WHY IS THIS FORUM DEAD?

[CASINO-PLAYER]

Does anyone know, and do they have the guts to say so on here?

[Mike]

Supposing winning systems actually exist, why would anyone post it on a public message board? that would be silly. All that remains is for scammers to target the newbies, so it doesn't make for many posts. There really isn't much to talk about. If you have a winning method then you'll keep it to yourself, and if you don't, you keep reading the forums in the hope that someone will post a holy grail, or to get ideas to create your own winning system.

[CASINO-PLAYER]

Mike, Good answer.
Any more posters with brains?

[gizmotron]

Supposing winning systems actually exist, why would anyone post it on a public message board? that would be silly. All that remains is for scammers to target the newbies, so it doesn't make for many posts. There really isn't much to talk about. If you have a winning method then you'll keep it to yourself, and if you don't, you keep reading the forums in the hope that someone will post a holy grail, or to get ideas to create your own winning system.

That was an interesting theory for human nature. Now consider this one. The urge to publish a definitive solution to winning is more powerful a temptation than any monetary gain from actually playing it could be. An issue of selective fairness, based on those that act first, might be regulated by offering the unwashed with an option to act on faith in human nature to begin with. A kind of joke on the skeptics, an epiphany, a chance to destroy your own effort to succeed by breaking your own common sense, and just leaping at the chance that a published document might actually be the truth, the greatest prank of all time. To defy the logic of slitting your own throat by succeeding at acquiring what you seek. By purchasing the truth you participate in its own destruction. And to do this deliberately just to watch the skeptics squirm in their seats. The ultimate guilt trip. Motivation can have several rewards and still have a brief moment of fascination too. There are many good reasons to publish.

[Mike]

The urge to publish a definitive solution to winning is more powerful a temptation than any monetary gain from actually playing it could be.

Funny that no one has done it since roulette was invented then. The alternative explanation is by far the more plausible, ie, that no solution exists. The skeptics are right to be skeptical, particularly when those who claim winners feel the need to charge for the solution.

[CASINO-PLAYER]

@ MIKE,
Sorry to contradict you, but I know there are lots of successful professional roulette players out there.
I am only a part time player and use a "Strategy" only to win.  Hit & Run is my style.  These pros.  work to a plan or some formula of some sort.  I know quite a few of them and they do not give anything away.  Hope that will help you.

[gizmotron]

Funny that no one has done it since roulette was invented then. The alternative explanation is by far the more plausible, ie, that no solution exists. The skeptics are right to be skeptical, particularly when those who claim winners feel the need to charge for the solution.

Consider this bit of timely logic then:
nolinks://blog.richmond.edu/physicsbunn/2009/01/27/what-is-probability/#comment-1731
The comment at the bottom has been on this academic forum for almost a year now.

This is the age of the personal computer. I'm a programmer that has researched what is actually possible regarding Roulette. These computers have only been used like this for the past 20 to 30 years. There is anecdotal evidence that only a few have tried to use computers to find a system that beats Roulette, and of those that admit it only one has extensively researched randomness as the proper solution. But I have chosen not to publish my findings at this time. I have my reasons. I could though, any time I want I can drop a bomb on the gambling world. And I don't care that you and others like you are convinced that you understand my motivation. Where the heck where you when I started researching randomness? You people are still clueless.

[John Gold]

Think about it! even Mother Theresa would not give away the winning system if it meant feeding the hungry.  

[cilxeskyd]

@ MIKE,
Sorry to contradict you, but I know there are lots of successful professional roulette players out there.    These pros.    work to a plan or some formula of some sort.    I know quite a few of them and they do not give anything away.   

Guilty as charged.  . 

Actually, a professional roulette player, like myself, is just an amateur who didn't quit.  .  !

[Mike]

Anyone who claims to be a roulette "professional" is either a dreamer or a scammer.  I admit the possibility there may be a few Advantage Players but no one can win long-term using math and statistics. If you are the person who left that comment Gizmotron it's not surprising you haven't had a reply, the real physics guys have obviously dismissed you as an idiot.

[cilxeskyd]

Anyone who claims to be a roulette "professional" is either a dreamer or a scammer.   I admit the possibility there may be a few Advantage Players but no one can win long-term using math and statistics.  If you are the person who left that comment Gizmotron it's not surprising you haven't had a reply, the real physics guys have obviously dismissed you as an idiot.

Back up sonny, and let me make my money. . !

FYI, the best thing in every noble dream is the dreamer. .

Now, would you kindly elaborate on what an 'Advantage Player' is. . ?

Are they the same as 'Disadvantaged Gamblers' by any chance. . ?

lol

[John Gold]

Roulette has being going on for over 200 years in it's current state.
So logically that means if a winning method exists, it has always existed for all that time.
So considering some people have spent their life studying the game, you have to say if there is a way, then surely someone has stumbled on it by now. Is it possible that maybe a few obscure people have took the secret to the grave with them prior to the boom of the internet. Nowadays there is as much disinformation floating about the net just to muddy the waters. Why would some people deem that necessary if there was nothing to worry about.
A lot of people have a vested interest in controlling your thoughts. Only the free thinkers would be able to work out what's what and they certainly would not share it with a bunch of parasites and vultures. In fact they would probably take the pi** like gizmotron does. But whatever floats your boat eh.  

[Mr J]

"would you kindly elaborate on what an 'Advantage Player' is." >>> The question should be....IN THEORY, what is an advantage player?  Ken

[CASINO-PLAYER]

It does seem that there are opinions that have derived from some pot-smoking bar in here or children. They are certainly not based on facts from real casino situations. Many before me have said the posters here (and KEN) never grace a real casino. I am beginning to believe that.

[Mr J]

Like I said....when I was banned at RF, I NEVER went back under a new name. Just not my thing I guess.  Ken

[Mr J]

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