What is a trend ?

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I'm running a contest for the first person to make just $1 (1 unit) in a minimum of 100 spins and if you lose you come back and try another 100 spins and if you still can't make 1 unit profit you get another 100 spins for a total of 300 spins just to make 1 unit.   The winner get's $25 in their PayPal account which is the prize and the title of "I'm a for real Roulette player that makes money".   If you think the $25 is too small, well hold your own contest and pay some big bucks.

I never asked anyone to say one word about their system - just play and since we can't see their PC screen to say what their bet was and the running total.

I don't expect anyone to tell me their system - somehow you guys seem to expect that.

I just want to see, with my own eyes, someone play Roulette and make a profit after at least 100 spins - that removes luck and since Green 0 will show up many times the system actually must work.

If I see such a system, and it looks like something I might want to use, I will pay for it, and sign a non-disclosure agreement too; if it is for sale.   If it is not for sale I have Black Jack systems that I will demo, to the person, and offer as an exchange - Black Jack for Roulette.

Why anyone would release a real working Roulette system to the public for free is beyond me. . . .

Before your time here, back when Victor ran this forum there was a member that goes by the name of Ray who did a massive 5,000 spin live roulette challenge right here over the course of two weeks.   

It was done against "Herb" who was the complete non-believer in any system.   He was a VB player I believe and he was basically you Maui but only 2 years earlier.   Herb challenged Ray to see if he could win with his system while Herb himself called the numbers and the numbers were verified by two other respected well trusted members including Victor himself.   All the numbers were previously sent to 3 different parties for accuracy and to avoid any cheating.

Ray destroyed Herb's challenge winning +720 units all FLAT betting playing only the inside numbers.   This challenge was done over the course of 2 wks and eventually it was Herb who decided to quit the competition early.   Ray basically wanted to keep going, but left Herb speechless.   Ray plays numbers totally based on randomness.   I've talked to him several times and he has shown me how he plays.   He wins on a regular basis and can even consistently beat those annoying roulette RNG slot machines at the casino.   As long as its random, he can beat it, all without physically looking at the wheel itself, just the marquee.

Take a look at the challenge here: hxxp: vlsroulette. com/roulette-challenge-zone/herbray/

Read every single post and watch as he climbs his bankroll from -36 to +720 flat betting.

He is still a member here but has not posted in a while.   He has completed quite a few other challenges at other roulette forums, all with similar results.   He did a challenge at rouletteforum. com a while back but I can't find the link.

To this day he is a regular professional roulette player without a "dayjob" as hard as that might be to imagine.

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vlsroulette. com/roulette-challenge-zone/herbray is the correct link, when I pasted it above this website automatically distorted the link.

[MauiSunset]

Before your time here, back when Victor ran this forum there was a member that goes by the name of Ray who did a massive 5,000 spin live roulette challenge right here over the course of two weeks.   

It was done against "Herb" who was the complete non-believer in any system.   He was a VB player I believe and he was basically you Maui but only 2 years earlier.   Herb challenged Ray to see if he could win with his system while Herb himself called the numbers and the numbers were verified by two other respected well trusted members including Victor himself.   All the numbers were previously sent to 3 different parties for accuracy and to avoid any cheating.

Ray destroyed Herb's challenge winning +720 units all FLAT betting playing only the inside numbers.   This challenge was done over the course of 2 wks and eventually it was Herb who decided to quit the competition early.   Ray basically wanted to keep going, but left Herb speechless.   Ray plays numbers totally based on randomness.   I've talked to him several times and he has shown me how he plays.   He wins on a regular basis and can even consistently beat those annoying roulette RNG slot machines at the casino.   As long as its random, he can beat it, all without physically looking at the wheel itself, just the marquee.

Take a look at the challenge here: hxxp: vlsroulette. com/roulette-challenge-zone/herbray/

Read every single post and watch as he climbs his bankroll from -36 to +720 flat betting.

He is still a member here but has not posted in a while.   He has completed quite a few other challenges at other roulette forums, all with similar results.   He did a challenge at rouletteforum. com a while back but I can't find the link.

To this day he is a regular professional roulette player without a "dayjob" as hard as that might be to imagine.

Thanks for the link

[bombus]

Before your time here, back when Victor ran this forum there was a member that goes by the name of Ray who did a massive 5,000 spin live roulette challenge right here over the course of two weeks.   

It was done against "Herb" who was the complete non-believer in any system.   He was a VB player I believe and he was basically you Maui but only 2 years earlier.   Herb challenged Ray to see if he could win with his system while Herb himself called the numbers and the numbers were verified by two other respected well trusted members including Victor himself.   All the numbers were previously sent to 3 different parties for accuracy and to avoid any cheating.

