Hi everybody, I want to give you a Christmas present. I had a lot of fun with this system, especially if all lines came regularly (were not constipated). The progression is like that: 1-1-2-2-3-3-4-4-5 end. Example:
Virtual betting Differential betting
# 1...2...3...4...5...6 = 1...2...3...4...5...6 = Total $ * Hit
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28 1 1 1 1 1* 1 - - - - -* - -
29 1 1 1 1 1* 1 - - - - -* - -
3 2* 2 2 2 1 2 1* 1 1 1 - 1 +1
2 1* - - - 1 - 1* - - - 1 - +5
7 1 -* - - 2 - 1 -* - - 2 - +2
30 1 2 - - -* - 1 2 - - -* - -1
30 2 3 - - 2* - 2 3 - - 2* - +4
21 - 3 - -* 1 - - 3 - -* 1 - 0
24 - - - 2* 1 - - - - 2* 1 - +9
22 - - - 1* 2 - - - - 1* 2 - +12
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Differential betting saves $ when zero comes. First, every line will be virtually played 3 times with progression 1-1-2. If the line don't come in those 3 spins pause until it shows up and than bet again with 3 times progression 2-3-3. If the line does not hit during the progression wait again for showing up and bet again the last 3 progressions with 4-4-5. That's end for the line. Practically we bet only the difference of the the virtual bets.
Merry Christmas and Successful New Year 2009 to all of us. :)
Hermes
Hi hermes!
Forgive me if the question is silly, but I don't get the idea differential betting.
Is this just that at spin 3 you bet "1" when in virtual is "2" and no bet when it's "1"
and after that all bets are just like virtual?
QuoteI had a lot of fun with this system, especially if all lines came regularly (were not constipated).
Hhhahhahahahah LMao @ Hermes.
Gees Mate You crack Me up with Your Humour.
Your Grateful Friend
Lanky.
trylobit & lanky you both are welcome. No question is silly, only answers could be silly, like this one: Yes, after you bet virtually 1-1-2 you start bet real 1-1-2 and if no hit wait until the line reappear and than go 2-3-3 and so on. Lanky do you have Christmas parties in Australia also? I heard only Kangaroo parties allowed there.
Humor (even bad one >:D ) never dies.
Cheers Hermes
thanks hermes!
I'll try to get some fun with this system too.
best regards.t.
Mates.......
Wonder why the Kangaroo is indigenous to Australia? Why did none spring up in Europe or America? I've always wondered that.
Saw the movie Australia. Heard the digera do in the background. We have a fellow who comes to the Oklahoma State Fair and plays the thing. He's from Australia and does a great job. I can see why it could put a person into a trance-like state. Very hypnotic.
Maybe Lanky could give us a little lesson on his country!
Sam
@ Hermes.
Yes Mate we have Christmas parties here.
But not for the Kangaroos at this time of the year.
You see its mating season for them at this time we cross them with the Sheep.
That way We have plenty of Woolen Jumpers for Winter. ;D
@ Sam
Mate the reason the Kangaroos don't want to go anywhere else is because they copied what the Wombats do.
The Wombat...Eats...Roots...And leaves. ;D
There's a few Blokes that have cottoned onto that way of life too My Mate. ;)
Another reason that they stay here is that The Roos are great Jumpers Sam.
But We don't see too many of them make it through to the swimming finals Mate. ;)
Ahh Yes Australia is the Lucky Country alright.....Well the roos think so anyway.
Now the didgeridoo is a real art.
They have to play that by blowing through their mouth & at the same time breath in through their nose.
I tried it once & Coughed & spluttered & nearly choked myself , much to the amusement of My mates who had put a Bloody tennis ball in the other end of it........Lmao
Unfortunately the making of the didgeridoo has now gone high tech.
I suppose it was inevitable to happen.
Like in the old days those guys would go walk about in the outback & find a log & they would whittle away & whittle away & whittle away for months & months until they got that thing just right.
