A TwoCat test of enrique's "Winning Edge"...........

[enrique malou]

Hello Sam, yes they are spot on.

[TwoCatSam]

Ah, we are on the road to succes!!

enrique

As time and wife permit, I will do a test with the "No Six" chart.

Sam

[See_Jerek]

VLS Godfather of South America
Two Cat Sam Godfather of North America
Enrique Godfather of UK
Lanky Godfather of Oceania
Winkel Godfather of Germany


We have them cornered now Jerek, there is no where for them to run.
I know one thing for sure. With your dedication and persistence, you will be up there with any knowledgable player in quick time.

The sort of effort Sam put into testing the G.U.T is now bringing him the rewards he deserves. It is true of anything and roulette is no different that the more effort you put, then the more you get out.
A famous golfer once said that the more work he puts in, the luckier he gets. I have a feeling it is true for roulette as well in my opinion.

regards

enrique.

Hi Enrique,

We still need someone to cover Africa as well,Dean should be able to fit into that godfather position after demonstrating winning 1000 units in one seating

nolinks://vlsroulette.com/roulette-challenge-zone/1000-units-in-one-sitting-real-money-rng/msg27696/#new

Thank you for your encouragement,there was a time when some people here misunderstood me and condamn me as a desperado and accuse I me of chasing the holy grail too much,I was even accuse of stalking others for systems and trying to rip others off of their systems without putting any effort of my own.I was even being PM to read this thread

nolinks://vlsroulette.com/roulette-and-gambling-framework/the-perfect-loser/

It really hurt me very deeply as I was wronged and misjudged for being zealous about roulette.I did put in effort playing 4 hours a day that is not inclusive of reading roulette books and testing systems.I do not claim that I am a high roller neither did I boost about my skills and knowledge as I am still a beginner after all.My unit size is $5 to $10 depending if its an outside or inside bet.This sort of bet size is really normal standard not really hell of a lot.Personally, I feel that since I am spending time playing roulette it must be worth my time despite winning or losing.I do not understand why people like to bet peanuts of 10ct and 20ct,are they monkeys?Why should they spend hours playing to win a few dollars.They will be better off doing something else besides roulette or if really need to test a system they can always use play money.

I know I will be a target of flaming after this posting but I couldn't care less.We are playing roulette as an extra income and some of us playing for bread and butter.By playing peanuts what happiness does it bring you and what will be your prize after 4 hours of play ?Nothing at all,you might as well use play money.

Just my 2 cents worth

[eightfour]

Wonderful!

This seems like a system I would like to learn but I am just stuck on the bet selection. How does it work? I have been trying to figure it out for some hours now, but I seem to be missing the point 

Let me use the example of the first selection in TwoCatSam:

First 36 appeared. Then 23.

I understand that 36 is on the 6th double street
and 23 is on the a 4th double street

What gives absolutely no meaning to me is how counting from 6 to 4 gives you 4 and 5  based on this chart from Enrique:

Code Select Expand


First line
1.1
2.6
3.2
4.5
5.3
6.4
Second
1.1
2.2
3.3
4.4
5.5
6.6

I have tried every possible way I could think about counting from 6 to 4 and getting these numbers and I just don't get it  Help would be very appreciated.

8-4

[TwoCatSam]

Disregard the numbers on the left.  Use this:

Chart 1

1
6
2
5
3
4

Chart 2

1
2
3
4
5
6

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

eightfour

Here is a two-minute video which explains it all.

Notice the G.U.T total!

Sam


nolinks://nolinks.motionbox.com/external/hd_player/type=hd,video_uid=ee93d5bb101ce764

[Lanky]

Jerek My Friend.

You & I have become good Friends & I know Your Heart Mate.....It's a good one Cobber.

And I don't think You meant that as it came out as it was written.

You are a good person & I have reason to thank You for things as well as You do to Me....So We are even in that regard.

You are a good Member to the Forum & are entitled to Your opinion My Mate....just like the rest of us are.

I am not going to Flame You as You put it but I am going to explain something to You from another point of view My Mate.
About those people that bet in 10 or 20 cents or even less.

