Best way of play to increase your BR with 1% per day?

[Wally Gator]

@Lanky

Your influence is one of the primary reasons I'm looking at the business aspect of this whole thing.  My thought was to take your 2.5% per session and knock 1/2 off (the super sale) making it even that much easier.

I believe that if we play strategically, and we know multiple systems and strategies, as well as ourselves and how we react to losses and recoveries (this is key), it would become very difficult not to make 1% of session bank.  But, as you and I have discussed numerous times, you gotta walk out or at least put the bank and the 1% in the other pocket with a combo you don't know.

I believe if you fail at this it has more to do with yourself and less with the way of play.  Let's face it, this is pretty much the case in all aspects of our lives, not just roulette.

I would venture to say that this 2-3 year plan will only be attainable by very few, unfortunately.  It will be more a discipline problem than anything else.  That said, I decided yesterday that I'm going to get going on it right away in an attempt to prove myself wrong.  So, my challenge is to myself.  If there are others who would like to join me I'd love to share thoughts as we progress.

As you and I have discussed, there are the doers of this world and then there is everyone else.  I'd rather be a doer and fail a million times than not have made the attempt.  At the end of our life, when we look back, what do we see?

[JHM]

Guys,

Thank you for the replies it's really appreciated. I'm definitive going to give this a try. But still have to test some strategies  . We already know days will come that we will have a losing streak. Maybe we should than quit playing, and return the next day and take the loss like a pro.

[mistarlupo]

Maybe we should than quit playing, and return the next day and take the loss like a pro.

That's cool... but what percent would be this loss?
If it is like 1-2%, okay... but it's more likely this % to be 50-100...

So in order to avoid big losses, you'll need flat betting only.
In this case you'll have too many losing sessions...

To sum up, what we need is:
- flat betting not too many units
- 80/90% winning rate (at least)

It sounds like mission impossible, but it's all gambling at all, gents!
Looking forward to hearing some ideas from you all.

Regards,
m

[JHM]

I totally agree with you on the flat betting. I have a book called ''Get the Edge at Roulette'' by Christopher Pawlicki. He bring several ways of play to order, like 'd Alembert, Martingale, Grand Martingale and more. He show's why Roulette mathematically can't be beat and how the progressions all fail in the end. He also says that the game can be beat with skill (Bias, DS, VB). If you don't play that way the best way to bet is flat bet on the EC's.

No I don't say he is right but he has a point. So what's the stop/loss limit?

[Wally Gator]

I started today.  Did 10 sessions for the 1st 10 days because I can't play the next 2 or 3 days.  Next session is day 11.

[table=,]

