Quote from: Ka2 on December 02, 2008, 05:50:52 AM
also what about this? "I discovered something about roulette that should happen more often...a lot more often, but did not!"
I know....shooting the dealer!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: Jakkalsdraai on December 02, 2008, 09:22:59 AM
Quote from: Ka2 on December 02, 2008, 05:50:52 AM
also what about this? "I discovered something about roulette that should happen more often...a lot more often, but did not!"
I know....shooting the dealer!!!!!!!!!
Hahahahaha
this guy is the Roulette Riddler........ handsdown
cheerz
TINO, [smiley=welcome/welcome.gif]
I think the man MAY be up to something, I do like his intentions.
Do you know how.
Man, he needs to change his website format for sure! Many people (including me) thought it was a sales letter! If he were around I could lend a hand in web formatting, but sadly the man doesn't want to be contacted. :-\
I for sure enjoy when someone is willing to share. Let's keep on studying what Edward says.
Regards,
Victor
well good luck guys, i cannot help you brainstorm because i dont believe what the guy says, and if he says dont watch past results but movements, it all seems contradictory.
Thank you for your professionalism Ryan. Credit to you.
.......... i have to say that there is some contradiction in what he says on his website.
Carlitos 8)
hehe im no professional! no probs
Guys, this
ACETF foundation... it's fake, almost hundred percent sure!
If anybody know/find information about a single penny donated by
them anywhere around the world... This will be the only proof of the opposite.
I bet there is not such thing.
Quote from: CHARLES on December 03, 2008, 07:18:15 PMI THINK HE IS A LONLEY MAN TRYING TO GET SOME ANTTENTION AND HE DID.
Fair enough.
Regards,
m
P.S.
£52 million corporation with such shitty website?!
Guys, do not get fooled by some morons...
It's probably some student's dissertation in Philospohy or... whatever...
I notice a lot of effort being made to denounce Hampshire's 'Winning Bet', or expose his organisation as fake.
Maybe caring folks don't want us to waste our time ;)
But I've wasted a whole lot of time on "sound ideas" and "experts" already, anyway. What's a little more...
And is this what this thread is about: exposing possible frauds? Nope, read the title.
What these folks need to do is start a thread titled "How to expose roulette frauds".
Why aren't they going to do THAT?!
New Ken
Well said New Ken.
Yeah agree with Ken
Ok, guys...
This is a topic about Charles H., his methods and his websites and I think
there is nothing wrong with posting my opinion here... :-X
I think you guys should know that there are no errors in roulette.
Because an error in roulette table is exactly what Charles claims.
If there is a "consistent winning bet", then it would exist in some of
the thousands betting systems used in roulette, don't you think?
But eventually they all fail in their attempt to beat the roulette.
Anyway, I wish you guys good luck. Have fun!
Regards,
One of the "caring guys who do not want you to waste your time"
New Ken, why can we not point out some contradictions?? There are few on his website. The 52 million, do not watch the wheel but the table, do not watch past results, watch the movements....LOL!!
We must look and discuss both positive and negative........
Carlitos 8)
1. Steal chips.
2. Delete two of the numbers.
3. Add a second ball.
Just few basic ideas...
That was my last post. Sorry.
Regards,
m
Cmon ppl no need to fight over this [smiley=3D-gros-anim/36_16_8.gif]
there is no such thing as a winning bet because of the fact that no matter what bet goes down on the table its always going to payout under the breakeven amount, you cant change the odds and no bet can change the odds either so its a waste of time trying, i agree the game of roulette isnt all about maths but a constant winning bet does boil down to simple maths, and that maths is any single or combination of bets will lose
Sewje,
Welcome aboard mate. Great to have you here.
All the best,
Marven
Heys guys, first post here. I found this site a few days ago and was reading bout Winkels system which I find pretty interesting. Anyway, I kinda hate for this to be my first post. I read all 15 or so pages of this Charles guys' website and as far as I'm concerned there is no such thing as a consistent winning bet. I also think (which may be beside the point to some here) that he is to be blunt a scam.