Now that we are in the Computer age those blokes have got a lot smarter and what they do now is find a log with a hole already in it and use that........Lmao
Good On Ya Mate.
Lanky.
Wow!
This system works really nice!
Thanks hermes!
You surprised me trilobit, I didn't expected to make that quick millionaire. I won with it a few times nice money but you can lose too. Patience, enough bankroll and stoploss is the answer. You can do some damage on one dollar (or less) online LIVE EUROPEAN TABLE.
Lanky, you are lucky that kangaroo cannot swim, they would be all gone to North America. They like economical depressions. They go to the roots.
We have here in Northern atmosphere so much snow this year that we can export some to Australia. Lanky, you could be a snow distributor. Big bucks!
Cheers Hermes
Hi Hermes,
Thanks for you idea,
I am doing well with a small street strategy myself which is coming out positive :), so I have to research your method for a bit and see what comes out of it. I'm out to observe, and observe and observe as this only strengthens ones awareness, and when thats strong I feel my sixth sense kick in which is a must in this game.
Quote from: Lanky on November 24, 1973, 07:15:57 AMquote author=Lanky link=topic=4960.msg31920#msg31920 date=1229841571]
But not for the Kangaroos at this time of the year.
You see its mating season for them at this time we cross them with the Sheep.
That way We have plenty of Woolen Jumpers for Winter. ;D
Lanky could of easily threw in a kiwi joke here.. Your a nice person.
Quote from: Lanky on December 21, 2008, 04:39:31 AM
The Wombat...Eats...Roots...And leaves. ;D
Thats the first animal I educated the Canadians about. Canadians are a nice bunch, it took em a while to not get offended by my sense of humor.
Shan
Hi all,
Here's a good two-part article about differential betting.
nolinks://xerxx.se/oops/main/reading/rr000010.html (nolinks://xerxx.se/oops/main/reading/rr000010.html)
(Name: Betting "all sides", is that really The Most Stupid Bet?)
Regards,
KFS
Hi hermes!
I don't win with this system all the time... but I've put set stop at 10units profit or 20units lost.
What do you advise about stop points?
I'm not playing on live roulette tables, as I play only with small amounts of money like 0,01gbp - 0,05gbp, as
I prefer to pracitce before betting more.
Br
Shan, observation of the game is the only what we can do about it. Chinese are patient and observe everything what moves and therefore are so wise (the old one generation!). We have to observe the behaviors of the games and exploit the weakness.
trilobyt, that's smart that you test it on the lowest minimum before use to it and go higher. I didn't play it for at least 5 years and forget a lot of the fine strategy but you be keen by testing and find out what's the best technics to use. Stoploss should be economical. Example: If you win in average 5 sessions a 20 units (100 units total) and then one loss, stoploss could be a 40 units. Or even better look how much is the maximum downdraft and how often. Example if you get once in 30 sessions down - 100 then you can make the -100 stoploss. If you are winning in longer term e.g. you are up +200 units, you can make one third a stoploss. Observe what's the best solution.
When there are too many sleepers at the game, stop to bet and wait until they wake up or you take a nap. Keep eyes on the whole game which direction it is going and act properly. If necessary stop to play even with small loss.
Hermes
trylobit, what about to make the system a little bit like holy grail? I thought about it and reintroduce the 3 stage fire fighters ladder progression to use on that system. The progression is like that:
a/ 1-1-1-1-1-2-2-2-3-3 = 17 units, b/ 2-2-2-22-2-4-4-4-6-6 = 34 units, c/ 3-3-3-3-3-6-6-6-9-9 = 51 units, the whole ladder 102 units.
The tactic will be almost the same. On trigger you play the whole first leg and if you don't hit, wait until the line reappear and then bet the second leg of the ladder, if you are not lucky yet, wait until the line reappear and then bet the last leg (and pray something) of the ladder progression. Always bet all 6 lines with separate accounts.
