A test of "Ten Spins to Win System"

[Number Six]

.......... no 6 are you gloating?

No, of course not! I have been here before. Problem is, the law of the third won't always behave in the way you want it to, hence the colossal drawdowns in Homeito's tests. I think the system can be made safer by controlling the progressions, maybe with a divisor, and introducing some MM. Testing is not a waste of time because you will see the system's strengths and flaws. It's just a matter of planning for the contingencies. Or maybe grinding out the profits over a longer session.

[simon]

No, of course not! I have been here before. Problem is, the law of the third won't always behave in the way you want it to, hence the colossal drawdowns in Homeito's tests. I think the system can be made safer by controlling the progressions, maybe with a divisor, and introducing some MM. Testing is not a waste of time because you will see the system's strengths and flaws. It's just a matter of planning for the contingencies. Or maybe grinding out the profits over a longer session.

I know, I didn't mean to imply that you were, just havin a little fun, you seem like a good guy (but you seem to have some enemies around here, I don't know why.)  You seem like a smart guy and it would be great if we could get you on board to improve this system, which is why Robert went to great lengths to share it...

[Homeito]

Hello,

As I sayed I have done some variation tests with added rules.
I tried two and three bets max. With and without progression.
I tried betting max 23 and 24 numbers and quit if more.

All tose four tests showed a LOT worse result than the original rules.
I will not bore you with a million tables showing negative results but if you do not believe me I have the files to prove it.


The problem in my opinion is that we bet too much sometimes.
(-Do you really mean that? )
A combination of how many numbers to bet and how many units on each number.

I think we need to find a limit there. Some way...

I do not really mind using a 300-400 units BR to gain 3 or 4 units. But I will avoid it if it is possible.
Really: A 1% interest for a couple of MINUTES... What is my YEARLY bank-interest? 0.5%?

But as Simon says who can be comfortable with risking 2000 units (about the same in € for me) in a few spins...
So I will make some more tests using some "do not bet more than X units" rules.
Maybe tonight. (Maybe )


Best regards,
Homeito Bemek

[simon]

hmm, that's disappointing, I swore I was seeing a predominance of wins on the first and second bets on my spins, to outweigh the losses.  I guess it was just lucky on the early limited testing I did.  still I need to go through all of them (six sets of 75 continuous spins from real 00 wheels) from all possible entry points.  if it wins handily I'm still going to try it (flat betting the system up to two bets) as I trust my own spins more than anything else (since I recorded them myself at a b&m casino), and they have been very difficult spins for any system to beat, as I have tested many systems on them (others and my own.)  I know it's a small sampling but I've always felt if any system beats my spins really well, then it's worth a shot at the casino.  I can post an upload of my spins, if anyone's interested (by just numbers, or with colors and/or dozens and columns.)  There are some very unusual runs of the columns, and a triple hit of a single number, etc.  A very good sampling of what can and will happen at the wheel. 

[celiza427]

Hey Simon

I'd be interested to see your results flat betting this system.  So far I believe I have had some luck at my side in my 300 spins so far (getting to the 4th bet with a big progression, yet winning) a loss is to come, I'm sure.  I'm just wondering if a  flat betting method might be a good way to steadily build up a BR.

[Homeito]

Hello,

I have tested this system because of the very promising first tests I saw.
Unfortunately I found several times that showed that a very large bank-roll must be used.
For example the 9/37 chance to lose 1900+ units... (Showed above)

So I made some more tests where I added rules to delimit bets or bank-roll.
"Added rules" means that whenever a original rule shall be followed it is also followed.
Secondly I follow my added rules.

I have compiled the results into days so there are seven lines in each test-result table.

Digest

MAKE 1 BET
* Always one bet & Always 1 u/number
[table=,]
Day   ,   Low,   End, Ses, Lost sess
Jan 01,  -16,  +56,  15,   6
Jan 02,  -37,  -18,   7,   4
Jan 03,  -38,  -17,   9,   5
Jan 04,  -56,  +68,  12,   4
Jan 05,  -40,  -16,  14,   7
Jan 06,  -17,  -14,   7,   4
Jan 07,  -34,  -33,  18,  10
[/table]

