What is a trend ?

[pins]

the owner of the casino said i have never known any gambler to win in the long run. he should know.

[Nathan Detroit]

The ones   who are proclaimng that you  can`t`t win in the long run , the next spin is indepedent of the previous I`ts  always 50/50, the math says so. Thos  are the usual cliches.

Those  cats  don`t know  anything. They  just blabber to make themselves  SOUND important. They are card carrying members of the empty suit  fraternity. You find them all over  like  rodents  or bugs and they should be either ignored or squashed.

darynf you finally wised up   even if you did not like it when I warned  you about that scammer clothdog.

Just plan your play and play you plan  and ignore the  key board blabber.

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!

P.S. If you find yourself in a trending situation then play it until the FIRST loss.

[darrynf]

i know mate. i dont remember what clothdog said.

anyway its not about the system it just people on here, its intoxicating.

lesson learnt, dont brag or tell anything about your system. when i get a chance i play again and wont bother telling anything, maybe on my thread.

[MauiSunset]

I think james is right on this one.

why prove anything here, theres always people that will put your beliefes down, it cant be beaten blah blah.

just like maui and zindrod, I understand where they are comming from cause I thought the same once. now I know it can be beaten, yes you do lose at times, so what. you more then you lose.

people dont want a winning formula, they just want to argue and put people down. personaly im tired of that bullshit. thats why people that win dont come here or boost about stuff, that was my mistake. yes I am new at roulette but I know how to win.

anyway I think you have a valid point james, I always like reading your stuff. remined never to get in an arguement with you mate lol

personaly I dont get why none believers hang out around here or try to come up with a system that dosent work. I guess they want a peice of the pie.

I'm running a contest for the first person to make just $1 (1 unit) in a minimum of 100 spins and if you lose you come back and try another 100 spins and if you still can't make 1 unit profit you get another 100 spins for a total of 300 spins just to make 1 unit.  The winner get's $25 in their PayPal account which is the prize and the title of "I'm a for real Roulette player that makes money".  If you think the $25 is too small, well hold your own contest and pay some big bucks.

I never asked anyone to say one word about their system - just play and since we can't see their PC screen to say what their bet was and the running total.

I don't expect anyone to tell me their system - somehow you guys seem to expect that.

I just want to see, with my own eyes, someone play Roulette and make a profit after at least 100 spins - that removes luck and since Green 0 will show up many times the system actually must work.

If I see such a system, and it looks like something I might want to use, I will pay for it, and sign a non-disclosure agreement too; if it is for sale.  If it is not for sale I have Black Jack systems that I will demo, to the person, and offer as an exchange - Black Jack for Roulette.

Why anyone would release a real working Roulette system to the public for free is beyond me....

[darrynf]

maui not just you,

theres others that dont believe.


if you try and sell a system that works, you get called a scammer, if you give a system away for free, then it cant work, people like you dont want to do any research mate.

a test was done on my system with 600k spins and it was positive, thats more then 100 spins.

but people still think you are shit, so why bother, i could take that test but no one will care, im willing to take steve challenge 100k, but people still think it wont win after the next million spins.

it get intoxicating, it was my fault for trying to argue. the system works and its free, i could give you a very simple version and it will win in a real casino.

but that wont be good enough cause you just want to bicker, you want a simple system that wins ? then look.

the clues are all there, if you want i will even tell you. if you win then you can tell me and shut up about your ufo bull shit.

look mate i dont mean to be rude just sick of trying to prove anything. its free, i just cant seem to win

[MauiSunset]

maui not just you,

theres others that dont believe.


if you try and sell a system that works, you get called a scammer, if you give a system away for free, then it cant work, people like you dont want to do any research mate.

a test was done on my system with 600k spins and it was positive, thats more then 100 spins.

but people still think you are shit, so why bother, I could take that test but no one will care, im willing to take Steve challenge 100k, but people still think it wont win after the next million spins.

it get intoxicating, it was my fault for trying to argue. the system works and its free, I could give you a very simple version and it will win in a real casino.

but that wont be good enough cause you just want to bicker, you want a simple system that wins ? then look.

the clues are all there, if you want I will even tell you. if you win then you can tell me and shut up about your ufo bull shit.

look mate I dont mean to be rude just sick of trying to prove anything. its free, I just cant seem to win

I've seen where folks think I don't do research - are you clairvoyant?