If first leg wins you go back to the beginning on next progression (1 u.), if second leg wins you go to the end of the first progression (3 u.), and if the 3rd leg wins you go to the end of the 2nd leg (6 u.) and fight from there (it must be at least an octopus female - 3 legs? no woman has it because she would have to have 2 pussies - 3 mouths, yes, that's possible!).
Try it if it works? It should because you have 30 spins in front of you to get wise.
hi hermes!
thanks for that last post. sorry I wasn't here for a while, but I didn't checked 'notify me of replies' (my bad). so I didn't know...
I've got this system went bad few times, so I've got interested in Borg... (I know, I'm new and I want to know all the systems at the same time,
but I should pay more attention to one at first). To the point.
I think with this system the key is setting right stoploss as you said. About that holy grail progression:
Would you be that kind and give an example like you did in the first post?
Or just tell me if I'm right:
The first part of the virtual betting is extended as there is 5 steps of progression equal 1.
Then when the line hits I go thru the rest of the progression (not just 3 steps as in the first post).
Thanks again.
Best regards.
tryl.
Den dobry, trylobit, no you are not the only Polish person to beat the roulette. I knew a few who tried hard. After New Year I will make exmple for the ladder progression. Now I am too busy with eating and drinking. After the madness finnish I go for 3 weeks on fasting, that for sure.
Happy winnings in New Year 2009 to all hard trying.
Hermes
Thanks!
Well, I don't know anyone who's taking roulette seriously...
Well eating and drinking, that's all I've been doing for last 4 days now... I played roulette only once in that time... Anyway...
All the best to you too. Happy winnings in 2009!
trylobit, everybody on the forum takes the roulette seriously but not everybody have the same success to beat the game.
Hermes
"Well, I don't know anyone who's taking roulette seriously..."
I was thinking about anyone from Poland. Sorry for that.
Hermes, so how do you beat the wheel?
br.
tryl.
Betting smart enough, to not get caught in the casino mill wheels. It needs winning strategy, guts and sufficient bankroll. The rest is easy.
Hermes
P.S.
I like the picture, who is it boy or girl?
Hm... betting smart enought. I think it comes with experience... after 3months of playing I think I'm getting the idea... Any advice about that?
Winning strategy... what's yours hermes (if I may ask)?
Guts... I think I all-right about that. I always follow the system.
Sufficient bankroll... I'm playing now with 40.00gbp on joyland (bets between 0.01 and 0.10) Do you think it's enought?
I like the picture, who is it boy or girl?
Do you ask me?:D
And what about your idea of holy gral progression?
Did you test it? And could you provide an example like in first post.
best regards.
great taking to you:)
tryl.
Not so in hurry, trylobit! It took me 30 years of trials and disappointments to get finally smart enough.
The old saying says the more stupid, the more guts. I felt on myself a few times that the old saying is right.
Your betting is alright at the time of discoveries. Don't bet too much if you are not sure what you are doing.
The progression comes after New Year, I told you. Did you already have New Year Eve in Poland? If yes, than you are ahead of others. Congratulation. I wish you patience and degreed the next year.
Hermes
Hi hermes!
I'm sure there is a way to get some nice money out of roulette within less then 30 years. And I think this forum is to do so.
"Don't bet too much if you are not sure what you are doing." That's why I'm hungry for system and that's why I'm asking a lot of questions.
I want to know how the system works, why it works what is the money management to use with the system, what certain players use, etc.
Sorry, I had to miss that the progression is coming after New Year. My bad :P
All the best to you too in this New 2009 Year.
Best regards.
tryl.
I am working on it par time but it will be a new system. Because of the drastic change of the progression I had to change everything. I completely reconstructed it and do some tests if it will hold the status "system". or "BS". It will work on lines average.
The gambler is counting on luck, the casino is counting on math - which one is more scientific?
Patience trylobit.
Hermes
Finally, I got that far and made a 50 spins example. On average one line should show once in 6 spins what happens once in the blue moon but we have to start somewhere.