It could be that is all that those people can afford to bet with at this stage of their life.
In fact some may even be going out on a limb by doing that.

Using the scenario of having 2000 times the minimum unit bet for a Bank ,it could be that those people can only get their hands on that amount of money.
Like 10c x 2000=$200 & 20c x2000=$400..Etc.

As You have said You bet in $5 or $10 bets now that would mean that a Lifetime Bank for $5=$10,000 And for $10 it is $20,000.

Now we know that Victor was playing $5 units & had a $10,000 Bank when He successfully put Food on the table for His Family from the Winnings on the Lw Method.

I used the same principles as Victor did Last Year only on a smaller scale. My minimum bet was $1.
Sometimes the min was $25 units
It depended on what table I was playing & its minimum unit.
I won just over $5200.
And that included $750 worth of losses.

I won't make that amount this Year due to Illness but I have still won just over 100% of My Bank so far.

Now lets assume that the person with a 10c unit won 2.5% a session. And he did the same as Me.
He would have won $520

So what's He done ??
He has made $520 for the Year...That's a 260% profit.

More importantly He now has Money that He can spend on His Family.
Money that He won from a 1st bet of 10c.

The point I am trying to make is that it did not matter what unit size was used the Percentages on starting Bank would have been exactly the same.

And lets face it in these economic times $520 could be a fortune to someone.

Now if You are a person that can afford a bigger unit Bet then that's great & I wish You all the very best.

But if You are a person that can only afford bets from 1c upwards and are being successful with it then take no notice of those that say You should be betting bigger...Block it out from Your mind.

The important thing is that You are enjoying Yourself doing it & if You are successful then You are developing a Winning Mindset.

Who knows You may develop or tweak something that will work for You & bigger & better things may happen for You further into the future.

Another very important point is that people have a threshold that they are comfortable betting with.

They can handle that when they are comfortable with that particular bet size.

Some freeze & just can't bring themselves to having that size bet.

Even Victor said this happened to Him about a year or so ago when He went to bigger units.


And lets face it if You are going to make a mistake is easier to recover from small betting units then large ones.

Like in the last 2 sessions I have played ,one as late as Yesterday I have won a total of $142.
That's not a lot of Money but they all add up & that's a 7.1% profit on My Bank.

I guess everyone has different ideas on what should & should not be done.

But if You're a small better don't be discouraged about it.
It's the percentage You win at the end of the year that will determine Your success.

And remember this .

Its not what You win that Matters .
Its how much You don't Lose that Counts.

Your Friend.


Lanky.

[NoBody]

For those who doesn't understand how the numbers come about.

Example:

36=6
23=4 4 4 (1,2,3,5,6)


First number 4 is the double street
Eg: 36 is the 6th double street, 23 is the 4th double street


Second number 4 is the distance of the double street in Chart 1.
Eg: 36=6, 24=4 --> so it is from 6 to 4

Chart 1

1
6 (Start from here till 4)
2 (1)
5 (2)
3 (3)
4 (4)-----> the distance from 6 to 4 is 4 numbers apart, so 4 is the second number


Third number 4 is the distance of double street in Chart 2.
Eg. 36=6, 24=4 --> so it is from 6 to 4

Chart 2

1 (1)
2 (2)
3 (3)
4 (4)----> the distance from 6 to 4 is 4 numbers apart, so 4 is the third number
5
6 (Start here, so coming down from the top)


The numbers in bracket (1,2,3,5,6) is the numbers that are missing.
Eg: 24=4 4 4---> we only have 4, (1,2,3,5,6) is missing.


There we have it:
23=4 4 4 (1,2,3,5,6)


I hope that solves your question eightfour.

Regards,
Nobody ^.^

[Kingpin]

Hi guys!

First of all THANK YOU Enrique for sharing this 

I have read through it all some times, trying to really understand this, and i think i almost get it.

Here's what confuses me:

I'm not sure, but i think the way Sam played it in the first video, is only ment to be used for tracking the D/S no. that is the most absent for x amount of spins. And then when knowing which one seems absent, you start using the corresponding charts. Is this correct Enrique?