MAX 2 BETS (<36 u):
* Max two bets & Session BR = 35 units
[table=,]
Day   ,   Low,   End, Ses, Lost sess
Jan 01,  -34,  +40,  15,   6
Jan 02,  -37,  -18,   7,   4
Jan 03,  -75,  -73,   8,   5
Jan 04,  -56,  +52,  11,   4
Jan 05,  -57,  -48,  12,   6
Jan 06,  -35,  -32,   7,   4
Jan 07,  -68,  -68,  19,  10
[/table]

MAKE 2 BETS No Progr:
* Always two bets & Always 1 u/number
[table=,]
Day   ,   Low,   End, Ses, Lost sess
Jan 01,  -81,  -35,  18,   8
Jan 02,  -11,  -11,   9,   5
Jan 03,  -85,  -85,  11,   7
Jan 04,  -55,  +17,  14,   5
Jan 05,  -78,  -78,  14,   6
Jan 06,  -55,  -55,   7,   4
Jan 07,  -86,  -86,  21,  12
[/table]

MAKE 2 BETS (Max Progr = 2u):
* Always two bets & Max 2 u/number
[table=,]
Day   ,  Low,  End, Ses, Lost sess
Jan 01, -125,  -51,  18,   5
Jan 02,   -2,   -2,   9,   2
Jan 03,  -62,  -62,  11,   4
Jan 04,  -72,  -18,  14,   3
Jan 05, -147, -147,  14,   5
Jan 06,  -78,  -78,   7,   3
Jan 07,   -7,   -4,  21,   6
[/table]

MAKE 2 BETS (With Progr):
* Always two bets & Progress to profit
[table=,]
Day   ,  Low,  End, Ses, Lost sess
Jan 01, -125,  -68,  18,   5
Jan 02,   -2,   -2,   9,   2
Jan 03,  -75,  -75,  11,   5
Jan 04,  -69,   +3,  14,   3
Jan 05, -141, -141,  14,   6
Jan 06,  -72,  -59,   7,   3
Jan 07,  -28,  -28,  21,   6
[/table]

MAX 3 BETS (Max Progr = 2u):
* Max three bets & Max 2 u/number
[table=,]
Day   ,  Low,  End, Ses, Lost sess
Jan 01,  -125,  +30,  21,   5
Jan 02,   -2,   -2,   9,   2
Jan 03,  -111,  -111,  11,   5
Jan 04,  -86,  -33,  12,   3
Jan 05,  -73,  -57,  14,   5
Jan 06,   -8,   +5,   9,   3
Jan 07,  -22,  +86,  22,   6
[/table]

MAKE 3 BETS No Progr:
* Always three bets & Always 1 u/number
[table=,]
Day   ,  Low,  End, Ses, Lost sess
Jan 01,  -93,   -1,  22,  11
Jan 02,  -51,  -51,   9,   5
Jan 03,  -87,  -63,  12,   7
Jan 04,  -55,   +8,  15,   5
Jan 05,  -93,  -93,  17,   8
Jan 06,  -64,  -64,   9,   5
Jan 07,   -8,  +10,  24,  12
[/table]

MAKE 3 BETS (Max progr = 2u):
* Always three bets & Max 2 u/number
[table=,]
Day   ,  Low,  End, Ses, Lost sess
Jan 01,  -114,  +68,  22,   6
Jan 02,  -82,  -82,   9,   2
Jan 03,  -68,  -49,  12,   4
Jan 04,  -90,  -37,  15,   3
Jan 05,  -173,  -173,  17,   6
Jan 06,  -94,  -94,   9,   3
Jan 07,  +18,  +133,  24,   6
[/table]

MAKE 3 BETS (With Progr):
* Always three bets & Progress to profit
[table=,]
Day   ,  Low,  End, Ses, Lost sess
Jan 01,  -88,  +91,  22,   5
Jan 02,  -162,  -162,   9,   2
Jan 03,  -55,  -32,  12,   4
Jan 04,  -122,  -69,  15,   2
Jan 05,  -102,  -102,  17,   5
Jan 06, - 135,  -135,   9,   3
Jan 07,  -10,  +69,  24,   5
[/table]

My personal conclusion is that this system is not for me.
And also that the first only positive tests-results was because of too limited tests.
End of my testing.


Best regards,
Homeito Bemek

PS. If some one want to check the files it is OK. Just ask.
I will save them for a while but not for ever.

[Homeito]

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