Here is my final and definitive version regarding the way I play this system to limit fluctuation as much as possible by trying to skip severe waves of chaos but profit from the many various streaks which are bound to occur à la VLS.
This demo uses spins from Wiesbaden table 2 - January 6, 2008
I play on two opposite even chances, like Red/Black. I use a virtual record of an Alembert progression which uses 2 steps only but each time an imaginary bet is won at step 1, I bet for real on the next spins until I lose then I revert to the virtual mode. The real bet is done according to a regular Alembert -1-2-3+4+3 until a profit of at least +1 is made. An attack never lasts more than 9 spins. I always resume with step 1 of the regular Alembert progression when a new attack starts.
You'll see that along side with the real balance I keep an imaginary record of a flat bet as if simultaneously I was playing a flat bet amount each time a real bet is placed. I do this in order to evaluate my real fluctuations and to avoid the use of a complex formula. Each time my total flat balance reaches -5 or less I increase my initial wager unit +1 to use it as my new increment when I bet for real like this -2,-4,-6,+8,+6,+4 etc.. When I increase my initial wager unit I also reset the total flat bet amount to 0 as I want to monitor precisely when I reach -5 or less as I said to know when it is time to increase my wager unit +1. So look at this demo as there are some more commentaries within. A player using it exactly as demonstrated here would need to be very deeply unlucky to lose. I have not seen it lose in my tests.
Just want to say what a great strategy you succeed to make for The Even Chances. Thanks.
Cheers
Thanks a lot Lucky as coming from you i know it means something. [smiley=beer.gif]
Congratulations arte, its really brilliant idea. I wanted to ask a couple of things.
1.- Its seems you skip the the spin from the fake bettor when you bet for real. For example:
fake bet real bet
1
-1
1
The third fake bet should 2 if the real wasnt skipped.
Is it like that ?
1.- "each time an imaginary bet is won at step 1, I bet for real on the next spins until I lose then I revert to the virtual mode. The real bet is done according to a regular Alembert -1-2-3+4+3 until a profit of at least +1 is made. An attack never lasts more than 9 spins. I always resume with step 1 of the regular Alembert progression when a new attack starts."
So you revert to the virtual mode when you lose. But lose in the real mode reaching 0, or the fake, or both and reaching -1?. If for example you have lost -2 in spin number 9 of one attack, you stop and bet next chance at 1 unit. am I right?
Cheers and Thanks for sharing
JD
Arty,
Brilliant strategy! Glad that you shared it.
[smiley=dankk2.gif]
Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!!
@Nathan, thanks for your thanks. Just as lucky i appreciate your feedbacks even though if at times you think i am way to far in a virtual world. I suppose out of 100 ideas there is at least one which may stand out and be interesting [smiley=wink.gif] Seriously, i do it first for myself, but i don't mind sharing it as we never know maybe someone somewhere will modify it to make it even more interesting.
Quote1.- Its seems you skip the the spin from the fake bettor when you bet for real. For example:
fake bet real bet
1
-1
1
The third fake bet should 2 if the real wasnt skipped.
In fact, not. In this particular case, the third fake bet is not the third but the first bet of a new sequence which start at 1. Remember how an Alembert progression works. When you win you decrease -1 but when you lose you increace +1. So in this example, the first fake or virtual bet is 1 and it won so this activate the trigger to bet for real which in this case was lost. When a real bet is lost you revert to a virtual mode but here last time the virtual player played he won so we don't need to increase our bet and since the last virtual bet was 1 unit we can't go lower than 1 so we must bet 1 once again. Your error was to mix both progression the virtual and the real. Next time the real player will bet, he'll have to place 2 units. Do you understand ?
Sure, its quite clear, Thanks a lot!, actually I explained myself bad. I understand then, when the real bet is placed, the fake bettor is not betting.
Thanks again ::)
This is quite good Art, I have not had to place a bet higher than 3 units yet. Nice one! [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif]
[smiley=dankk2.gif]
;D Hey Lohnro,
"When in doubt...lay back and cut!" [smiley=laugh.gif]
Jakkalsdraai [smiley=beer.gif]
hello there... it is a great post..
i have a question...
how do you bet red/black?
i am bit confused now...
thank you so much
Joker
hey there..i am sorry but i am totally confused about fake bet one which triggers real bet
you said two steps....
