HOW TO WIN AT ROULETTE *THE BALANCE OF 5*

[atlantis]

Thanks George, Fender1000.

I am happy you are liking this idea. Let's hope it continues to deliver. 60pts on rng fender  

This longer session includes 2 losing progressions - but still a profit of +15 was achieved. Note that after the first losing game a PARTIAL recovery was made (using the same prog) to +7. Could have stopped there... After the second loss occurred the recovery was again made and I played on to take +15 total win)

CASINO BERLIN 13 MAY 2010 -Table 2
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[table=,]
Spin,Number,Type,Bet Unit,Win,Loss,Net,Unit Bal.,Bet Layout
1,32,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
2,5,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
3,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
4,26,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
5,20,Bet,1,3,-1,2,502,1 : 2nd Dozen **WON
6,5,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
7,7,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
8,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
9,35,Bet,1,3,-1,2,504,1 : 3rd Dozen **WON
10,5,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
11,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
12,22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
13,27,Bet,1,3,-1,2,506,1 : Column C **WON
14,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
15,17,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,505,1 : 1st Dozen
16,5,No Bet,0,0,0,0,505,
17,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,505,
18,27,Bet,2,6,-2,4,509,2 : Column C **WON
19,18,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,508,1 : Column A
20,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,508,
21,13,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,506,2 : Column B
22,8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
23,24,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,503,3 : 3rd Dozen
24,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
25,8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
26,9,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,499,4 : Column A **LOST (-1 at this point)
27,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
28,29,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,498,1 : 2nd Dozen
29,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
30,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
31,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
32,22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
33,1,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
34,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
35,26,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
36,0,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,496,2 : Column C
37,17,Bet,3,9,-3,6,502,3 : 2nd Dozen **WON
38,10,Bet,1,3,-1,2,504,1 : 1st Dozen **WON
39,17,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
40,19,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,503,1 : 3rd Dozen
41,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
42,5,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
43,1,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
44,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
45,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
46,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
47,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
48,2,Bet,2,6,-2,4,507,2 : 1st Dozen **WON
49,3,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,506,1 : 2nd Dozen
50,36,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
51,13,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
52,7,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
53,28,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,504,2 : Column B
54,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
55,17,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
56,16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
57,1,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
58,5,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,501,3 : 3rd Dozen
59,5,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,497,4 : Column C **LOST (-3 at this point)
60,9,No Bet,0,0,0,0,497,
61,19,Bet,1,3,-1,2,499,1 : 2nd Dozen **WON
62,21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
63,6,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
64,17,Bet,1,3,-1,2,501,1 : Column B **WON
65,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
66,24,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,500,1 : Column A
67,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
68,16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
69,20,Bet,2,6,-2,4,504,2 : Column B **WON
70,29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
71,18,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
72,17,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,503,1 : 1st Dozen
73,22,Bet,2,6,-2,4,507,2 : Column A **WON
74,29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,507,
75,34,No Bet,0,0,0,0,507,
76,17,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,506,1 : Column C
77,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
78,2,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
79,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
80,8,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,504,2 : 3rd Dozen
81,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
82,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
83,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
84,13,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
85,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
86,29,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,501,3 : Column C
87,12,Bet,4,12,-4,8,509,4 : 1st Dozen **WON
88,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,509,
89,2,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,508,1 : Column A
90,12,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,506,2 : 2nd Dozen
91,26,Bet,3,9,-3,6,512,3 : 3rd Dozen **WON
92,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,512,
93,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,512,
94,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,512,
95,1,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,511,1 : Column C
96,3,No Bet,0,0,0,0,511,
97,13,No Bet,0,0,0,0,511,
98,35,Bet,2,6,-2,4,515,2 : Column B **WON
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Profit +15

14 games WON ; 2 games LOST

Cheers,
A.

[moles40]

Atlantis on the 5 th spin are you betting on the dozen that has missed 4 times in a row,or are you betting on the 2 dozens. I cant seem to work out what it is

[TwoCatSam]

Hoooooboy, fender1000, you really put me on the spot with this one:  "Okay Sam explain this. Why have I been dodging this bullet for over 10 years then?"

I would not stoop so low as to call anyone a liar or question their credibility.  But let me tell you a story..........

There was once a fellow on this forum who claimed to be the "Anointed One of Roulette".  He led us around for about two years and when people began trying to pin him down, his answer was to just "go with the flow" or "watch what is happening" and tripe like that.  I spent probably hundreds of hours studying his method only to find that it was hogwash.

Sure, you could win a lot using a monster progression but then the "run from hell" would come and wipe you out.  It always does!  It is as sure as sunrise.

fender, I can post you a movie of me winning a goodly sum of money.  I can start three days from now, so you won't have to wonder if I faked it.  I'll have to use Dublin as it's the only real wheel I can see--being American.  I could use this and any other videos to go on E-bay and sell roulette systems.  (I don't need money and I don't want to have to worry who rings my doorbell!)

The system will fail!  It may rack up thousands of dollars in profit using flat betting and then it will fail.  I once walked into a casino in Nevada and won on 32 on the first bet using it.  The dealer claimed that she had never seen such.