Both sites, nolinks.win3million.com (nolinks://nolinks.win3million.com) and nolinks.acetf.org (nolinks://nolinks.acetf.org) are both privately listed websites listed through coincidently the same proxy host in Arizona. Also, on the nolinks.acetf.org (nolinks://nolinks.acetf.org) website they mention a site that was "spotted by a student" (hove-news.com) that they liked which also is coincidently hosted privately by the same company out of Arizona. The writing style on all three sites are the same too. Someone has cooked up an elaborate scheme for some reason or another. I am betting (not really lol) that possibly in the near future this "system" may be up for sale.
Magnum, [smiley=welcome/welcome.gif] to the forum.
I too noticed the "Domains by proxy" registration, usually made by spammers and some sellers; if the content of the win3million site weren't about roulette and helping children, I'd say the guy is trying to pull something out too. Time will tell. For now, I see nothing wrong in debating his published content :), he did post some good advices on land-based play and also observations regarding the layout.
I truly hope something good derives from it.
Thanks for making your participation Magnum.
Victor
Quote from: VLSroulette on December 05, 2008, 01:56:56 AM
Magnum, [smiley=welcome/welcome.gif] to the forum.
I too noticed the "Domains by proxy" registration, usually made by spammers and some sellers; if the content of the win3million site weren't about roulette and helping children, I'd say the guy is trying to pull something out too. Time will tell. For now, I see nothing wrong in debating his published content :), he did post some good advices on land-based play and also observations regarding the layout.
I truly hope something good derives from it.
Thanks for making your participation Magnum.
Victor
Thanks Victor, He does know the game probably way better than I do for sure. I noticed that he is very vague and only goes "so far" about how much is says about this bet. Not to sound like I am contradicting myself but I hope he is for real, although I doubt it. When he says you need to beat the game and not the wheel (if I am getting this correct) it some how gets you thinking. Now, if none of the past numbers mean a thing then we must think of beating roulette on one spin only. Other than tracking the ball or finding flaws in the wheel I am at a loss.
Oh, and yes I agree that debating the content is fun. :) Ya never know what may come of it.
.............. it's not 52 million euros but ponds!!
Carlitos 8)
I agree with Vic,
No problem studying in that direction. That is the members who wish to do this' own choice.
I do however agree with Magnum that this is a scheme. I read it as well and on the one page (cannot remember which) he mentions that maybe one day he will be able to sell the consistent bet but only with the consent of the so-called trustees. So it's not a given. lol
That was just a seed planted by him or them. Watch out, these guys have patients. They will eventually have people begging to be scammed in place of them begging people to buy their crap. Like I say an evil scam is developing mark my words.
But again, no harm in studying any idea whatsoever. Just don't pay this guy any money whatsoever if it ever should come up. Remember we all are just a bit desperate in finding the grail...and alot of us will give up alot to find it. Don't fall in his trap.
Cheers
Jakk ;)
Dont forget according to Tino, his website must be in the air at least for 2 straight years! So why wait that long, to come up with a scam? Also websites do cost money, even more if they generate a lot of trafic. There are no banners or advertisements on his page what so ever. Even if it was a students joke? It still got me looking for a "true" answer...
Quote from: JHM on December 05, 2008, 10:59:45 AM
Let's forget about scam or not. If a system for sale comes up we'll notice at that time.
That's where this topic is for. To find that bet together.
Remember posts in a thread can always be split! As you are the one who started it, you may be interested in having this thread splitted in two: one for the study and other for the comments.
I have absolutely no problem in doing so, my motto is
we all can co-exist and share our viewpoints, splitting will help doing so in an organized fashion.
What do you say dear JHM?
The floor is open, people.
New Ken
hi jlp my name is tino question do no more about the relaxed roulette system
Okay, these posts were splitted from the original "HOW TO FIND A CONSISTENT WINNING ROULETTE BET (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/general-board/how-to-find-a-consistent-winning-roulette-bet/)".
