Should we rotate systems?

[TwoCatSam]

Greetings!

R.D. Ellison said the wheel seems to sniff us out; learn what we are doing and put in countermeasures to beat us.  I think the operative word is "seems"; wheel couldn't really do that, could it?

I seem to be able to win money one or maybe two days on a system and then it tanks.  Just finished checking some numbers on the /Compa-LeBear-17Black system and found it would have been good today on Wild Jack.  The Boo_Ray system tanked, but I think it will return.

I have noticed when a system is doing great, sit around and it will tank that session.  Perhaps we should expand that idea to say if a system is doing good for a couple of sessions, it will tank.  Perhaps the peaks and valleys carry over from session to session.

So, let's have some thoughts on rotating systems and playing one today and another tomorrow.

....or not.

Sam

[Lohnro]

I have often thought along those lines as well 2cat. I use to think when a system has done well, do the opposite before it tanks. But it was too hard to find the right moment to swap and do the opposite. I always seemed to end up on the wrong side to what I should of been doing......if that makes sense!

My point is, that in this damn random game, you will never know when or which system to use?

My only glim hope that I still hold on to is, when a system has a EXTRAORDINARY good run, be sure that it will tank soon.................then do the opposite.

....or not.

[TwoCatSam]

Well, we know it's a roller coaster!  Peaks and valleys and all that.

But, you're right.......how to know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em?

Sam

[bjb007]

Seems to me that any system will work
when the conditions are right.

When the conditions are wrong it will tank.

So my theory is to discover the conditions
required for a system to work and wait for
them to be present.

Otherwise don't play that system.

This would require a decent number of spins
from a winning session to use as a reference
and a means of quickly deciding (say in 20-30
spins) whether or not the conditions were
right to play.

Easier said than done of course.

[RICHIECHIPS]

Hay Big Sam,

R.D. has written one of the better roulette books.  I agree with much of his writings.  He does have a fascination with the wheel which is hard to digest. He has a good point and what he calls wheel memory I prefer to call dependence.

I tested hundreds and hundreds of system over the years on high speed computers each with printed graphs as well as in live casinos.  You are right on the money with you sense of peaks & valleys.  It became very evident that every system no matter how good or bad fluctuated up and down.  I eventually decided to choose to call it luck cycles.  In other words when you get on a system / table you really never know where you are jumping in your / it's luck cycle.  You could be jumping in at its peak or on its way up or down.  Obviously they have highs and lows.  So sticking with testing a system until it fully opens up to you is key.  Once it opens up to you, you will get a feel for its average climb to its high and it average drop to its average low.  The key becomes getting in and out before it hits its average high, or just as it is dropping.  If you come in late you will know how long you may have to stay until it springs back.  Like setting buy orders and stop losses on stocks.   Believe it or not luck has everything to do with it.  I don't care how good one's system is, luck never hurts.  Rotating systems as you suggest is a very good idea depending on how the table you get on is running.  Instead of one system today and one tomorrow what I have done with some success is use 2 systems at the same time.  One on one spin and another on the next spin.  Sounds weird but it seems to work.  But we still need to be cognizant of its' what I call "Spring Value", (its ups & down limits) and get out in time or have the courage to stick with it until it comes back knowing just how far you can push it and get out just before then.
Color In,
RICHIECHIPS

[Roulette787]

I tried to create a similar method sometime ago.

The idea was to plot 3 systems. Pick the winning system, and play only that.


In the chart below, 3 lines display 3 systems.
You can notice, at least 1 system is always winning.


It looks easy when you look at a final chart like this. But, when the session is in progress, it's really difficult to pick the right one.

However, I think over-time, playing RANDOM systems will eventually find it's equilibrium and get into the same negative results.

[Roulette787]

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