I don't know if this is the proper place for this thread, but if it isn't I'm sure it will be moved to the appropriate area.
As you all know over the past couple days I have been testing systems that win long term, but they all took an exorbitantly long amount of time to show minimal profits. I have been tweaking and testing and tweaking and testing and this is what I have come up with. I am not going to post any pictures of graphs or anything (as some seem to think they weren't real).
So this is what I've done, I made a video (about 7 minutes long). In the video you'll see me download HomeIto's 700k spins, import them into RXtreme, activate my system, and then let it autorun with the BR Balance Trend on the screen. You'll see all 10k spins (again, takes about 7 minutes) watching it happen. The video can be downloaded here: nolinks://nolinks.mediafire.com/?sharekey=b320ba1087b5a97400d27174b47c665769139a23614713035621d66e282a0ee8
The results were as follows:
Starting BR: 500 units
Ending BR: of 2,500 units (right around there anyway, you'll see in the vid)
Lost Sessions: 0
Won Sessions: Too many to count
Largest Drawdown: 320 units
I am having this system turned into a bot as I type (that's the only reason for me not openly sharing the system right now as I don't want it publicly available for just anyone to waltz into here and take the system)
I will be posting the results of 100k, 500k, 1 million spins here if anybody is interested. The results of those will have to be posted in picture form as the video would be over a gigabyte in size and would take me days to upload.
Nicely Done Rj,
10,000 spins is a much better test sample, but how many times were bets placed in those 10,000 spins?
Keep up the good work.
Matt
The main reason for all the tweaking of the other system I had was because many felt (and they were probably right) that 1 million spins to show a 2,500 unit profit is really just kind of ridiculous. So I needed to come up with something that bet more often and still won just as often.
This is one of the reasons for my being inactive in the forum for the past 72 hours or so. I personally don't care if everybody writes this off as just another goof thinking he came up with something. When I have the bot's programming finished and it is ready to go I will be submitting for testing to the moderators of this forum (as long as they don't disclose it).
At that point I will individually email it to those who want it (and those that are active participants in the forum, not just anybody). It will not be sold (don't worry, I'm not working up to some sales plot. I'll say it again, I'm not going to ever offer this for sale. At least not to you guys, as a lot of you were my source of encouragement and motivators. So thanks!)
Hope you watch the video and give me your input. Thanks guys!
And to Victor or any other moderators: I apologize for my constant linking to either megaupload or mediafire, it's just I can't upload videos anywhere that is inside this forums "walls", otherwise I would.
So if you guys get rid of any link that doesn't link to Vlsroulette.com it would be difficult for me to show them (although maybe nobody's watching them).
Quote from: MattyMattz on May 18, 2009, 03:05:53 PM
Nicely Done Rj,
10,000 spins is a much better test sample, but how many times were bets placed in those 10,000 spins?
Keep up the good work.
Matt
I didn't even see this post matt, but thanks by the way! As far as how many times bets were placed, that's an excellent question. I'll have to count them (but it's going to take me awhile as bets were placed a lot. This wasn't another "go 10,000 spins and place a bet, then wait 10k again" type system. As soon as I finish seeing how many times bets were placed i'll let you know.
I forgot to tell you that the bets are being placed are being done so in an automated fashion (via a .dgt program). That's how it gets through all those spins so quickly.
Hey, really great to hear RJ! I won't be able to watch the video until after 5 pm - but I will definitely check it out. Glad to hear your tweaking provided such amazing results. :thumbsup:
Very interesting and impressive. Keep up the excellent work, RJ.
Cheers,
A.
Thanks Celiza!
Yes, after all this time I finally came up with something that works (this video is not the system I pm'd you about). I made one final adjustment from the video as there was a point where the drawdown was over 800 units. I fixed this problem and it looks as though every one million spins would net around 11 to 12 thousand units.
Right now I am at 110,000 spins and still no loss and a max drawdown of 320 units.
I have attached a snapshot of where the BR balance trend is currently headed. Enjoy!
Oh, and just so everyone knows this is still playing against HomeItos 700,000 spins. However, as stated in the video, I will test this system against anybodys spins (RNG or B&M) and post my results here in the forum.
The best way that I can prove this is still against HomeItos 700k spins is to attach a screenshot of the RXtreme homescreen. You can then match the numbers on the marquee and what spin it's on against Homeitos spins.
Again, I'm only taking these lengths because last time I posted graphs there were some people who thought it wasn't real. Hopefully the video and these snapshots cure that.
I'm guessing that you're looking for "rare events" and then betting with an up as you lose progression.
How many actual bets have you placed? Spins that you just observe don't count.
-Herb
Rj Congratulations for your work. I'm glad to see that your system works, you deserve it.