Working hard means nothing, zilch, zip.

Working smart is much better.

I know Roulette can't be broken by math or science - it has withstood 300 years of attack and nobody here is going to break it with those tools.  Many here seem to realize that and use voodoo math and science with the hope that might work - it won't.

Money management is where I'm focusing and it uses 100% math - will I have any success?  I don't know but that's where I'm focusing my efforts.

I'm working on two ideas that I've stumbled on and doing the research and building systems.  I've so far spent 10,000 spins, by hand, to test them and I like what I see.  I go to Vegas at the end of April and hope to play the system(s) for real.

I am very excited with the results so far - don't know if it will stand up to lots more testing.  I've got to assume that I will hit a brick wall at some point since I've got 300 years of attacks to overcome.

So I take gambling very seriously and put in a lot of time and hope the effort will be worth it.

I am currently working on disguising the system so no one at the pit can figure out what the system is.  If I ever feel confident of the system I will demo it here for you guys and if you can figure it out I must throw the system away and start all over again.

Well that's my status so far after starting on Roulette in January....

[darrynf]

fair enouth mate.

hope it goes well for you.


if it works dont bother showing it mate, people dont care.


that was my mistake, im going to delete my system soon.

[MauiSunset]

fair enouth mate.

hope it goes well for you.


if it works dont bother showing it mate, people dont care.


that was my mistake, im going to delete my system soon.

But I must demo it!

A successful Roulette system can't be figured out by folks at the pit - or on a chatroom.

I have already built 2 systems that produce identical results but vastly different.  I am merging them together right this minute and I expected the accuracy and profit to be really hit - to my surprise they are just as accurate and profitable!  I'm scared now since that should not happen.

Anyway I've gone out of my way to disguise the principles behind the 2 systems and I am pleased so far with the betting patterns - I can't figure it out by just looking at the bets.

I plan 10,000 more hand spins between now and Vegas at the end of April.  If it looks good I will actually play it on an American wheel - I believe it will still be profitable but that remains to be seen.

So there is at least one person in St. Louis working hard on Roulette; don't know about anyone else....

[Nathan Detroit]

*******I am currently working on disguising the system so no one at the pit can figure out what the system is.  If I ever feel confident of the system I will demo it here for you guys and if you can figure it out I must throw the system away and start all over again.*******

Maui,

Do you think that the  pit has nothing else  to  do but worry about your system ? I am playing  at live  casinos  since 1981 . I am playing a grand inside system ( strategic as well as tactical ). I don`t even bother to order a drink because  by the time   the watress would  return I would   lose more than  the  value   of the drink.

All I know is  when I get up from the  table the   crew    is  always shocked  as if hit with a bucket of cold water. That`s during my winning  sessions.

The same  reaction awhen I suddenly get up at a losing session except I hear : Don`t you want to win it back ?
With a slightly lower bankroll??
Hey if you wanna win a  battle  you go in   with full force and not half c**ked . THINK!!

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!


P.S  It`s a well known and documnetd  fact that system  developers  and testers are always winners  in their posts

[MauiSunset]

*******I am currently working on disguising the system so no one at the pit can figure out what the system is.  If I ever feel confident of the system I will demo it here for you guys and if you can figure it out I must throw the system away and start all over again.*******

Maui,

Do you think that the  pit has nothing else  to  do than worry about your system ? I am playin  at live  casinos  since 1981 . I am playing a grand inside system ( strategic as well as tactical ). I don`t even bother to order a drink because  by the time   the watress would  retuern I would   lose more that  the  value   of the drink.