Day,,Bank,,Win needed
1,,100.00,,1.00
2,,101.00,,1.01
3,,102.01,,1.02
4,,103.03,,1.03
5,,104.06,,1.04
6,,105.10,,1.05
7,,106.15,,1.06
8,,107.21,,1.07
9,,108.29,,1.08
10,,109.37,,1.09
11,,110.46,,1.10
12,,111.57,,1.12
13,,112.68,,1.13
14,,113.81,,1.14
15,,114.95,,1.15
16,,116.10,,1.16
17,,117.26,,1.17
18,,118.43,,1.18
19,,119.61,,1.20
20,,120.81,,1.21
21,,122.02,,1.22
22,,123.24,,1.23
23,,124.47,,1.24
24,,125.72,,1.26
25,,126.97,,1.27
26,,128.24,,1.28
27,,129.53,,1.30
28,,130.82,,1.31
29,,132.13,,1.32
30,,133.45,,1.33
31,,134.78,,1.35
32,,136.13,,1.36
33,,137.49,,1.37
34,,138.87,,1.39
35,,140.26,,1.40
36,,141.66,,1.42
37,,143.08,,1.43
38,,144.51,,1.45
39,,145.95,,1.46
40,,147.41,,1.47
41,,148.89,,1.49
42,,150.38,,1.50
43,,151.88,,1.52
44,,153.40,,1.53
45,,154.93,,1.55
46,,156.48,,1.56
47,,158.05,,1.58
48,,159.63,,1.60
49,,161.22,,1.61
50,,162.83,,1.63
51,,164.46,,1.64
52,,166.11,,1.66
53,,167.77,,1.68
54,,169.45,,1.69
55,,171.14,,1.71
56,,172.85,,1.73
57,,174.58,,1.75
58,,176.33,,1.76
59,,178.09,,1.78
60,,179.87,,1.80
61,,181.67,,1.82
62,,183.49,,1.83
63,,185.32,,1.85
64,,187.17,,1.87
65,,189.05,,1.89
66,,190.94,,1.91
67,,192.85,,1.93
68,,194.77,,1.95
69,,196.72,,1.97
70,,198.69,,1.99
71,,200.68,,2.01
72,,202.68,,2.03
73,,204.71,,2.05
74,,206.76,,2.07
75,,208.82,,2.09
76,,210.91,,2.11
77,,213.02,,2.13
78,,215.15,,2.15
79,,217.30,,2.17
80,,219.48,,2.19
81,,221.67,,2.22
82,,223.89,,2.24
83,,226.13,,2.26
84,,228.39,,2.28
85,,230.67,,2.31
86,,232.98,,2.33
87,,235.31,,2.35
88,,237.66,,2.38
89,,240.04,,2.40
90,,242.44,,2.42
91,,244.86,,2.45
92,,247.31,,2.47
93,,249.79,,2.50
94,,252.28,,2.52
95,,254.81,,2.55
96,,257.35,,2.57
97,,259.93,,2.60
98,,262.53,,2.63
99,,265.15,,2.65
100,,267.80,,2.68
101,,270.48,,2.70
102,,273.19,,2.73
103,,275.92,,2.76
104,,278.68,,2.79
105,,281.46,,2.81
106,,284.28,,2.84
107,,287.12,,2.87
108,,289.99,,2.90
109,,292.89,,2.93
110,,295.82,,2.96
111,,298.78,,2.99
112,,301.77,,3.02
113,,304.79,,3.05
114,,307.83,,3.08
115,,310.91,,3.11
116,,314.02,,3.14
117,,317.16,,3.17
118,,320.33,,3.20
119,,323.54,,3.24
120,,326.77,,3.27
121,,330.04,,3.30
122,,333.34,,3.33
123,,336.67,,3.37
124,,340.04,,3.40
125,,343.44,,3.43
126,,346.87,,3.47
127,,350.34,,3.50
128,,353.85,,3.54
129,,357.38,,3.57
130,,360.96,,3.61
131,,364.57,,3.65
132,,368.21,,3.68
133,,371.90,,3.72
134,,375.61,,3.76
135,,379.37,,3.79
136,,383.16,,3.83
137,,387.00,,3.87
138,,390.87,,3.91
139,,394.77,,3.95
140,,398.72,,3.99
141,,402.71,,4.03
142,,406.74,,4.07
143,,410.80,,4.11
144,,414.91,,4.15
145,,419.06,,4.19
146,,423.25,,4.23
147,,427.48,,4.27
148,,431.76,,4.32
149,,436.08,,4.36
150,,440.44,,4.40
151,,444.84,,4.45
152,,449.29,,4.49
153,,453.78,,4.54
154,,458.32,,4.58
155,,462.90,,4.63
156,,467.53,,4.68
157,,472.21,,4.72
158,,476.93,,4.77
159,,481.70,,4.82
160,,486.52,,4.87
161,,491.38,,4.91
162,,496.30,,4.96
163,,501.26,,5.01
164,,506.27,,5.06
165,,511.33,,5.11
166,,516.45,,5.16
167,,521.61,,5.22
168,,526.83,,5.27
169,,532.10,,5.32
170,,537.42,,5.37
171,,542.79,,5.43
172,,548.22,,5.48
173,,553.70,,5.54
174,,559.24,,5.59
175,,564.83,,5.65
176,,570.48,,5.70
177,,576.18,,5.76
178,,581.95,,5.82
179,,587.77,,5.88
180,,593.64,,5.94
181,,599.58,,6.00
182,,605.58,,6.06
183,,611.63,,6.12
184,,617.75,,6.18
185,,623.93,,6.24
186,,630.16,,6.30
187,,636.47,,6.36
188,,642.83,,6.43
189,,649.26,,6.49
190,,655.75,,6.56
191,,662.31,,6.62
192,,668.93,,6.69
193,,675.62,,6.76