The rules: If line comes bet the line for 6 spins with the 3 stages progression (A,B,C), and if it doesn't hit in 6 spins stop to bet and wait until the line hit again and continue to bet the progression for another 6 spins. If the line doesn't hit in the second 6 spins repeat the waiting period until next hit and then next 6 spins of chasing the line (sleeper) for win.
The progression is: A/ 1-1-1-1-1-2-2-2-3-3 B/ 2-2-2-2-2-4-4-4-6-6- C/ 3-3-3-3-3-6-6-6-9-9 = all together 102 units.
The example of complete play: Hit/win=*; Hit=X; Wa=stop & wait for next hit;
#.....1...2...3...4...5...6...W/L...is...get...total +/-
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32 X
0 loss 1 L 1 0 -1 unit
13 X 1 L 1 0 -2
20 1 X 1 L 2 0 -4
16 1* 1 1 W 3 6 -1
25 1 1 X 1 L 3 0 -4
17 1* 1 1 2 W 5 6 -3
30 1 1 1* Wa W 3 6 0
34 1 1 1 X L 3 0 -3
7 X 1 2 1 2 L 6 0 -9
11 1* 1 Wa 1 2 W 5 6 -8
36 1 1 1 3* W 5 18 +5
10 1* 2 1 1 W 5 6 +6
11 1* Wa 2 1 W 4 6 +8
34 1 Wa 1* W 2 6 +12
4 X 1 1 L 2 0 +10
22 1 1 X 1 L 3 0 +7
9 1 1* 2 1 W 5 6 +8
14 1 1 X 2 1 L 5 0 +3
10 1 1* 2 3 1 W 8 6 +1
0 1 1 2 3 2 L 9 0 -8
12 2 1* 3 2 Wa W 8 6 -10
18 Wa 1 3* 2 W 6 18 +2
11 1* 1 Wa W 2 6 +6
1 X 1 1 L 2 0 +4
14 2 1 1* W 4 6 +6
1 2* 1 1 W 4 12 +14
21 1 1 1 X L 3 0 +11
11 1 1* 1 2 W 5 6 +12
0 1 1 1 2 L 5 0 +7
11 1 1* 1 2 W 5 6 +8
25 1 1 2 4 X L 8 0 0
5 2* 1 Wa 4 1 W 8 12 +4
10 1 1* 4 1 W 7 6 +3
2 1* 1 Wa 1 W 3 6 +6
16 1 1 X 1 L 3 0 +3
27 1 1 2 1* W 5 6 +4
18 1 1 2* 1 W 5 12 +11
27 1 1 1 1* W 4 6 +13
10 1 2* 1 1 W 5 12 +20
8 2 1* 1 1 W 5 6 +21
10 Wa 1* 1 1 W 3 6 +24
0 1 1 1 W 3 0 +21
22 1 2 X 1 L 4 0 +17
13 1 Wa 6 2 L 9 0 +8
23 1 1 6* Wa W 8 36 +36
27 1 1 1 X L 3 0 +33
27 2 1 1 2* W 6 12 + 39
16 Wa 1* 1 1 W 3 6 +42
32 1 1 1 X L 3 0 +39
23 1 1* 1 2 W 5 6 +40... 50 spins +40 units end result. In the beginning it was slow but it picked up.
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I hope I didn't make a lot of math failures. Not to get confused writing on paper is must. It is difficult to lose a session with that progression. If there will be software for it it would be easy play.
Any comments or improvements welcome.
Cheers Hermes
P.S. The columns are a little bit crocked, I shouldn't drink that much during writing.
I forget to mention that in 50 spins 3 zeros have stolen our bets! Not a friendly spin formation and on top of it the lines 4 and 6 sleeping all the time. I will try to tweak it to play only 4 lines because there are always 2 lines winners, 2 lines average and 2 lines sleepers (losers). We could left the losers out and save some bets to make more wins with smaller bankroll. What do you think geniuses?
Hermes
Other possibility for small bankroll and heart conditions would be to bet after LW or LL (trigger). Very secure system in that moment.
Hermes