Happy New Year 2014!

[VLS]

May 2014 bring you the best and all your New Year's Wishes become true...



From Victor & Family

[Mr J]

You as well my friend and to everyone....... HAVE A GREAT 2014 !!

Ken

[anandram]

Happy new year to all ! Are there any members still knocking around these forums? I see my old friend Mr J is still here and Vic

Anyone else still around? Forums are looking a bit dry these days..

Steve are we still fighting an unbeatable task with the "AP doesn't work" thing or have people learnt about physics now? What's the latest on your computers? Any upgrades or new features?

Thanks

Anandram- flying pig guy..

[Mr J]

"are we still fighting an unbeatable task with the "AP doesn't work" thing" >>> Say what? Lets look at the history of who rips on who the most. The AP crew CRUCIFY those not in the same clan.

Ken

[anandram]

Still as pleasant as ever MR J

There should be no crucifying going on...i think discussions just get heated because one "side" believes in something and the other something else..I think by now if people have not broken down what a live roulette table is fundamentally (physics)...then I suggest we move onto another set of people that may open up to this fact.

I believe at the end of the day, it should come down to facts.. here's mine: roulette is based on physics and the variable elements of the ball speed, rotation of the wheel etc, and therefore if we understand these variables and dissect into tangible data...we can ultimately figure it out (live wheels).

Without going over old ground Mr J...what is your argument against these facts ?

[Mr J]

Thats not my arguement, here it is (especially to Snowman) >> You feel you are "right". Thats great, have a blast BUT LEAVE THE METHOD PEOPLE ALONE.

The AP crew (cough) can all pat each other on the back and smile. Remember, its not a lie if you believe it.




Ken

[anandram]

Fair enough, i think the reason why AP guys do not bury their heads in the sand with regards to AP vs Methods is because for some reason they feel compelled to convince people of what the TRUTH is. Call it a crusade if you will.  Ultimately they (we) are trying to help if you think about it.

Put it this way - if you had a girlfriend Mr J and i KNEW she was cheating on you, I wouldn't "leave you to it", i would try to convince you of the truth, possibly because I care but more so because it's factual...it's the truth. IF i said Obama was the king of china and you (i hope) knew better, you would prove to me the facts, you would feel compelled to because it's the truth no?

Method players who are so defensive about AP must ask themselves why they are so defensive. Ignorance can be bliss but it can also be the cause of frustration and argument when you are being told something against what you believe, but more importantly do not understand. I'm surprised after all these years that Steve has not just given you something free of charge to play about with regarding AP so you can see for yourself, to prove the point, rather than these perpetual circles.

I also however mentioned that you can only help so much, and to let people that simply do not WANT to know about the facts get on with what they're  doing. So i'll leave it at that.

[Mr J]

You have to look at it from my view, its a bit insulting. I do quite well with this game. As stated many times in the past, I notice a big change around every 18 months. My BR lasts longer, my overall profit (percent) goes up a bit. Its all from trial & error, watching/learning, tweaking methods, being on forums, taking notes at casino etc.

We have a few different choices >>

A) I am a liar.

B) I'm just getting lucky (lucky for this many years?)

C) I'm an AP'er and dont know it. (hard to believe since my bets are moving all over the place).

D) I'm being honest. If you put in hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of hours INTO THIS GAME, you can spot an EVENT (as I call it) and take advantage of it. Something that "should" happen. The number(s) themselves mean very little.

Ken

[Mr J]

Point being, a 20 year player and a 4 month player.....to say that they are both on the SAME level is LUNACY at its finest.

Ken

[hoper35]

Best wishes for 2014, everyone.   

[hoper35]

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