If it's correct, then my next question is this: For how many spins should a D/S no. be absent, for you to play it's corresponding chart?

I hope i have expressed myself clearly, I really want to understand this fully.

Best Regards
Kingpin

[TwoCatSam]

Kingpin

I was doing it wrong in my videos.  All I was doing was this:  I used the two charts to select three d/s and I bet on the remaining d/s unless there were five.  I did not bet on the ones the charts selected, I bet on the ones not selected.  For example:

10=2 d/s
15=3 d/s  Now, using the charts, I have to get from 2 to 3.

2
3  2  1.......Now I would bet the three remaining: 4  5  6.

While this method may be wrong in that it's not what enrique meant, it's a pretty darn good way to play.  I think I will test it further. 

Sam

[Worm]

Just want to say thank you Sam for your videos. They helped me understand the system (even though it wasnt 100% correct  ) I think i pretty much get the idea now.

Take care  [smiley=Santa001.gif]
/Worm

[TwoCatSam]

Worm

(We have a bar in Oklahoma City called "The Wormy Dog")

Thanks

I may try this my "wrong" way as sometimes great things are discovered by accident.  Believe it or don't, the glue on a post-it note is such an thing!

Sam

[See_Jerek]

Jerek My Friend.

You & I have become good Friends & I know Your Heart Mate.....It's a good one Cobber.

Hello lanky,you are on a  different level as me,I regard you as a my mentor

And I don't think You meant that as it came out as it was written.

Yes some words are out of anger for the opression that I suffered by others for judge and accuse me of being a bad person with a lousy character

You are a good person & I have reason to thank You for things as well as You do to Me....So We are even in that regard.

You are a good Member to the Forum & are entitled to Your opinion My Mate....just like the rest of us are.

My dear mentor,my contributions to this forum is nothing compared to yours,you have spend time and effort trying to teach,explain and moderating the forum.If I am a good person/member then why do others accuse me of being a stalker for systems and not putting any effort at all in roulette,I am really hurt by that becos I did put in a lot of effort.

I am not going to Flame You as You put it but I am going to explain something to You from another point of view My Mate.
About those people that bet in 10 or 20 cents or even less.

It could be that is all that those people can afford to bet with at this stage of their life.
In fact some may even be going out on a limb by doing that.

Using the scenario of having 2000 times the minimum unit bet for a Bank ,it could be that those people can only get their hands on that amount of money.
Like 10c x 2000=$200 & 20c x2000=$400..Etc.

As You have said You bet in $5 or $10 bets now that would mean that a Lifetime Bank for $5=$10,000 And for $10 it is $20,000.

Now we know that Victor was playing $5 units & had a $10,000 Bank when He successfully put Food on the table for His Family from the Winnings on the Lw Method.

The really surprise me mate,it seems like I am putting big bets with a peanut bankroll of only 2000.

I used the same principles as Victor did Last Year only on a smaller scale. My minimum bet was $1.
Sometimes the min was $25 units
It depended on what table I was playing & its minimum unit.
I won just over $5200.
And that included $750 worth of losses.

I won't make that amount this Year due to Illness but I have still won just over 100% of My Bank so far.

Now lets assume that the person with a 10c unit won 2.5% a session. And he did the same as Me.
He would have won $520

So what's He done ??
He has made $520 for the Year...That's a 260% profit.

More importantly He now has Money that He can spend on His Family.
Money that He won from a 1st bet of 10c.

The point I am trying to make is that it did not matter what unit size was used the Percentages on starting Bank would have been exactly the same.

And lets face it in these economic times $520 could be a fortune to someone.

Now if You are a person that can afford a bigger unit Bet then that's great & I wish You all the very best.

But if You are a person that can only afford bets from 1c upwards and are being successful with it then take no notice of those that say You should be betting bigger...Block it out from Your mind.

The important thing is that You are enjoying Yourself doing it & if You are successful then You are developing a Winning Mindset.

Who knows You may develop or tweak something that will work for You & bigger & better things may happen for You further into the future.

Another very important point is that people have a threshold that they are comfortable betting with.

They can handle that when they are comfortable with that particular bet size.

