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The Grail of Randomness

Started by crackers, March 30, 2012, 02:11:16 PM

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Robeenhuut

Quote from: cheese on April 02, 2012, 12:17:46 AM
You'll notice that a dozen that hits like 7-8 out
of 10 spins in all likelihood will sleep for awhile, making
the other dozens hot. This is often a good clue to
use instead of just waiting for a dozen to obviously
sleep. It doesn't work all the time, but it works often
enough. As often as anything else.

Hello Cheese

Yeah if you right you make few quick wins in a row. And the other dozen you bet on might become hot too.

Regards

crackers

Quote from: cheese on April 02, 2012, 12:17:46 AM
You'll notice that a dozen that hits like 7-8 out
of 10 spins in all likelihood will sleep for awhile, making
the other dozens hot. This is often a good clue to
use instead of just waiting for a dozen to obviously
sleep. It doesn't work all the time, but it works often
enough. As often as anything else.

Gamblers fallacy is no substitute for the condition actually occurring. The proper method, when it comes to randomness, is to observe what conditions are actually occurring. You bet on conditions that when they continue you win. Reading that something tends to be due is another bet selection process. Especially this one suggested by cheese.

cheese

The advantage to betting after a dozen has 7-8 hits is
you often get in on the bottom a sleeping dozen instead
of getting in on the middle. Also if a dozen is hitting that
often, it means another dozen has been sleeping. Its all
connected together, its takes a long time to get the
rhythm of it. There are no rules in random outcomes,
change is the only constant.

crackers

Quote from: cheese on April 02, 2012, 05:27:28 PM
... Its all
connected together, its takes a long time to get the
rhythm of it. There are no rules in random outcomes,
change is the only constant.

Truer words where never written. You can use many methods that target randomness. The important feature to find is in finding the randomness that is working. That's when you put your money on the table. The bet selection process is only the tool. It's like detection equipment for roulette. Once you've found the randomness that is working it is then that you use your flat bets or your MM that best fits the working conditions.

cheese

Quote from: crackers on April 03, 2012, 11:45:52 AM
Once you've found the randomness that is working

I don't know what this means. The randomness is
always 'working', its always unfolding. You have
to understand what its telling you at all times, or
you're doomed to failure.

crackers

Quote from: cheese on April 04, 2012, 05:01:04 AM
I don't know what this means. The randomness is
always 'working', its always unfolding. You have
to understand what its telling you at all times, or
you're doomed to failure.
I know what it's telling me. The point is can I show others? People give up on it because part of randomness deals with times that the reading of it momentarily triggers stretches of increased losses. Of course randomness is always working. What is not always working is the bet selections are not always cooperating. That alone is information about randomness too. One of the most powerful things you can learn about randomness is that when it is not One thing then it must be something else. That leads to knowing what the conditions are. If you know what they are you can use that knowledge to your advantage.

cheese

Quote from: crackers on April 04, 2012, 12:04:39 PM
I know what it's telling me. The point is can I show others?

No, the point is can I show the casino so I can
get paid. Screw 'others', let them find it on
their own.

bombus

Quote from: cheese on April 04, 2012, 04:41:06 PM
No, the point is can I show the casino so I can
get paid. Screw 'others', let them find it on
their own.

LOL!
Thanks for the help cheese.   :lol:

Looks like we've run out of cheese. I think we're going to need more crackers!  :lol:

TwoCatSam

whine goes good with cheese and crackers!

MiniBaccarat

G'day,

I usually have a wine (Merlot) before a whine!

(I miss Nathen Detroit and His wittiness)

Glenn.

crackers

Quote from: TwoCatSam on April 04, 2012, 07:24:38 PM
whine goes good with cheese and crackers!

No need for whine. I happen to know from experience that teaching a
few interested people - that everything will not rapidly come crashing down.
I'm going to prove it too. When cheese said that you must get into the Rhythm
of this in order to succeed. He gave it all away. I would say that you need to
get in synchronization with what is currently happening. Never the less you must
first learn how to use the basic tools. After that comes using them in sinc. The reason
there is no danger of wrecking everything is that it takes years of practice and experience
to become a danger to any casino.

crackers

Basic Tools

Sticking with double doz/com/whatever bets, there's the streaks of singles in series occasions to look for. Here is a very common tool. When there is no streak of singles and at the same time there is no sleeper. As long as that condition continues you can almost guess with certainty the absence of singles & sleepers. It's easy to see in properly formatted charts.

Nathan Detroit

Quote from: crackers on April 05, 2012, 01:56:42 PM
Basic Tools

Sticking with double doz/com/whatever bets, there's the streaks of singles in series occasions to look for. Here is a very common tool. When there is no streak of singles and at the same time there is no sleeper. As long as that condition continues you can almost guess with certainty the absence of singles & sleepers. It's easy to see in properly formatted charts.

WOW !  What`s next ?

Nathan Detroit

crackers

It's one thing to get good at reading the features and characteristics of randomness. It's entirely another thing discussing using this as a bet selection process. There is a disconnect that must be addressed. This will not come easy for anyone that has little experience with the tools.

crackers

There's one thing to keep in mind. The key tactic is to win on anything that continues. Any time you get a loss that is an indication that the condition changed. There is one outcome that ends the condition. It can only lose on the first attempted bet once. It can go on winning for many spins. On each individual spin the odds are the same. Yet you can only lose the first attempt once.

There are ways to win the first bet and still keep the seven stepped positive progression going with no risk. In the example back a few pages the bets are 10 &10. If you place a first bet of 30 & 30 then on your next bet you place a bet of 15 & 15. You've pocketed your original first bet and you are at step two of the progression. You take that step on the winnings of the first bet.

crackers

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