Feel free to dispute any splitting! There is also a "merge" function to have them back to the original topic.
Here we can keep the discussion about charles, websites and other besides the actual bet.
Regards,
Victor
To JHM and Worm---I wonder if I've found something....
Here are Worm's numbers and what I've come up with following Charles Hampshire's hints:
It's structured in ten spins each. Flat betting, single units.
Here we go.
5 L
5 L
2 L
34 W
17 W
8 L
27 W
24 L
2 W
13 W Lost 5 units
19 L
9 W
2 L
21 W
25 W
11 W
29 L
0 W
8 L
32 L Lost 5 units
32 L
34 L
32 L
19 W
34 L
17 W
1 W
15 W
13 W
24 L Lost 5 units
9 L
7 L
0 W
25 L
0 W
18 W
25 W
30 L
7 W
26 W Won 30 units
0 W
9 W
30 L
14 W
30 W
19 W
19 L
20 L
15 L
36 L Lost 5 units
11 W
0 W
26 L
20 L
30 W
3 L
31 W
23 W
27 W
0 W Won 65 units
32 L
10 W
18 W
23 L
3 W
13 W
0 W
18 L
4 W
26 W Won 65 units
1 W
8 L
16 W
5 W
26 L
23 L
20 L
3 W
13 W
12 W Won 30 units
0 W
27 L
2 W
36 W
9 L
0 W
0 W
32 W
17 L
31 W Won 65 units
27 L
16 W
32 W
22 W
12 W
14 W
23 L
28 W
17 W
25 W Won 100 units
17 W
6 W
22 W
2 W
18 W
20 L
28 W
10 L
30 W
8 W Won 100 units
0 W
10 L
12 L
17 W
5 L
0 W
30 W
27 L
23 W
29 L Lost 5 units
Lost 25 units
Won 455 455-25=
430 units won overall --- 120 spins, flat betting !! :o
Nenolinksnolinks Ken!!
QuoteI wonder if I've found something
Hi New Ken
With approx a 62% hit rate on winning bets.
I am sure that You have Mate.
Lanky.
Thanks, Lanky...but I'm not one to celebrate in this game until I've given this the drill. But who knows...
I'm already scared... ;)
New Ken
It really has something to do with movements on the table. Plus I'm betting 18 nos ($1 units--$18 a spin in the example of Worm's nos).
Um, am I giving away too much? :-\
Hi Ken, looking good must be something your doing right ;)
Wow, Hi Worm! Are those numbers, y'know--LEGIT?
Worm, I was waiting around, but gotta leave now---give you guys the news (hopefully good, but we'll see) about this method in a couple of days.
See ya!
Nenolinks Ken.
thanks for the warm welcome victor regards tino
Good to have you here Tino,
You are a constructive poster. [smiley=dankk2.gif] for that.
Hope to see you around for the long run.
Best regards.
Your friend,
Victor
Hi Ken,
Are you playing on an american or european table please?
Thanks TSK
Hey guys,I own 15 domains. There are many reasons why one would not want to make his name public. If a competitor finds out that is your site..it will get you delisted from the search engines. I can do that to anyone in 2 days if I wanted too. Or it can get attacked by hackers. There are lots and lots of reasons.
True, but all 3 sites are registered thru the same place and they all have very similar writing styles. I certainly hope that there is a consistent bet, but my gut tells me otherwise.
hi new ken what were you betting to give you those results regards tino
Hi New Ken,
Was it mentioned specificly on the website of Charles that one needed to play with 18 nos inside?
He pionted out that there were,
Red + Odd = 10 numbers
Red + Even = 8 numbers
Black + even = 10 numbers
Black + Odd = 8 numbers
Carlitos 8)
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"Chuck Norris is the only man who has [highlight]literally[/highlight] beaten the odds."
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Chuck Norris doesn't sleep. He waits.
Sorry, couldn't resist that. Good luck with finding "the bet", I hope it does exist.