194,,682.38,,6.82
195,,689.20,,6.89
196,,696.09,,6.96
197,,703.05,,7.03
198,,710.09,,7.10
199,,717.19,,7.17
200,,724.36,,7.24
201,,731.60,,7.32
202,,738.92,,7.39
203,,746.31,,7.46
204,,753.77,,7.54
205,,761.31,,7.61
206,,768.92,,7.69
207,,776.61,,7.77
208,,784.38,,7.84
209,,792.22,,7.92
210,,800.14,,8.00
211,,808.14,,8.08
212,,816.22,,8.16
213,,824.39,,8.24
214,,832.63,,8.33
215,,840.96,,8.41
216,,849.37,,8.49
217,,857.86,,8.58
218,,866.44,,8.66
219,,875.10,,8.75
220,,883.85,,8.84
221,,892.69,,8.93
222,,901.62,,9.02
223,,910.64,,9.11
224,,919.74,,9.20
225,,928.94,,9.29
226,,938.23,,9.38
227,,947.61,,9.48
228,,957.09,,9.57
229,,966.66,,9.67
230,,976.33,,9.76
231,,986.09,,9.86
232,,995.95,,9.96
233,,1005.91,,10.06
234,,1015.97,,10.16
235,,1026.13,,10.26
236,,1036.39,,10.36
237,,1046.75,,10.47
238,,1057.22,,10.57
239,,1067.79,,10.68
240,,1078.47,,10.78
241,,1089.26,,10.89
242,,1100.15,,11.00
243,,1111.15,,11.11
244,,1122.26,,11.22
245,,1133.48,,11.33
246,,1144.82,,11.45
247,,1156.27,,11.56
248,,1167.83,,11.68
249,,1179.51,,11.80
250,,1191.30,,11.91
251,,1203.22,,12.03
252,,1215.25,,12.15
253,,1227.40,,12.27
254,,1239.67,,12.40
255,,1252.07,,12.52
256,,1264.59,,12.65
257,,1277.24,,12.77
258,,1290.01,,12.90
259,,1302.91,,13.03
260,,1315.94,,13.16
261,,1329.10,,13.29
262,,1342.39,,13.42
263,,1355.81,,13.56
264,,1369.37,,13.69
265,,1383.07,,13.83
266,,1396.90,,13.97
267,,1410.86,,14.11
268,,1424.97,,14.25
269,,1439.22,,14.39
270,,1453.62,,14.54
271,,1468.15,,14.68
272,,1482.83,,14.83
273,,1497.66,,14.98
274,,1512.64,,15.13
275,,1527.76,,15.28
276,,1543.04,,15.43
277,,1558.47,,15.58
278,,1574.06,,15.74
279,,1589.80,,15.90
280,,1605.70,,16.06
281,,1621.75,,16.22
282,,1637.97,,16.38
283,,1654.35,,16.54
284,,1670.89,,16.71
285,,1687.60,,16.88
286,,1704.48,,17.04
287,,1721.52,,17.22
288,,1738.74,,17.39
289,,1756.13,,17.56
290,,1773.69,,17.74
291,,1791.42,,17.91
292,,1809.34,,18.09
293,,1827.43,,18.27
294,,1845.71,,18.46
295,,1864.16,,18.64
296,,1882.80,,18.83
297,,1901.63,,19.02
298,,1920.65,,19.21
299,,1939.86,,19.40
300,,1959.25,,19.59
301,,1978.85,,19.79
302,,1998.64,,19.99
303,,2018.62,,20.19
304,,2038.81,,20.39
305,,2059.20,,20.59
306,,2079.79,,20.80
307,,2100.59,,21.01
308,,2121.59,,21.22
309,,2142.81,,21.43
310,,2164.24,,21.64
311,,2185.88,,21.86
312,,2207.74,,22.08
313,,2229.81,,22.30
314,,2252.11,,22.52
315,,2274.63,,22.75
316,,2297.38,,22.97
317,,2320.35,,23.20
318,,2343.56,,23.44
319,,2366.99,,23.67
320,,2390.66,,23.91
321,,2414.57,,24.15
322,,2438.71,,24.39
323,,2463.10,,24.63
324,,2487.73,,24.88
325,,2512.61,,25.13
326,,2537.74,,25.38
327,,2563.11,,25.63
328,,2588.74,,25.89
329,,2614.63,,26.15
330,,2640.78,,26.41
331,,2667.19,,26.67
332,,2693.86,,26.94
333,,2720.80,,27.21
334,,2748.00,,27.48
335,,2775.48,,27.75
336,,2803.24,,28.03
337,,2831.27,,28.31
338,,2859.58,,28.60
339,,2888.18,,28.88
340,,2917.06,,29.17
341,,2946.23,,29.46
342,,2975.70,,29.76
343,,3005.45,,30.05
344,,3035.51,,30.36
345,,3065.86,,30.66
346,,3096.52,,30.97
347,,3127.49,,31.27
348,,3158.76,,31.59
349,,3190.35,,31.90
350,,3222.25,,32.22
351,,3254.47,,32.54
352,,3287.02,,32.87
353,,3319.89,,33.20
354,,3353.09,,33.53
355,,3386.62,,33.87
356,,3420.49,,34.20
357,,3454.69,,34.55
358,,3489.24,,34.89
359,,3524.13,,35.24
360,,3559.37,,35.59
361,,3594.96,,35.95
362,,3630.91,,36.31
363,,3667.22,,36.67
364,,3703.90,,37.04
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[JHM]