All I know  when I get up the   crew  at the table  is  always shocked  as if hit with a bucket of cold water. That`s duringmy winning  sessions.

The same  reaction awhen I suddenly get up at alosing session except I hear : Don`t you want to win it back ?
With a slightly lower bankroll??
Hey if you wanna win a  battle  you go in   with full force and not half c**ked . THINK!!

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

This may just be moot since Vegas is 99% American wheels and that extra 2.5% house advantage is a killer and since I'm American I can't gamble on European internet casinos - basically I'm screwed as an American.

But I will disguise the system, since if I get it to work I will franchise it....

[Nathan Detroit]

I am  residing in the States ( East Coast). so I am in the same  boat with  the 5,26 % . Do I worry? No. I ignore this  little inconvenience. Lived with  it for the past 31  years.

My inside system cannot be played  at a table with a single 0 whee l/ layout.


N.D.:

[darrynf]

what i find funny is someone who dosent believe roultte can be beaten is beaten roulette. i have herd it only takes 10,000 spins to know if a system is good.

i guess everyone is different.


its just so damn funny that maui has a system, he must be playing with ufo's and voodoo magic. must be in his fantasy world.

anyway maui hope it goes well for you. remeber you arent the first mate and you wont be the last.

@ nathan detroit

you are right mate, its funny how testers and what not are winners in there threads. i guess i fall into this but i know for a fact that my system wins. i have played it and theres not much more to say.

my fault was trying to convince others, there are some genuine people and some arent. anyway my fault.
i dont believe experience is about how long you have played but how much you make. i may not be experience in terms of playing awhile but it dosent mean i dont know what im doing.

i agree with you nathan.

[MauiSunset]

what I find funny is someone who dosent believe roultte can be beaten is beaten roulette. I have herd it only takes 10,000 spins to know if a system is good.

I guess everyone is different.


its just so damn funny that maui has a system, he must be playing with ufo's and voodoo magic. must be in his fantasy world.

anyway maui hope it goes well for you. remeber you arent the first mate and you wont be the last.

@ nathan detroit

you are right mate, its funny how testers and what not are winners in there threads. I guess I fall into this but I know for a fact that my system wins. I have played it and theres not much more to say.

my fault was trying to convince others, there are some genuine people and some arent. anyway my fault.
I dont believe experience is about how long you have played but how much you make. I may not be experience in terms of playing awhile but it dosent mean I dont know what im doing.

I agree with you nathan.

Why did I have the feeling I'd be misinterpreted?

Roulette can't be beaten with science or math - 300 years proves it.

Money Management is totally different.

If you don't know the difference, that's your problem....

[pins]

why argue. the truth is no system can gurantee winning. sometimes the numbers play the way you want. and sometimes they do not.  a system would have to win at least  two hundred dollars a day to be worth while playing. i was in the casino yesterday and 35.35.35.12.12.12, it must be a fix you would say. its just chance. think about it the wheel is spinning one way the ball is spinning another. the spinner is about to throw the ball somebody wants change. a different result. how could you forecast that.  system may give you a better chance of winning but no gurantee.

[Nathan Detroit]

It`s not  how many years   one  has played. It is  just a matter of reference to the time  spend in casinos . At the beginning  I did not play  with that much confidence . It was not even the system  of today.
but I do know  one thing: I  do not  derive an income from gambling. I have mentioned many times I   plan for  3   sessions ( 3 equal bankrolls). I attempt to win 2  out of 3 sessions or if during the first session I happen to find myself in an extreme streak and I achieve the total win goal of 3 sessions then my day at the table  ends with  a   loss at end of this  streak and  I call it a day.

It is not how much you win it is  how little  you lose which makes one a winner .So you can see this is a well laid out plan and I possess the discipline to stick with it.

The system we  chose  is the strategy and the  M.M. is the tactic.


Nathan Detroit

HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

G.B.A.

[Nathan Detroit]

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