1-2, 1-2 1-2 is that it? and if you win at 1 then bet real money?
but i see two first win in row 1 1 then bet... why is that?
thank you
Hope I am not only one who is very confuse about this stuff
for fake bettorr.....
1-2 1-2 1-2 but how could be 2-1-1 how does it work?
fake bettor part is where i can't just figure out
thank you
The visual examples above is perfectly clear about how the system works. It can't be better explained i am afraid.
Hello Mr.Arteinvivo yes it is very well presented... just few part just few part it doesn't click to me...
for example...
spin# Fake bettor (1-2) use only 2 steps and every time win 1 then bet next bet with real money
1 B -1
5 B -2
0 B -1
24 B 2
0 B -1
21 B -2
29 B 1<<<<won at 1 stage so next one is real bet
34 B -1 <<<real bet lose back to virtual mode
24 B 1<<<<here is my question... since virtual mode won previously and won this time also, so shouldn't be real money?
8 B 1<<<< but instead I see another virtual bet... then i see real bet to follow...
31 B 1<<<< real bet
4 B
Can anyone help me on this ? those who figure out his system
Joker,
As you should have become aware that Arte is attempting to win ateast 1 bet in 9. So the last bet of the " niner" series would be a virtual bet resulting with B 24 which then concludes the series of nine.
NO CARRYOVER. Starting a new series with a virtual bet resulting B 8 . Next REAL bet result B 31. A Win therefore concludes this particular series.This being second spin resulting in a WIN.
Next to a new series commencing with the first virtual bet........etc.
Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!
Joker, look at the visual demo. When there is a blue cell in the fake or virtual column then the real better kicks in. When the real bettor loses a bet, the fake or virual bettor kicks in. Can't be easier than that.
Hello mr. Arte and mr. Nathan... thank you so much i got it
Anything is simple after figured it out... but took me while.. thank you
great system.
Joker
On average, how many real bets do you make an hour?
If a player plays both sides Black/Red as outlined in this thread then he should bet every 3 or 4 spins on average but this is a rough estimation.
So you make real bets and fake bets and sometimes a real bet wins and sometimes a fake bet wins and in the end you just hope you're ahead. The more I look at it, the more it looks like a system driven by pure luck.
The idea is for the fake bettor to catch concentration of losses and for the real bettor to catch concentration of wins. If the there are few periods where the table is choppy then the procedure is winning. Otherwise it is so so.
Hi, I'm new to this forum. Very interesting method on even chances.
One question: did anyone try to play this method on all even chances at the same time? (B/R, Hi/lo, Odd/even). I guess it would be risky, because few zeros could ruin all bets, but also gaining profit should be much quicker...
hello there.. yes this is great system.. but nothing is gurantee to get even win 1 unit per day....
you can test yourself but i like his other system... line system....
thank you
joker
I'm also new to this forum and after reading lots of different systems I like this system most.
I do have some questions
The strategy is 9 tries at a row. I saw this flow stops when total flat is -5 but this flow continued when real balance was 1 again.
Can you show us some tests in RX (or other programs)
what do you think is best for betting having a start balance of $200 and play with $5 dollar units. In my test of 1000 it did not reach more that -13 and highest was +26!!!
Anyway this is by far most the best system i have seen on internet! thanks for sharing!!
Greetings
Erwin van Dijk [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif]
QuoteAnyway this is by far most the best system I have seen on internet!
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Arte,
You can really be proud of what the last posterf] had to say. I am still very much impressed with your accomplishment.
I can`t understand why some people on a certain forum cannot grasp what you have presented in such a clear and uncomplicated manner.
Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
Thanks Nat, it's always agréable to get a rose at times even though Valentine's day is way back in my mind. [smiley=happy.gif]
Anyway, no one answered my question: did anyone try to play this an all 3 even chances at the same time?
hi arte,
used your strategy in the amsterdamscasinos.com and i was very unlucky
in one hour i lost 400 euro's!!! [smiley=cry.gif]
I played with units of 5 euro's! and my goal was to win only 25 euro's or 5 units!!!
because the bets are increasing when flat bets are going to -5 i went down to the bottom.
i'm still believing in your system but maybe a step out time should be made in order to prevent this big losses.
I'm also very curious if you have some samples of using this system!! just as i asked in my former reply
And i'm also having difficulties in make a mathematical formula in order to calculate the chance of losing 400 euro's with units of 5 using this system! do you have any suggestions!
however i lost quite some money with this system the first time i use this in an online roulette i still believe in your system
your comments please arte!!!!
greetings Erwin
STOP PLAYING. NEVER PLAY IN ONLINE CASINOS.
How many times should we tell people that online Casinos are not fair. YOU CAN'T WIN ON ANY ONE OF THEM. Even DUBLIN is not a place i would ever consider.
Consider this, i would only trust landed Casinos and again only if it is regulated by Governments. Also, only a small fraction of people can expect to win this is not 50% win and 50% lose but this is more like 80% lose and the remaining % lose what they have won.
So my recommendation today is STOP PLAYING. Is that clear enough ? If i would have been in your shoes i would have stopped at -20 not -400.
Playing a mechanical system without using your mind and common sense is not a good idea.
Repeat after me "From now on, i will never gamble again", "From now on, i will never gamble again", "From now on, i will never gamble again"
hi
Is it posible to made these system coded for the RX-roulette program ???
Hi Arteinvivo,
Ok, your obviously NOT a fan of on online casinos [smiley=shocked.gif] If you could take a moment to explain to me why, it would be greatly appreciated.... [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
[smiley=dankk2.gif] in advance....
Take it easy....
Because it's too easy for them to cheat. And even if they don't cheat they can refuse to pay you. In both cases what can you do ? Nothing. The risk is too great for me to make it worthwhile. Also, don't forget you need to credit your account using a CC or other means which are not free. In other words, before even placing your first bet you have lost money.
Ok, fair enough, I wish you well at the land based casinos you play in.... [smiley=wink.gif]
Because it's too easy for them to cheat. >>>>
I don't think the live wheel at Dublin is cheating. I don't see how they could do it. [smiley=vrolijk_1.gif] [smiley=Santa001.gif] [smiley=vrolijk_1.gif] [smiley=Santa001.gif] [smiley=vrolijk_1.gif]
Quotedon't forget you need to credit your account using a CC or other means which are not free. In other words, before even placing your first bet you have lost money.
Wire transfers are also high on people who get to make small transactions with online casinos, %-wise. If the wire can be avoided, the better. Just a piece of advice.
Why "no wire" please VLS ??
Thanking you in advance.... [smiley=wink.gif]
Take it easy.... [smiley=beer.gif]
Mate, wires can cost up to $50. No matter if you send as little as $100.
For little transfers that is quite a burden.
Oh, they charge you for it, I see.... Thought you were going to say be careful of Identity Theft or something like that. My bad :-[
Cheers... [smiley=beer.gif]
Hi Art,
Is it possible to have a copy of the spreadsheet for this method?
I would advise to select only one of a group either BLACK or RED. Ditto either odd or even
Nathan Detroit
I wanted to bump this back to the top. A pretty decent method for the EC's !!
Ken
G'day Mr J,
A blast from the past seeing Arte & Spike's names again.
I wonder if Spike & Gizmo (Cheese & Crackers) ever 'kissed' & made up?
Glenn.
This is an unemotional process of bet selection. No gamblers fallacy that something is" due ". Play it as it is given and set a loss limit percentage of your bankroll
For recreational purposes only. Play at your own risk.
ND
I have been testing some baccarat shoes out of the Zumma mini baccarat tester book. The results so far are encouraging but I can see the method struggles with choppy results and does well with straight streaks. I don't know what the long term result will be but I can see this method requires a lot of patience to play because you don't place bets frequently. Just my observations up to this point.
Even though it is a time consuming method it is ideal for SHORT term play. Choppy results are not welcome .
Nathan Detroit