All the best.
Quote from: Herb on May 18, 2009, 05:20:51 PM
I'm guessing that you're looking for "rare events" and then betting with an up as you lose progression.
How many actual bets have you placed? Spins that you just observe don't count.
-Herb
In the first 10,000 spins bets are placed 572 times. I will have the answer for the first 100,000 spins momentarily.
Rj
Respect to you and your tenacity.
Its been a pleasure to see your progress
TSK
RJ
I have 500k spins from RNG if you are interested, let me know...
Cheers
always have time for people that are willing to test a lot. If you don't test you don't find anything out.
dj
Quote from: rjeaton1 on May 18, 2009, 05:36:51 PM
In the first 10,000 spins bets are placed 572 times. I will have the answer for the first 100,000 spins momentarily.
Avg of about 1 bet per 18 spins...interesting.
Why aren't you betting every spin?
Curious about the bot side of things RJ. Did you find your programmer on RentACoder ? I have had alot of work done on that site and would be curious who you used. Might even be the guy I use to do my bot work. When you get to the point of the nitty gritty of the bot set up...computers...IP addresses...proxy servers...multiple computers...KVM switches...etc....give me a shout. Maybe I can help you along the way.
-SC
p.s. I am a NY guy and get down to AC about 3 times a month. Maybe we can meet up in good old PA some time soon.
**I am by no means a "computer guy". Just know what I needed to learn for the whole botting thing. Not trying to come off as a self appointed expert.**
As always, I ask the usual questions. Is it playable in a real casino or are you just trying to BEAT roulette via a program? If there are multiple bets with multiple units, is there enough time to calculate everything and place bets? My opinion on a dead table....20 seconds. This testing is done with a min. bet of what?? Ken
Quote from: rjeaton1 on May 18, 2009, 04:22:54 PM
I have attached a snapshot of where the BR balance trend is currently headed. Enjoy!
Oh, and just so everyone knows this is still playing against HomeItos 700,000 spins. However, as stated in the video, I will test this system against anybodys spins (RNG or B&M) and post my results here in the forum.
Ok, just watched the video then looked at this graph and I'm confused. In the video I watched you go from spin 1 thru 10,000 and watched the bankroll climb from 500 to $2475. Then in the graph it says you are at spin 108,000 but the bankroll hasn't climbed above $2,000 yet. Are the video and graph from 2 different testing sessions? The video results are very impressive - the graph, that is an awful long time to wait yet it's still a positive outcome.
"the graph, that is an awful long time to wait yet it's still a positive outcome." >>> :punish: See above questions. Ken
Very impressive RJ. If you don't want to spend money, i can code the bot for you just for the price of share the system.
Thanks,
Luiz.
Quote from: rjeaton1 on May 18, 2009, 05:36:51 PM
In the first 10,000 spins bets are placed 572 times. I will have the answer for the first 100,000 spins momentarily.
I assume this will be playable on RNG only
As always, i'm late :-[ , i can't download the video RJ, i tried from 2 different computers with no luck.
Anyway, i'm glad you've found a system that works... i think someone already ask, sorry if that is the case, but ¿is this system only to beat the roulette with a bot or is possible to play on live roulette at a B&M casino??
Thanks for share mate, your contribution to the forum is priceless. :thumbsup:
As always, I ask the usual questions. Is it playable in a real casino or are you just trying to BEAT roulette via a program? If there are multiple bets with multiple units, is there enough time to calculate everything and place bets? My opinion on a dead table....20 seconds. This testing is done with a min. bet of what?? Ken
Mr J,
I'll assume it's only playable on RNG since he only placed 572 bets in 10,000 spins. That'd be a long ass wait for a bet at times.
Matt
I think I got this new modified system but it seems very dangerous when we loose...isn't it?
For exemple, if you loose twice then you have to put 81 units on each number?
@Matt >> Thats fine but then......his goal is to beat the game via a program? Sounds alright. Even that on its own is damn tough. I've asked the question before.......if after 50 million spins (RX) and your method is up $7, is that beating roulette? Well, I guess it is. Ken
Just wanted everybody to know that you can now download the un-modified version of the four spins to win system in the RXtreme coding section of the forum.
Just watched the video and...OMG...looks pretty impresive...so, this is system is only for RGN roulettes?
I have to say I'm thrilled for this system! :swoon:
Sounds good, I do agree its RNG, sitting in an B&M Casino would give you a fat ass.
Hy RJ i so that you make the test with the modified_four_spin.
can you share this variant on forum or it is secret?
Hi RJ!
I've been busy those past days and I just came to your video. I'm downloading it at the moment...
Thanks for sharing with us your success.
Cheers
Great video.
Thanks for the share.
Is this a winning system? :o