VERSION 333

[TwoCatSam]

I will say one thing........

While betting, I counted the bets until win.  Sometimes at bet 4 a win would occur and the software would say won a 7 or some such.  Saw it several times.

Seemed to win a lot.

Sam

[hermes]

Right sam, bjb007 did it his way. Holy stubbornness.
He likes the example: Line A 9 #s canceled, line B 11 #s canceled, the good line is the A line, what is BS. The good line is the line B. Play always the line where are more numbers crossed but bet the uncross sleepers in that line not the crossed one! That's the right tactic. Read the bold sentence again. No wonder people are losing. The line which comes more often in 24 spins will come more often during the next spins also. It is application of 2/3 and 1/3 law, and a few drunk Jesuits.
Hermes

[TwoCatSam]

So the software is wrong and we should not use it?

[bjb007]

Right sam, bjb007 did it his way. Holy stubbornness.
He likes the example: Line A 9 #s canceled, line B 11 #s canceled, the good line is the A line, what is BS. The good line is the line B. Play always the line where are more numbers crossed but bet the uncross sleepers in that line not the crossed one! That's the right tactic. Read the bold sentence again. No wonder people are losing. The line which comes more often in 24 spins will come more often during the next spins also. It is application of 2/3 and 1/3 law, and a few drunk Jesuits.
Hermes

Not sure I get this.  If I load 24 numbers the color of the
buttons of the unhit numbers are hilited.

Is that wrong?  Or are you saying that when Group A is indicated
it should be Group B?

[hermes]

That's not what matters. If group A has 11 hits in 24 spins and the group B 9 hits it should recommend to bet on the unhited numbers of the group A (not the crossed one).
Hermes

[TwoCatSam]

hermes

If I understand it, you chart 24 numbers and look at the "side" that's been hit the most.  Now toss the other side out.  Now bet the numbers on the side you have left which have not been hit.

That's the way I'm understanding it.

Sam

[benfica]

i understand the system the same way its in software i tryed on paper and on software and it give me same numbers to bet
here a db permanence  7 - 35 - 21 - 33 - 34 - 4 - 13 - 28 - 21 - 13 - 19 - 19 -11 - 10 - 2 - 24 - 35 - 11 - 31 - 9 - 12 - 23 - 21 - 32

we bet 6 - 8 - 15 - 17 - 25 - 27 - 30 - 36
since group b hit 15 times and this are the numbers of the group that didnt show up
i understant this this way
can you correct this hermes please

[bjb007]

Common sense says to bet on the numbers of
the group with fewer hits...

And from some testing it looks as though it
will produce better results.  Will test further.

On a small test of WB spins and
total hits to a group at the time
of starting the bet....

A wins when less than B --- 47
A wins when more than B ---39
B wins when less than A.......66
B wins when more than A......32

The % of "smaller than" wins was 64% after 117 wins
but dropped to 60% after 179 wins.

I expect it would continue to fall given enough
test spins.

[hermes]

Benfica, wrong. The group A has a 10 hits and the group B has an 8 hits therefore we bet the unhit numbers from the group A and they are:1-5-4-15-16-17-20-25 = 8 unhit Jesuits from the group A.
Sam you confused me completely. Study Benfica example thoroughly. It is homework.
bjb007 I don't see any common sense in your reasoning. Common stubbornness, yes.
Hermes

[TwoCatSam]

OK, hermes, is this right.......?

We have sides A and B.  A has the most hits after 24 spins.  For the moment we disregard B as we are only interested in A.  Looking at the A numbers only, we bet those who have not been hit.

Is that it?

If not, I'm lost.

