or you could go for singels, the list is long.

So it has to be based upon something, variance and educated guesses is a part of you not the wheel, if you find a method that makes you succed, then you are an part of the wheel and you know what you are up against.

Experementing and explore different ways and pick the one that makes you happy.

Cheers LS

JHM

Lets say it is based on colours, like the example above. Yes it can also be applied on even-odd etc.

Lets take my post on colours for example.

lucky_strike

So what do we have do we have the previos spins?
Well if we dont have the privios spin or spins, then we could play with closed eyes and place a bet randomly because it would not matter what the previos spin or spins was!

If we would make an educated guess we would have to use at lest one previos spin or we would have to use the previos serie!

But what do you see and what I see is not the same thing, my previos spins was a serie not a red singel if it hade been BBR.
So do we use past spins, Yes we do, if we did not do so you could plaze all your bets with closed eyes.

So if I was forced to make a educated guess in this situation and forced to play I would base my educated guess on the previos serie and for me it doesent matter if it was RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
It would only be one serie not more or less...

It is a 50/50 situation, is that fun :)


Cheers LS

TwoCatSam

Jur

I developed a system which I used at Casino Web Cam and did very well.  I profited about 10 units per hour maximum.  Wait for any five unattached flops:


X.........x can only be zero or B.  If R, you have only four unattached flops.
R
B
R
B
R

I used a weird progression much like an Atilla or Deance and it always produced a profit over time; did not always win.  There are many flops;not just those.

Sam

JHM

Quote from: TwoCatSam on October 10, 2008, 10:22:25 AM
Jur

I developed a system which I used at Casino Web Cam and did very well.  I profited about 10 units per hour maximum.  Wait for any five unattached flops:


X.........x can only be zero or B.  If R, you have only four unattached flops.
R
B
R
B
R

I used a weird progression much like an Atilla or Deance and it always produced a profit over time; did not always win.  There are many flops;not just those.

Sam

Sorry Sam, but what is a flop / unattached flop? Can you give a example :)

I just don't get your post.

JHM

Quote from: lucky strike on October 10, 2008, 10:08:54 AM
So what do we have do we have the previos spins?
Well if we dont have the privios spin or spins, then we could play with closed eyes and place a bet randomly because it would not matter what the previos spin or spins was!

If we would make an educated guess we would have to use at lest one previos spin or we would have to use the previos serie!

But what do you see and what I see is not the same thing, my previos spins was a serie not a red singel if it hade been BBR.
So do we use past spins, Yes we do, if we did not do so you could plaze all your bets with closed eyes.

So if I was forced to make a educated guess in this situation and forced to play I would base my educated guess on the previos serie and for me it doesent matter if it was RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
It would only be one serie not more or less...

It is a 50/50 situation, is that fun :)


Cheers LS


I don't know if I get you wrong. But if I understand you right. It doesn't matter what or how you play. You see every bet on it's own and all trails are independant?

Than no system works  :)

TwoCatSam

Attached:

R
R
   B
R
   B
R...............Looking backward you have RBRBR, a sequence of five, but the trot starts with RR.  Red is "attached" to red.  Now look at this:

R
R
   B
R
   B
R
   B.......counting backward you have BRBRB, a sequence of five, but the B is alone at the top.  Another way of saying it:  It must switch from one EC to another and the then flop five times.

Sam

It's very easy to find on the real marquee.  I'll screen shot you a couple if you need them.











JHM

Quote from: TwoCatSam on October 10, 2008, 11:06:16 AM
Attached:

R
R
   B
R
   B
R...............Looking backward you have RBRBR, a sequence of five, but the trot starts with RR.  Red is "attached" to red.  Now look at this:

R
R
   B
R
   B
R
   B.......counting backward you have BRBRB, a sequence of five, but the B is alone at the top.  Another way of saying it:  It must switch from one EC to another and the then flop five times.

Sam

It's very easy to find on the real marquee.  I'll screen shot you a couple if you need them.












Makes more sense now Sam. We're getting there. Please tell me what EC means  :-[

TwoCatSam

Jur

EC is any even money prop......red/black and so on.  I think it means even chance.   I don't know who coined it.

Sam

JHM

Quote from: TwoCatSam on October 10, 2008, 11:51:25 AM
Jur

EC is any even money prop......red/black and so on.  I think it means even chance.   I don't know who coined it.

Sam

Thank you Sam.

Just played the situation:

R (bet 20 red to break trend, win +10)
R (bet 10 black to break trend, lose -10)
B
R
B
R
B
R
B
R
B
B

Today, + 30 3 win's. I'll keep testing this for a while breaking trend on colors.

JHM

Another play:

B (bet 20 on black to break trend, win +10)
B (bet 10 on red to break trend, loss -10)
R
B
B
R
B
B
R
B
B

lucky_strike

QuoteI don't know if I get you wrong. But if I understand you right. It doesn't matter what or how you play. You see every bet on it's own and all trails are independant?

Hi JHM I am not saying that.
My friend I am saying if you want to use anything, lets say you want to become a trend player, then it would be a great thing to explore different methods and find one thats makes you happy.


Happy winnings to all

Cheers LS



JHM

Quote from: lucky strike on October 10, 2008, 01:57:03 PM
QuoteI don't know if I get you wrong. But if I understand you right. It doesn't matter what or how you play. You see every bet on it's own and all trails are independant?

Hi JHM I am not saying that.
My friend I am saying if you want to use anything, lets say you want to become a trend player, then it would be a great thing to explore different methods and find one thats makes you happy.


Happy winnings to all

Cheers LS




Now I get you right. Thank you for your advice.

VLSroulette

Hello dear friends, this thread can be improved by the use of the forum's new [COLORS] tag:
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If you want, I can modify the threads to include this tag to see it in actual "action" :)

Please bear it in mind for further discussion, it truly helps to have colorized [colors]RBZ[/colors] output!

Regards,
Victor

VLSroulette

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