Good Luck Wally, you'll need it. Everybody needs it when playing a game of chance involved 

[Wally Gator]

Thanks JHM.  I'm going to try to speed things up a bit, when I can, by doing more than one session when I go.

[Marven]

Preach it Brother Preach it.......Your Best so far Mareven....Real good Mate.

That is the best discription I have ever seen.

And I read every post every day.

I'm only a student of yours dear Lanky.

@Wally,

Good luck sir.

Regards,
Marven

[roules]

Good on ya Wally, best regards for this. Compounding is the 8th wonder of the world they say!
I tried something similar a while back and aimed for 10% but didn't go too well.

Just and only just an idea, would it pay to have a second bankroll to help fund the current session if it's not going well, or bring it into play after say 3 losing sessions? I only suggest this as a means to protect the main bankroll. 

[Wally Gator]

roules,

No question .... if we can have 10 banks it's a good thing.  Here's another example of the flexibility.  If you prefer not to take the risk in gaining the 1% with a single bank, then once your bank doubles, go back to session 1 and now begin again, but with 2 banks.  Make sense?

My personal goal is to take the 100 unit bank (for me that's $100 bucks) and in less than 3 years turn it into $1M.  Sounds crazy, but keep that thought of compounding interest in mind.

[TwoCatSam]

Gentlemen

Has anyone ever heard of the Kelly Criterion?  It's a horse racing term, but Kelly was a financial person or something.  He just applied his knowledge to the races.

Sam

[mistarlupo]

Hm, I've never heard of Kelly Criterion as a horse racing term?
I think it's a mathematical formula, that can be applied to both gambling and business.

Maybe I'm wrong but there are loads of websites with detailed information about that.

TwoCatSam,
It's gonna be great addition to the money management section, the Kelly formula explained...
I'll try to find some more information and maybe post something.

Take care,
m

[TwoCatSam]

m

I said that wrong!  I meant to say it's a term I heard while playing the horses, not a horse race term.  Yes, do post on it. 

Sam

[lucky_strike]

I have read about it with nice explenation, but the site is down, when its open again i will post you the link.

But made a quick search and here you can read about the basic idea nolinks://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_criterion

Cheers Lucky Strike

[lucky_strike]

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