Bots

[birdhands]

I'm new to bots, never used one, and I'm wondering who on here has used them.  I'm not really interested in what system was used or whether it worked; I'd just like to know what I'm in for before I pay someone to build one for me.  Do the casinos notice or care?  Can you run the thing all day long every day on a grind?  Really, any information would help.

Thanks everybody,
Sam

[darrynf]

i used a bot, the casinos dont care cause none can beat them.

if you made one that dose win all the time then they would care.

i dont think a casino can detech them but i could be wrong, but they will know if you are winning, yes you can keep them running all day, if its going fast then they would know, sometimes they message you and no response then close the table down.

i dont think bots have the capacity to think like a human, so thats why they dont win. just an observation.

[ADulay]

Do the casinos notice or care?  .....  Really, any information would help.

Thanks everybody,
Sam

Read your signup agreement very carefully.  And then read it again, slowly.   You will eventually find that part in there about "artificial" wagering or mechanical wagering or something similar.

To the online casino community that means a BOT.

Evidently the guys who use them say they work just fine once tweaked.

But once again, read the fine print of your sign up agreement.   Use of a BOT is not authorized and will get your account closed and you might just forfeit all winnings/cash at the time.

Personally, I hope your bot plan works out just great and runs for many years, just don't come complaining if they accused you of "mechanical" play.

AD (no actual experience with bots, so take my advice with a grain of salt)

[ADulay]

   What the heck, as long as I'm on this kick and have some free time, here's the relevant portion of the agreement at my online casino.  This stuff is buried pretty deeply in the agreement and takes about two cups of tea to get through the whole thing if you actually read it.   Better to just "edit" the document and search for "BOT".   



The basis of account suspension or intervention can be determined and verified by management via current cheating and collusion detection practices and software which are used in the gambling and gaming industry at the relevant time and are defined as follows:

Fraudulent practice is defined as use by you or any other person participating in any activity using the same account as you via the use of a stolen, cloned or otherwise unauthorized credit or debit card to fund said account.

Criminal activity is defined as money laundering and or the pursuit of any other legally punishable offence.

Unfair advantage is defined as the exploitation of a fault, loophole, or error in any of our existing software's.  Also included is the use of automated players also defined as 'bots'(Robots, or Spiders).

Collusion is defined as the use of multiple accounts to gain an unfair advantage over the software and/or over the intended rules and limits per account as related to our listed terms and conditions.  This includes the use of beards and movers as a medium of placing wagers or any other use of our existing software's.

yada-yada-yada.

[darrynf]

that should be bull,

the only way to win is to find loopholes and they are telling you if you win to much they will bann you!

I didnt know that, seems like away to get out of paying people,

[birdhands]

I think they mean software loopholes.

Once again ADulay, big appreciation your way.  Seems like the safest bet is to not arouse suspicion in the first place, ie. don't win too much on one account.  Maybe I'll open 10 accounts and win a reasonable amount on each one.  Any ideas of ways they catch bot users?

Sam

[ADulay]

Maybe I'll open 10 accounts and win a reasonable amount on each one.  Any ideas of ways they catch bot users?

Sam

Well, on the 10 accounts thing, they also cover that too, in the fine print.   Besides that, you'd have to have 10 different banking accounts or address for that to function.

I would strongly suggest that anyone playing online for real money actually READ and REREAD your player agreement.  It may be "fine print" but it's YOUR money.

AD (starting to sound like a broken record now)

[birdhands]

That's exactly what I mean, 10 accounts, 10 bank accounts, addresses, names, etc.  I'll give my friends a cut.

Sam

[darrynf]

well either way, i dont have enouth money in my account for them to be concern and any winnings i make from a session i take out straight away, so if they did try that then i would still have more money then what was left in my account then i would open at a different casino.

i wouldnt bother reading anything because they are going to do what ever they want to do, im just trying to stay under the radar, i thought about making different accounts but i didnt want to lie about it and i notice they knew how many accounts i have, same name and every thing, just a different login name, i didnt want to give them an excuse not to give me my money.

but theres alot of casinos, what i want to is achieve about 200 a casino a week, that would be alot of casinos accounts the only reason i havent done this yet as i dont have the money right now and my system is fairly new but when i have the funds i will be playing alot of different casinos.
i dont know if this is the safe way but either way i win.

[pins]

dream on boys.

[birdhands]

Real positive Pins.  Thanks for your contribution.

[birdhands]

I think "collusion" and the multiple accounts rules mostly apply to things like poker.  In roulette it doesn't really matter how many people are playing and if they know each other.

[birdhands]

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