Good evening all.
I wanted to put forward my idea at the moment regarding bank roll management and have some feedback. I am currently on William Hill. My thinking is consisting around Flat Betting on a particular Street after 15 - 18 spins. I would then look for the Street that has had 2 of the 3 hit, then cover all three equally.
I have checked the table limits (Current table) and the maximum Flat Bet is £100. I have therefore put together this table of progession; (Is in the attachment)
As you can see, it could cover 47 spins. After the 47th spin - You've hit the table maximum. I would like to put forward now that I currently have a BR of £422.00. While the table is in £1, you can see that to cover 47 spins and you're needing a balance of £1167.00.
From these figures I'd have;
Maximum Winnings; £33
Minimum Winnings; £3
Spins covered; 35
BR needed (All I have £422.00); £399.00
The minimum Flat Bet is £0.10, so if I was to take that into account and divide/multiply everything on that table by 10, I'd have:
Maximum Winnings; £3.30
Minimum Winnings; £0.30
Spins Covered; 470
BR needed; £116.70
In my opinion, covering 470 spins is a bit excessive so I was thinking closer to Flat Betting £.50, giving me figures of;
Maximum Winnings; £16.50
Minimum Winnings; £1.50
Spins Covered; 94
BR needed; £583.50
I also have access to a table limit of £.50/£200.00 on the Flat Bet. I just wanted some feedback to see if my math's are a mess, if the idea on this bank roll management wold not work etc. In regards to being happy to make a minimum of £1.50 - I'm happy as long as I am up and being responsible. These small bet sizes are something I only see online and really am trying to take advantage of them.
Thanks for taking the time to read this!
Chez
I dont get if you are trying to flat bet or want a progression?
you are betting 3 numbers, right?
the standard progression for 3 numbers and a 1000 unit BR is:
Spin Ratio 35:1 Spent/Overall 35:1
1 bet 1 3 / 3 33
2 bet 1 6 / 6 30
3 bet 1 9 / 9 27
4 bet 1 12 / 12 24
5 bet 1 15 / 15 21
6 bet 1 18 / 18 18
7 bet 1 21 / 21 15
8 bet 1 24 / 24 12
9 bet 1 27 / 27 9
10 bet 1 30 / 30 6
11 bet 1 33 / 33 3
12 bet 2 39 / 39 33
13 bet 2 45 / 45 27
14 bet 2 51 / 51 21
15 bet 2 57 / 57 15
16 bet 2 63 / 63 9
17 bet 2 69 / 69 3
18 bet 3 78 / 78 30
19 bet 3 87 / 87 21
20 bet 3 96 / 96 12
21 bet 3 105 / 105 3
22 bet 4 117 / 117 27
23 bet 4 129 / 129 15
24 bet 4 141 / 141 3
25 bet 5 156 / 156 24
26 bet 5 171 / 171 9
27 bet 6 189 / 189 27
28 bet 6 207 / 207 9
29 bet 7 228 / 228 24
30 bet 7 249 / 249 3
31 bet 8 273 / 273 15
32 bet 9 300 / 300 24
33 bet 10 330 / 330 30
34 bet 11 363 / 363 33
35 bet 12 399 / 399 33
36 bet 13 438 / 438 30
37 bet 14 480 / 480 24
38 bet 15 525 / 525 15
39 bet 16 573 / 573 3
40 bet 18 627 / 627 21
41 bet 20 687 / 687 33
42 bet 21 750 / 750 6
43 bet 23 819 / 819 9
44 bet 25 894 / 894 6
45 bet 28 978 / 978 30
you can do your own at loothog.com
if you want to flatbet it that's another story
you made a typo I pressume with 470 spins?
and I dont get the last one with 94 spins :scratch_ones_head:
Quote from: soggett on January 30, 2013, 07:04:09 AM
I dont get if you are trying to flat bet or want a progression?
you are betting 3 numbers, right?
Yea, covering an entire street
the standard progression for 3 numbers and a 1000 unit BR is:
Spin Ratio 35:1 Spent/Overall 35:1
1 bet 1 3 / 3 33
2 bet 1 6 / 6 30
3 bet 1 9 / 9 27
4 bet 1 12 / 12 24
5 bet 1 15 / 15 21
6 bet 1 18 / 18 18
7 bet 1 21 / 21 15
8 bet 1 24 / 24 12
9 bet 1 27 / 27 9
10 bet 1 30 / 30 6
11 bet 1 33 / 33 3
12 bet 2 39 / 39 33
13 bet 2 45 / 45 27
14 bet 2 51 / 51 21
15 bet 2 57 / 57 15
16 bet 2 63 / 63 9
17 bet 2 69 / 69 3
18 bet 3 78 / 78 30
19 bet 3 87 / 87 21
20 bet 3 96 / 96 12
21 bet 3 105 / 105 3
22 bet 4 117 / 117 27
23 bet 4 129 / 129 15
24 bet 4 141 / 141 3
25 bet 5 156 / 156 24
26 bet 5 171 / 171 9
27 bet 6 189 / 189 27
28 bet 6 207 / 207 9
29 bet 7 228 / 228 24
30 bet 7 249 / 249 3
31 bet 8 273 / 273 15
32 bet 9 300 / 300 24
33 bet 10 330 / 330 30
34 bet 11 363 / 363 33
35 bet 12 399 / 399 33
36 bet 13 438 / 438 30
37 bet 14 480 / 480 24
38 bet 15 525 / 525 15
39 bet 16 573 / 573 3
40 bet 18 627 / 627 21
41 bet 20 687 / 687 33
42 bet 21 750 / 750 6
43 bet 23 819 / 819 9
44 bet 25 894 / 894 6
45 bet 28 978 / 978 30
The above is on $1 units right? It would then be a BR of 489 for $.5 units? Currently I'm using $.04 units with a BR of $500
you can do your own at loothog.com
if you want to flatbet it that's another story
This is where my rookie status comes - I thought flat betting was the same a straight up bet on a number
you made a typo I pressume with 470 spins?