Ray destroyed Herb's challenge winning +720 units all FLAT betting playing only the inside numbers.   This challenge was done over the course of 2 wks and eventually it was Herb who decided to quit the competition early.   Ray basically wanted to keep going, but left Herb speechless.   Ray plays numbers totally based on randomness.   I've talked to him several times and he has shown me how he plays.   He wins on a regular basis and can even consistently beat those annoying roulette RNG slot machines at the casino.   As long as its random, he can beat it, all without physically looking at the wheel itself, just the marquee.

Take a look at the challenge here: hxxp: vlsroulette. com/roulette-challenge-zone/herbray/

Read every single post and watch as he climbs his bankroll from -36 to +720 flat betting.

He is still a member here but has not posted in a while.   He has completed quite a few other challenges at other roulette forums, all with similar results.   He did a challenge at rouletteforum. com a while back but I can't find the link.

To this day he is a regular professional roulette player without a "dayjob" as hard as that might be to imagine.

Yeah, and I took part in a 300 spin challenge on rouletteforum.net where my bankroll went from 1000 to 2865.

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Yeah, and I took part in a 300 spin challenge on rouletteforum. net where my bankroll went from 1000 to 2865. 

Flat betting?

[bombus]

Flat betting?

Yes and no.

I did not use any progression, but I did use several levels of flat betting.

You know, less on the "basic" bets, more on the "special" bets.

And of course a few crazy bets right at the end to try and rope in the leader.

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Here is another challenge done by Ray in 2008, this time on rouletteforum. net.   Here he only used 3 numbers per bet and finished with a profit of +210 all flat betting.

hxxp: nolinks. rouletteforum. net/cgi-bin/forum/Blah. pl?m-1206032562/s-0/

I have also seen him win challenges betting only 2 numbers and 1 number per bet.   He also has beat challenges from strictly RNG numbers straight from computer software.

Everytime he walks into a casino he wins, period.   He never leaves with a loss, he stays until he can grind out a profit even on a difficult session.

[darrynf]

sounds like you could learn from this guy.

how dose he pick his numbers ?

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When you ask him that same question he says, "its Magic. "

[darrynf]

lol

i think i know.


theres only one way to get alot of hits from inside numbers.

hes a wise one.

[gizmotron]

It's very simple. You teach yourself to read what is currently happening. The inside numbers act just like the outside betting groups. If you create your own pet sets, from the inside, then they will do what randomness always does. It all acts the same. It all goes through the same kind of changes. That's what you must learn how to observer and detect. You must find your own way to relate to what you are seeing. When I taught students there was a steep learning curve. People naturally get bogged down in the new information to become accustomed to seeing. It takes a while to get used to seeing trends. And to get used to seeing them change from type to type.

After that it takes time to get good at reacting to changes. There is only one way to do this, Practice Practice Practice. Now you can risk real money to learn this at real casinos but I recommend practice at home using practice simulations.

PS, still enjoying a harassment free, ( Cheese Free ) forum experience. To bad that pest comes back soon.

[Nathan Detroit]

*****Everytime he walks into a casino he wins, period.   He never leaves with a loss, he stays until he can grind out a profit even on a difficult session.*******

According to this  statement he too encounters  problems that he is  not always  correct in his  bet selections. But that he made mince meat out of this  HERB  is  a sign that Ray knows  his business but does  not elevate him to superman of roulette   status Other experienced roulette players know  better.


Nathan Detroit
HAPPYWINNINGS!!!  

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*****Everytime he walks into a casino he wins, period.    He never leaves with a loss, he stays until he can grind out a profit even on a difficult session. *******

According to this  statement he too encounters  problems that he is  not always  correct in his  bet selections.  But that he made mince meat out of this  HERB  is  a sign that Ray knows  his business but does  not elevate him to superman of roulette   status Other experienced roulette players know  better.


Nathan Detroit
HAPPYWINNINGS!!!  

No one can win every bet they place, the key is to win every session and always fight to never take a loss.   I always have found it interesting how someone can be just as good on a RNG slot machine as a real wheel.   According to him, they are not fixed in anyway and simply produce random numbers.   As long as it produces random, it is at his mercy.

[bombus]

No one can win every bet they place, the key is to win every session and always fight to never take a loss...

Rule number 1:
Never start a session you're not prepared to devote enough time to for grinding out a  profit.

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Rule number 1:
Never start a session you're not prepared to devote enough time to for grinding out a  profit.

I would say that never ride a trend until you won and trending like most pepole is worst case scenario as you have to win twice to keep one unit flat betting (false positive).
And if you break even its not happining so there is no need to continue.

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