And it will fail!!

Sam

[atlantis]

Atlantis on the 5 th spin are you betting on the dozen that has missed 4 times in a row,or are you betting on the 2 dozens. I cant seem to work out what it is

That's right moles - am betting only on ONE doz or col - so I bet the dozen that missed exactly 4 times in a row for ONE spin only! (5th) and the second dozen duly obliged. I won 2 PTS. Reset progression. The next qualifier is the 3rd Doz on Spin 8 (it has missed exactly 4 times) -  so I bet that for 1 unit. It also won on the ( ZONE entry point; 5th)  for +2 PTS gain.


A.

[gizmotron]

There was once a fellow on this forum who claimed to be the "Anointed One of Roulette". 

Sam, your stories always start out great. That was funny.

[Spike!]

The system will fail!  It may rack up thousands of dollars in profit using flat betting and then it will fail. >>>

Its the freakish nature of random. Its why I can see a certain pattern end the same way 9 out of 10 times in a 6 week period and then see it end another way 9 times out of 10 for the next 6 weeks. That pattern is a micro system and just when you think you've got the Grail, it goes south on you and you're up the creek again. Thats why it takes so long to understand random, its more fickle than a 16 year old girl..

[Herb6]

ok, I bet no one in the world can answer me this, if roulette is unbeatable, why are there rigged rnd machines? an honest rng would beat you just like a human dealer would!

Wow, it should really be a crime to be this stupid.

[gizmotron]

EXACTLY! LETS SEE THE NEGS ANWSER THAT ONE.

Let's see the POS's answer that one.

[TwoCatSam]

There are rigged RNGs because human beings are greedy.  That is, IF there are rigged RNGs; I have no proof there are.

Imagine this:  You are allowed to go down into the ocean and attach gold bars to your belt.  Once on, they cannot be taken off!!  Hard to get to the gold bars anymore.  Too many skeletons! 
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fender1000

Your enthusiasm is truly making me want to dust off the old clipboard and start testing your method.  I can see the wheel at Riverbelle Live.  Is that one good enough?

One last question:  Why do you only use dozens?  Why not columns or dozens--whichever misses nine times?

I don't mean to be harsh, but so much of what you write just doesn't pass the "smell test"!  The dozen/column thing is one of them.  Twelve numbers is twelve numbers.  No?

Sam

[Herb6]

Show me his progression and I can tell you:

1.How many spins he's actually played.
2.How often his scheme will lose.
3.How much you will lose every 1,000 spins where bets are actually placed.

[atlantis]

Hi,

When testing the balance of five variant I use rXtreme with the doz/col stats open and consult the "Spins Last Appeared" column to check for a qualifying doz/col (exactly 4 misses)
In image below it is the 3rd dozen:



Far easier than hand recording and a lot quicker when testing random or imported real casino spins.

A.

[WARRIOR]

There are rigged RNGs because human beings are greedy.  That is, IF there are rigged RNGs; I have no proof there are.

Imagine this:  You are allowed to go down into the ocean and attach gold bars to your belt.  Once on, they cannot be taken off!!  Hard to get to the gold bars anymore.  Too many skeletons! 
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fender1000

Your enthusiasm is truly making me want to dust off the old clipboard and start testing your method.  I can see the wheel at Riverbelle Live.  Is that one good enough?

One last question:  Why do you only use dozens?  Why not columns or dozens--whichever misses nine times?

I don't mean to be harsh, but so much of what you write just doesn't pass the "smell test"!  The dozen/column thing is one of them.  Twelve numbers is twelve numbers.  No?

SamTWO CAT my vey first post on FENDER I said this guy know's what he's  talking about, i read about his method way before he came here,at least he put his methods on the line, more then i can say for some web sights on the internet and other induviduals on here , and i to was sceptical but im not a CYNIC FENDER THANK YOU AGAIN MY FRIEND, IF I LOSE IT'S BECAUSE OF MY GREED NOT MY NEED.

[atlantis]

Atlantis, I don't know if I am even playing this cross game the way you are. What I do know is I have now played 4 sessions at Ladbrokes premier RNG roulette. And WON THEM ALL. The RNG simply cannot produce long losing streaks on both the columns and DOZENS in the same time/game frame. I think we have found the anwser to beating RNGS over short sessions Atlantis. KUDOS TO YOU. I think the American members of this forum need to know this strategy. I am going to draft it as I have been playing it later today. IT SIMPLY WORKS...

Hi Fender, Good. It will be so very interesting to see your draft as how you have been playing it. You are probably playing it more correctly and *safer* than I am. In this regard I have some more recent actual spin results for you:

CASINO WIESBADEN 14 MAY 2010 - Table 3
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93 spins -9 (3 losing progressions)
+9 before lost first progression then recovered to +11 before lost second progression then recovered to +1 before losing third and final progression.

CASINO WIESBADEN 14 MAY 2010 - Table 4
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86 spins -2 (3 losing progressions)
+14 before lost first progression recovered to +6 before lost second progression then recovered to +8 before losing third and final progression.

