Some thoughts before I post the results of my real money tests.

[super-roulette]

To anyone left in the building........

I've dropped my bet from that mind-boggling four cents down to two cents and made one other change Matt suggested.  As you can see it make a world of difference in the draw down.  And I only went for a profit of $10 instead of $20.  I also slowed the speed of the bot down to where Bet Voyager could keep up.  That may have been a contributing problem, too.

Cracked the 300 Euro mark Sam - great going.

Matt

[TwoCatSam]

This is the kind of graph I'm looking for.  The thing only went down 34 cents!

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[kompressor]

it there any progression involved ??....that why you have to keep betting unit low ??

( i know this is in part for testing purpose )

what's the highest betting unit you can use ??

[TwoCatSam]

kompressor

Yes there is a progression and I keep the bet low to survive!  You could bet dollars or five dollars if you wanted, but you better be wealthy to fund the account. 

Matt calls it an investment tool and it is.  Slow and steady.

Your bet size would be up to you, but you always have the table max to deal with.

Sam

[kompressor]

what would be the highest betting unit according to the progression and table maximum ?? (for this casino of course)

[super-roulette]

This is the kind of graph I'm looking for.  The thing only went down 34 cents!

Super session that one Sam!

Matt

[MattyMattz]

Sam - just read this thread...

great posts.  Hope it keeps winning for you

MM

[winkel]

Before you all get too excited:

betvoyager has a spread of .01$ to 1000$ on EvenChances.

Even a Martingale-Progression would survive with that for 20 losses.
Everyone knows the chance for that to happen. So we can watch this testing for some months and help selling the bot.
That the bot works (how can it bet faster than the Casino does?) is not the thing. It is the system that comes with it, which is winning.
so it is systems-selling in a new way.

Q: Why is the system or the combination of bets and the progression not open to everyone?
A: Nobody would buy the bot nor the system.


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winkel

[super-roulette]

Before you all get too excited:

betvoyager has a spread of .01$ to 1000$ on EvenChances.

Even a Martingale-Progression would survive with that for 20 losses.
Everyone knows the chance for that to happen. So we can watch this testing for some months and help selling the bot.
That the bot works (how can it bet faster than the Casino does?) is not the thing. It is the system that comes with it, which is winning.
so it is systems-selling in a new way.

Q: Why is the system or the combination of bets and the progression not open to everyone?
A: Nobody would buy the bot nor the system.


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winkel

Hi Winkel, thanks for your post.

I understand your skepticism however, one should not automatically assume that if something is being sold that it is no good. You are indeed correct it is not the BOT that is winning, it is the systems that the BOT is executing that are. The BOT simply automates the whole process which means you do not need to be in front of your PC for hours on end.

The systems are valuable with or without the BOT. They will work in any casino, however they work better in Bet Voyager simply because there is no zero, why play a -2.7% game when you can play even odds? It has naught to do with a large bet spread they do not require this to be effective.

Regards
Matt

[TwoCatSam]

To anyone taking a break from the fights..........

About two weeks ago I did something stupid to the bot.  It was running and I was afraid it was going to tank and I changed the settings during the trot.  Well, this truly caused the demise of my E100 bankroll.  I was a E330 when I started that trot.  I lost it all.

Now, I've put in another E100 and have been using different settings on the bot.  I am usually making about E5 in 500 to 600 spins.  Some times it goes 3,000 spins, but not much more than that.  I am betting pennies and may never change. 

Frankly, the hardest thing to do with this software is leave it alone.  The principles are sound, I am sure. 

So where am I now?  My second E100 is now E278, so I'm up all around.  Not doing as well as Thomas Grant, have not multiplied my bank by 10, but I'm happy.  I seem to have the ability to screw up a good thing when it gets to a certain point.  Can't stand winning, I guess!

Sam

[MattyMattz]

Keep it up Sam

[thomasgrant]

You lost it all Sam?
How did you manage that?
But your back up? Right?
Have you recovered what you lost as yet?
Im up to $370
Going for $400
Then $500
Fantastic considering I started with $30

[TwoCatSam]

T.G.

I lost it all by changing the settings midstream.

Sam

[super-roulette]

To anyone taking a break from the fights..........

About two weeks ago I did something stupid to the bot.  It was running and I was afraid it was going to tank and I changed the settings during the trot.  Well, this truly caused the demise of my E100 bankroll.  I was a E330 when I started that trot.  I lost it all.

Frankly, the hardest thing to do with this software is leave it alone.  The principles are sound, I am sure. 

So where am I now?  My second E100 is now E278, so I'm up all around.  Not doing as well as Thomas Grant, have not multiplied my bank by 10, but I'm happy.  I seem to have the ability to screw up a good thing when it gets to a certain point.  Can't stand winning, I guess!

Sam

Thanks for the update Sam. Yes changing settings mid session invites failure as you switch from logic to luck.

Glad you have recovered, stick to what is working for you.

Matt

[roules]

Thanks for the updates and tips Sam. The big question - will you leave it run while you go on holidays (however long that is)?
Cheers

[roules]

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