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CPR (Consistent Profit Roulette)

Started by JHM, September 16, 2008, 01:29:37 PM

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JHM

I have tested Chuck Sutton's CPR (Consistent Profit Roulette). And it's not so consistent to me. Played european Roulette, split the wheel in 4 sectors, wait until 1 sector doesn't hit for 9 spins and than start betting that section with a progression (Coast mode). After a hit start betting that section with progression (Attack mode).

I stopped after 59 rounds of play. Tested coast and attack mode. At first coast mode looked promising. But after 3 losses I see no reason for further testing.

Total lose -387 units (didn't even finish counting the losses on Attack mode).

See nolinks://img181.imageshack.us/img181/2324/cprnu1.jpg or below.


Kingspin

The attack mode does not work I agree with you on that. I always come out on top with this system using coast mode so I can't understand how you have managed to show a loss.  :-\      If you forget about attack mode and just use coast mode to make the profit it works fine in my opinion.   I wait for 10 or 11 misses then use the conservative progression and chip bet on 0 or split on 0 . All i can say about the cpr is that i win more than i loose so for me it's a winner even if as you show it has actually shown a loss. Did you play this real or just download numbers from  a web site. 

JHM

Kingspin, Coast mode looked promesing. Check session 1-50, all winners. Than out of nothing I had 3 loosing streaks which crushed all the winnings (as you can see in the sheet above). I played like Chuck says. Wait for 9 spins (column 4) and than start progression.


Kingspin

You lost 3 times within such a few sessions , that has to be  a rare event , Could you please explain how many times the sector missed on each session you lost.  I think the risk is a tad too high only waiting for 9 misses like chuck says  to do,  Would you say wait for 12 misses before betting sound about right. John solitude says wait for a 9 number section to miss 17 times before betting but i think i wouldn't have the patience waiting as this only happens pretty rarely...... The most i have seen a 9 number section miss so far over many games is 19 or 20 misses in total.  Thats 10 misses from starting the progression.

JHM

Kingspin, it were 3 independent sessions. I quit after loss and later did a new session. You can see in column 4 at the header ''Hit after 9+''.

Loss nr 1: 9 + 21 = 30 to hit
Loss nr 2: 9 + 12 = 21 to hit
Loss nr 3: 9 + 12 = 21 to hit

If you play like you say and wait for 10 or 11 misses than lose nr 2 and 3 never happened.

Kingspin

Ok JHM thanks for your testing , very interesting.  Could I just ask your opinion of what chuck sutton says about building up to $22,000 profit in 6 months from low value chips and steadily increasing the chip value. Would you say this is impossible or almost impossible or say a reasonable chance. Is what he says a load of BS it got me starting to think if the system is over rated. Do you think it's possible to build a large bankroll with CPR..

JHM

I think Chuck Sutton's 22k is based on coast and attack mode. We already found out that attack mode is not working. And attack mode is where are made the most units when winning. Cost mode goes much slower.

My opinion. Loss 2 & 3 would be winners when waited not 9 but 10 spins. I had 19 winners in spin 10 (that's 456 units). A loss with this system is -423. When played with $ 1,- units. The recovery is too big from a loss. Personally I wouldn't recommend it.

Are you playing this and what is your opinion?

Kingspin

Jhm i play this system all the time i make  money from it but i don't play it to the end of progression .
I don't think i am an expert at roulette but after studying the system and testing it i personally play it my own way which works for me so far. Here is how i play it. First i wait a  minimum 11 misses  & sometimes 12 misses , i base my entrance point on past sector hits , i look how the  sectors have hit over say the last 20 to 30  spins and get a general idea how the sectors are hitting , after studying the patterns ABCD i then mentally compute roughly how i think the next sector i am planning on betting is going to go before a hit.
With practice i can guess pretty accurate how many misses i am likely to encounter.  I would base it either as going to hit fast like hit within  1 or 2 spins, i would consider an average hit of say 5 spins before my sector hits , i also would have a rough idea in my mind if it looked like a long miss probability. If i think it looks like it go a long way before a hit like say for example 20 + misses then i don't even enter the game until 15 misses , this always works so far. My progression is 1 .1 .1. 2. 2 . 3. 5. 7. 10. this progression is what i would play after 12 misses. This method works 95 times out of an hundred. You can recover if you loose too which is  rare. I have tried a lot of methods playing cpr but this method works for me. Nothing set in concrete i just play it according to how i get the feel of things. If it is going bad i leave the game alone for a while and go back later. I play with £2 chips and can typically make £100 -£250 an hour at 1 spin per minute. Sometimes i only make £70 an hour is all depends on how the game is going. Once up by £200 i quit because the wheel will take it all back if you play for much more than 100 spins you can hit bad sessions- like 26 misses now and again.  I am up in profit by a lot since i started with it , got stung twice on tests i made on fun chips luckily as i got 2 sessions where it went to 26 misses.

JHM

Good to see the system is working for you. I hope you keep winning with the system like you play it with your own study.

JHM

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