CASINO WIESBADEN 14 MAY 2010 - Table 8
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44 spins -20 (3 losing progressions)
+6 before first losing progression; recovered to level before losing second progression -10; lost third progression

CASINO WIESBADEN 14 MAY 2010 - Table 9
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84 spins +15 (2 losing progressions)
+5 before losing first progression recovered to +1 before losing second progression; recovered to end at +15

I'm not too disappointed as this thing is still in early stages - I had been aiming for +15 each session.
You will note in each case a profit was made before a progression loss - and then a recovery was made.
Analyzing these results maybe I need to change the rule to stop after 2 progression losses instead of three?
And possibly aim to be satisfied with a smaller profit gain (play less time) ? Do more virtual play?
Anyhow I think 2 independent sessions of +4 per day is achievable 


A.

[atlantis]

Hi Fender and all following this.

These results I posted earlier:

CASINO WIESBADEN 14 MAY 2010 - Table 3
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93 spins -9 (3 losing progressions)
+9 before lost first progression then recovered to +11 before lost second progression then recovered to +1 before losing third and final progression.

CASINO WIESBADEN 14 MAY 2010 - Table 4
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86 spins -2 (3 losing progressions)
+14 before lost first progression recovered to +6 before lost second progression then recovered to +8 before losing third and final progression.

CASINO WIESBADEN 14 MAY 2010 - Table 8
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44 spins -20 (3 losing progressions)
+6 before first losing progression; recovered to level before losing second progression -10; lost third progression

CASINO WIESBADEN 14 MAY 2010 - Table 9
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84 spins +15 (2 losing progressions)
+5 before losing first progression recovered to +1 before losing second progression; recovered to end at +15

I have replayed those same sessions with slightly different progression and am proud to announce these results:

CASINO WIESBADEN 14 MAY 2010 - Table 3
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+16 in 110 spins. Highest bet 4

CASINO WIESBADEN 14 MAY 2010 - Table 4
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+15 in 73 spins. Highest bet 4

CASINO WIESBADEN 14 MAY 2010 - Table 8
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+16 in 124 spins. Highest bet 6

CASINO WIESBADEN 14 MAY 2010 - Table 9
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+16 in 76 spins. Highest bet 4


TOTAL PROFIT = +63 PTS

Can you guess how I done that? HINT: Answer in my earlier posts...
Because of the high strike rate - this sure now looks the way to go!!

An excited Atlantis.  

[atlantis]

Atlantis you have got this thing down haven't you. I cannot see you tanking as long as you behave yourself and don't rush it. Even the crossplay at Ladbrokes rng is kicking Ass Atlantis. I have now won 9 mimi sessions. It simply cannot deal with cross-bets and dual bets on a dozen and column at the same time. I think we have both come up with something strong over this DOZEN/COLUMN thing. Kudos to you. Wish Scooby was back on here its time he started making some cash with these.

Hi Fender - Here are my full revised instructions.

BALANCE OF FIVE - [atlantis variation]

I am playing on single 0 wheel.

Any dozen or column that has missed for EXACTLY 4 spins is a qualifying proposition.

Begin session by waiting for ANY doz/col to miss exactly 4 times then bet that qualifier ONLY on the NEXT SPIN ONLY. (we want it to HIT after sleeping for 4 consecutive spins)

If it happens that a dozen and a column both qualify, I elect to choose the dozen only. (in agreement with fender's choice)
If 2 different doz's qualify - no bet
If 2 different col's qualify - no bet

You only bet on the qualifying single doz. (or col)
Therefore you NEVER bet more than one dozen or col at ANY TIME.

You only bet the qualifying doz or col for ONE spin ONLY (5th spin; the famous ZONE entry point)

Win or lose you then wait for next qualifier before betting at the next "appropriate" stage of the progression.
(or the first stage of the progression if the progression was reset due to the last win bringing the bank balance to level or ahead of your current highest recorded profit figure)
If you win or are level at any time as set out above, all well and good, simply restart the whole progression from the beginning again ie. the first bet of 1 unit.

A qualifier is a dozen or column that misses for exactly 4 consecutive spins.

Progression String: Labouchere (for Dozens)
1,1,2,2,3,3,4,4,5,5,6,6,7,7,8,8 etc. etc...

IMPORTANT:
Whenever you get a winning game - and if you are not at least level with your highest recorded profit - then (and this is the key) drop down 2 stages in the progression to calculate what your next bet is to be
eg: if you won on the second bet of 4 and you are still behind then your next bet will be the second bet of 3. Lose that and your next bet on the next coming qualifier would be the first bet of 4 units.
Just follow the progression string from that point as indicated.

Remember, when you are LEVEL to your current recorded highest total or you reach a NEW highest profit; restart the progression from the start.

If zero occurs on a bet it is counted as a losing bet as normal - just go on to the next bet in the progression.

Aim to win 4 units each SESSION. It is achievable!

You will likely find that your betting pattern will alternate between cols and dozs as you only bet each qualifier ONCE before searching out the next qualifier.

Cheers,
Atlantis.

[atlantis]

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