Some freeze & just can't bring themselves to having that size bet.

Even Victor said this happened to Him about a year or so ago when He went to bigger units.


And lets face it if You are going to make a mistake is easier to recover from small betting units then large ones.

Like in the last 2 sessions I have played ,one as late as Yesterday I have won a total of $142.
That's not a lot of Money but they all add up & that's a 7.1% profit on My Bank.

I guess everyone has different ideas on what should & should not be done.

But if You're a small better don't be discouraged about it.
It's the percentage You win at the end of the year that will determine Your success.

And remember this .

Its not what You win that Matters .
Its how much You don't Lose that Counts.


Lanky thanks for all the advices,I will look into what you have said and really think about it,its being very stressful for me the past 2 weeks despite winning $5700,I have a bad feeling that I ma going to hit the wall very soon,its coming I know,I can feel it.this is a record breaking win ever since I started playing and I am feeling a bit paranoid of losing everything back.


Cheers mate.

[Kingpin]

@Sam

Yeah I get what you're saying mate, but I was talking about the other charts, these ones:

Hello. I will now print out the chart for all 6 double street numbers that can go missing.

no 1 on a 2. bet 2,4,6.
no 1 on a 3. bet 2,3,5,6.
no 1 on a 4. bet 2,3,4,6.
no 1 on a 5. bet 2,4,5.
no 1 on a 6. bet 3,4,5,6.
------------------------

no 2 on a 1. bet 1,4,5,6.
no 2 on a 3. bet 3,4,6.
no 2 on a 4. bet 1,3,4,5.
no 2 on a 5. bet 3,5,6.
no 2 on a 6. bet 1,3,4,6.
------------------------

no 3 on a 1. bet 1,2,6.
no 3 on a 2. bet 1,2,6.
no 3 on a 4. bet 4,5,6.
no 3 on a 5. bet 4,5,6.
no 3 on a 6. bet 1,2,4,5,6.
-------------------------

no 4 on a 1. bet 1,2,6.
no 4 on a 2. bet 2,3,5.
no 4 on a 3. bet 3,5,6.
no 4 on a 5. bet 1,2,5.
no 4 on a 6. bet 1,2,3,5,6.
-------------------------

no 5 on a 1. bet 1,2,3.
no 5 on a 2. bet 2,3,4.
no 5 on a 3. bet 1,3,4,6.
no 5 on a 4. bet 1,2,4,6.
no 5 on a 6. bet 2,3,4,6.
------------------------

no 6 on a 1. bet 2,3,4,5.
no 6 on a 2. bet 1,3,4,5.
no 6 on a 3. bet 1,2,4,5.
no 6 on a 4. bet 1,2,3,5.
no 6 on a 5. bet 1,2,3,4.
------------------------

I would like to know this: For how many spins should a double street number be missing, in order to decide what chart to use?

Enrique says that the one missing the most is no. 6. And therefore he mostly use the 6th chart, this one:

no 6 on a 1. bet 2,3,4,5.
no 6 on a 2. bet 1,3,4,5.
no 6 on a 3. bet 1,2,4,5.
no 6 on a 4. bet 1,2,3,5.
no 6 on a 5. bet 1,2,3,4.
------------------------

What I understand from this is: Dont bet the last hit street, and the 6th street because it's claimed to be absent...
However the other five charts seem to have different patterns, and that puzzles me. I hope Enrique will give a further explanation of this in his section...

And here's the last question: If we are using these six charts, then what is all the counting for (the way sam did in the video)?
My take on it is that this counting is used to determine which doublestreet numbers are absent. And then knowing this, being able to choose one of the 6 charts to use for betting...

I hope I haven't confused you guys, i'm just trying to understand this.

Best Regards
Kingpin

[See_Jerek]

Worm

(We have a bar in Oklahoma City called "The Wormy Dog")

Thanks

I may try this my "wrong" way as sometimes great things are discovered by accident.  Believe it or don't, the glue on a post-it note is such an thing!

Sam

Sam,the videos are always good.A picture tell a thousand words,it defines everything clearly.thanks for the effort

[See_Jerek]

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