Sam

[benfica]

now im realy lost here hermes say to bet on 4 but 4 has already hit on the 24 numbers permanence and he says to bet this numbers from group A but this dont match with the groups that are posted
1  A
5  A
4  B
15 B
16 A
17 B
20 A
25 B

[Kingspin]

i understand the system the same way its in software I tryed on paper and on software and it give me same numbers to bet
here a db permanence  7 - 35 - 21 - 33 - 34 - 4 - 13 - 28 - 21 - 13 - 19 - 19 -11 - 10 - 2 - 24 - 35 - 11 - 31 - 9 - 12 - 23 - 21 - 32

we bet 6 - 8 - 15 - 17 - 25 - 27 - 30 - 36
since group b hit 15 times and this are the numbers of the group that didnt show up
i understant this this way
can you correct this hermes please

I concur with your results , thats the numbers I would play according to how hermes states things. Now for some more testing.  I actually played this system for real money starting with a £200 bankroll for £1 chips. Bankroll too small I know so don't tell me off for it, should have been double that .  I did 4 sessions 1 hour apart , I need a rest between sessions with this system     .  I made about £45 profit over the first three sessions - so far so good. On my fourth session I had a set of five numbers to bet ,so as usual I  started and betted with confidence.
I hit a stubborn session on this fourth session and the set of 5 numbers missed god knows how many times but the profit I had made from the previous sessions soon went , I was on a draw down at this point I had 2 options either use progression or quit , I decided to quit as I had a feeling the number set was going to miss a lot more. My personal opinion of this system is that in actual play the game can go good with hits coming within 5 spins or less depending on how many numbers are betted -other times your numbers miss for what seems like ages with progression the only way out. My 5 number selection missed at least 12 times.   The 333 system  can it seems go bad on you with some progression needed to make a profit at times. Play it just flat bets and I would loose patience I am sure.  I am going to test it some more in fun chip mode to get a feel for it.  I got a gut feeling this system is risky.  Story end well - My session finished up about +£130 profit  as I placed a £5 bet on number 5 and it hit so I went away happy and with draw the winnings. It would be nice if some one could post some results about this system. It's a bit of a time consumer testing in real play situations as I don't use betting history charts  as they don't give you the gut feeling about a system in my opinion. I will do a few fun chip sessions again today and post the results in a day or 2. I think it is worth testing.

[hermes]

Sorry benfica, the two old fellow screwed me up and I screwed you up, it's called chain reaction. I have the old Diodoro columns next to my for comparison and I put your numbers into his columns. With Diodoro columns you would bet that what I proposal but with my revision and with my formation of the columns you would have to bet 6-8-15-17-25-30-36 because column A had 8 hits and column B 11 hits. You bet the unhit numbers from the column B.
Everything what happens happens for reason, and everything what happens benefits us completely. That's common sense. Everything what happens has a common sense in it, otherwise it would not happen. People who suffer on the spiritual malabsorption disease (it is epidemics!) would say "but it suppose to be like that" what's wrong. Only that suppose to be what already happened.
Again, sorry for confusing too many readers, but it suppose to be like that, therefore I am happy.

I apologize to kingspin because I forget to mention that you don't bet less than 6 numbers and if you are cautious minimum numbers would be 7 to bet - not less. I think that Diodoro mentioned minimum 6? We have to keep greed in jail when we gamble.
The system is not infallible but if you keep the few rules you will win 8 or 9 of 10.
Don't go to gamble with bad gut feelings. That's like going to gamble with affirmation that you will 100% lose. What we are afraid of will catch us sooner or later. Go gamble only if you have a positive attitude. Gambling is matter of the mind and positive attitude protects us from losing a session. I experienced it too many times. One example: I had a bad feeling and was losing left and right than I realized that my attitude is the reason for losing and changed my attitude. I recovered all losses and went home as a winner. Very important is to be in good mood when you are playing craps. When I was stressed out I always lost. When I was stressed out I hammered the 7 outs on me. Murphy's law works only if you are in bad mood and chasing losses. Good mood is better protection against Murphy than prayer. The whole gambling is matter of the mind. Your mind decide if you win or lose. Take control over your mind (Jose Silva Mind Control), get on Alpha Level during playing and everything will change to your benefits. You can even see numbers coming. When I am at alpha during playing craps I get gut warning to take the bets down and in 90% of time I am right. Next 7 outs and everybody is looking at me like I am Buddha, but I am not, I just employ the subconscious mind to work for me.
Hermes

[Clothdog]

when you win, do you keep playing the same unhit numbers or do you count back a new 24 to find the new group?
thanks
cd

[hermes]

CD, never the same numbers after hit, especially not if you bet flat. Take the last 12 numbers and fill it to 24 spins again or collect new 24 (that's the most secure one).
Hermes

[hermes]

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