This was me just putting my maths down on paper. Say you're using $1 units, you can cover 47 spins before you hit $99/ go bust per number (Maximum is $100 per number) Now if you're you use $.1 units, it would take you 470 spins to go bust/ hit $99 per number. Was just me thinking out loud.
and I dont get the last one with 94 spins :scratch_ones_head:
Again, me putting thoughts down on paper - $1 units cover 47 spins before going bust/ hitting maximum bet, so $.5 units would give you the time to cover 94 spins before reach maximum bet/ going bust
Please see all responses in bold. :)
Chez
Quote from: BCShad0w on January 30, 2013, 03:59:12 PM
Please see all responses in bold. :)
Chez
In regards to the 470 spins and 94 spins, this would not work, as progression would be different. Scrap my thoughts in my original post :)!
Chez
ok, I got the most part
don't worry cause you are new, we have all been there
the table I posted is in units so you can use whatever you like
you asked for $0.4
then that is your 1 unit
and when you have to bet 1 unit you bet $0.4, when you have to bet 2 units you bet $0.8, do you get it?
1 unit can be $1, and it can be $50, depends on your BR
and loothog will tell you in units, you cant change that
flatbetting is when you dont change the stake - meaning you always put the same amount of money
if you are using ie $1 then you would bet $3 per spin ( $1 on each number ) every spin till you end your session
so you don't change the amount bet
now if you use a progression then your amount bet changes (usually so you are in plus when you hit)
hope it is a bit clearer, english is not my first language so ask away if there is something you dont get
btw you can bet a street instead of 3 numbers, that way the BR required will be lower but you will also win less
ie, the progression for 1 street is:
Spin Ratio 11:1 Spent/Overall 11:1
1 bet 1 1 / 1 11
2 bet 1 2 / 2 10
3 bet 1 3 / 3 9
4 bet 1 4 / 4 8
5 bet 1 5 / 5 7
6 bet 1 6 / 6 6
7 bet 1 7 / 7 5
8 bet 1 8 / 8 4
9 bet 1 9 / 9 3
10 bet 1 10 / 10 2
11 bet 1 11 / 11 1
12 bet 2 13 / 13 11
13 bet 2 15 / 15 9
14 bet 2 17 / 17 7
15 bet 2 19 / 19 5
16 bet 2 21 / 21 3
17 bet 2 23 / 23 1
18 bet 3 26 / 26 10
19 bet 3 29 / 29 7
20 bet 3 32 / 32 4
21 bet 3 35 / 35 1
22 bet 4 39 / 39 9
23 bet 4 43 / 43 5
24 bet 4 47 / 47 1
25 bet 5 52 / 52 8
26 bet 5 57 / 57 3
27 bet 6 63 / 63 9
28 bet 6 69 / 69 3
29 bet 7 76 / 76 8
30 bet 7 83 / 83 1
31 bet 8 91 / 91 5
32 bet 9 100 / 100 8
33 bet 10 110 / 110 10
34 bet 11 121 / 121 11
35 bet 12 133 / 133 11
36 bet 13 146 / 146 10
37 bet 14 160 / 160 8
38 bet 15 175 / 175 5
39 bet 16 191 / 191 1
40 bet 18 209 / 209 7
41 bet 20 229 / 229 11
42 bet 21 250 / 250 2
43 bet 23 273 / 273 3
44 bet 25 298 / 298 2
45 bet 28 326 / 326 10
46 bet 30 356 / 356 4
47 bet 33 389 / 389 7
48 bet 36 425 / 425 7
49 bet 39 464 / 464 4
50 bet 43 507 / 507 9
51 bet 47 554 / 554 10
52 bet 51 605 / 605 7
53 bet 56 661 / 661 11
54 bet 61 722 / 722 10
55 bet 66 788 / 788 4
56 bet 72 860 / 860 4
57 bet 79 939 / 939 9
so it takes less money for the same 45 spins or you can use the same 1000 units and get a bit more spins
just be careful cause a street can sleep for a long time