Look at this spin result,I am K.O.

[bakonlin]

I played French roulette at Prestige casino,look at this spin result:
2 -15- 0 -20- 29 -34- 0 -20 -2 -0- 34- 0 -34,could not continue, b.r.gone,K.O.I bet red black only,martingale.
I just want to believe that online roulette is random,but seeing this result make me doubt.

[TwoCatSam]

While your trot is unusual, it is certainly not out of the norm for roulette.  I've seen similar.  00020  Four 0 in five spins.

Sam

[mcmonaco]

I played French roulette at Prestige casino,look at this spin result:
2 -15- 0 -20- 29 -34- 0 -20 -2 -0- 34- 0 -34,could not continue, b.r.gone,K.O.I bet red black only,martingale.
I just want to believe that online roulette is random,but seeing this result make me doubt.

--That's usual...but wait till you soon get 14 reds and you on blacks on martingale.
  House with swimming pool gone.Martingale???

[Steve]

While your trot is unusual, it is certainly not out of the norm for roulette.

sums it up. But keep in mind some rng casinos are literally rigged so you cannot win. Some casino software providers openly advertise this, to casino owners.

scams are everywhere on the net. why would a rng casino in costa rice be any different?

[TwoCatSam]

Hmmmmmmmmmm

I thought UK casinos were regulated.

No?

[RobbieD]

Steve

Whilst I respect you are part of the 'Admin Crew' and you say some of the RNG Casinos are corrupt, there are Casinos that are not rigged.

To counter every possible bet requires programming to an amazing degree. Are you telling me that every time I lay a certain bet the Casinos have a line of programming to counteract it? Get real Steve, you are talking rubbish.

Put quite simply, the nature of roulette does not require intervention by a reputable Casino, and you know that.

It should be part of your remit to point out to other members that Roulette cannot be beaten.

I would appreciate it if you would agree with me that Casinos have no need to manipulate their software.

[ausguy]

Rob - This RNG cheating thing is not new on these forums. If you go to "search" on this forum and punch in "Documented Proof of Cheating RNG Software." Click on that to get to -The 1st post on page 1 by VLS  dated Oct. 7  2010 shows the promo. material of RNG for casinos ( not meant for "us" gamblers eyes ). Some links to RNG programmers now don't connect, as the discussions started about 18 months ago?

Read all the pages on that thread. And also go on line and research how poker/slot machines function as they form the $$$$$ basis of other RNG casino games; Roulette, blackjack etc.
The bottom line for casinos, no matter what game, is guaranteed profits. In order to get their money they need to manipulate the results.

The programming speed is in micro seconds and would be based on a profit and loss platform. To achieve profit all the program does is avoid the total bets that would give the casino a loss.
Thus the ball, for roulette, is "dropped" into a no/low bet number pocket.

The program probably does not need to win every spin? Just like the Poker/slots. They "milk" the gambler with "small fish" wins as the punter tries to catch that elusive "big fish"?
It is in this way that they comply with payout rules but still make fat profits.
Sure someone could win thousands on just one spin? However how many lose only the casino knows.

The program would not need to analyse all the bets of every player? On line who knows how many are playing the game?

Do lots of research on this Rob and I'm sure your point of view will change?

I, like many other posters on the forums have been "fleeced" by RNG. It is for this very reason that we, 100%, avoid playing any RNG games.

Any gambling business survives on the very simple fact that more "punters" lose than win.

[ReDsQuaD]

Steve

Whilst I respect you are part of the 'Admin Crew' and you say some of the RNG Casinos are corrupt, there are Casinos that are not rigged.

To counter every possible bet requires programming to an amazing degree. Are you telling me that every time I lay a certain bet the Casinos have a line of programming to counteract it? Get real Steve, you are talking rubbish.

Put quite simply, the nature of roulette does not require intervention by a reputable Casino, and you know that.

It should be part of your remit to point out to other members that Roulette cannot be beaten.

I would appreciate it if you would agree with me that Casinos have no need to manipulate their software.

Yeah, that's a sure sign of respect. People are so damn ignorant its untrue. You just came steaming in without obviously doing any research - same old story.

Read here : nolinks://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=1598.0 There is the proof you will ever need to realise that RNG is not fair.

[ausguy]

Rob - Reds link is the same VLS info. 2 days apart in 2010 = C. C. & VLS forums.

[TwoCatSam]

Here is the question I've always wondered about:  I'm playing RNG.  Is the number that comes to me the same that comes to hundreds of players, or is it mine alone?

UK is a 9 bob...........

I have no idea what that means.  Explain please.

Sam

[ausguy]

Nine bob note would be a local UK thing for something phoney? Before they brought in decimal pounds etc. in the 1970's a pound was made up of 20 shillings. A bob was the slang/household name for a shilling. Here in Australia I remember a ten (bob) shilling note (pre decimal 1966). 2 ten bob notes = 1 pound ( aka QUID - slang ). Not sure if the poms had a ten bob note?

There's many versions of this, like the non existant $3 note. Other sayings that mean things aren't quite right include - a sandwich short of a picnic, 19 & 6  in the pound ( 6 pence short of a quid), 99c in a dollar, my favourite is "he's not the sharpest tool in the shed". I suppose the 3 trillion Zimbarbwe note will eventually get a run too. I believe e bay has them @ $10 each.

What all this reminds me of is how inflation has devalued things over the decades. In England they had a farthing = 1/4 penny, a 1/2 penny & the penny. To think today that you could buy things with those small amounts probably into the 1950's? In Oz some years ago they phased out the copper 1c  2c coins. 5c is now the lowest. There's not much you can buy even for 1 dollar these days. Many dropped 5c coins are left on the ground, most people walk over them.

B & M casinos have also become more expensive. The casino in Sydney phased out the $2.50 chip roulette a number of years ago. The $5 chip table is the lowest there now. Of course they have cheaper RNG games & live dealer touch screen rapid roulette with lower minimums.

[TwoCatSam]

Ausguy

Thank you for that education.  Made me a bit peckish to read it for some reason!  "Phony as a three-dollar bill." is said over here.

Her elevator doesn't go to the top floor.........
He's a few bricks shy of a load....
Not the brightest bulb in the fixture.......
So ugly she'd make a freight train take a dirt road...

BUT..................

Do youse guys think the number the RNG spits out is just for me or for thousands playing at the same time?

Sam

[ReDsQuaD]

TwoCatSam - RNG spits out different results for each player.

[ausguy]

TCS - When I played RNG at BVI (British Virgin Islands) casinos in 2010, such as Blackjack Ballroom & Yukon Gold they had a microgaming platform. What I noticed was even though I may
not have played a particular account for months the display marquee would still show my previous numbers & the "white" ball was still in the last drop.

So it didn't matter if it was a few seconds or a few months the RNG program was waiting for my next bet.

I saw the RNG described as being like a large wheel with 100's of millions of roulette spin combinations. This way the casino can accommodate an unlimited number of players, most if not all at different parts of that combo wheel.
When you think about it, the spins are always ready to go as soon as you click on spin. Say there's 1000 players on line, most, if not, all will be playing at different speeds so a common spin like a live wheel would not work in the context of play on demand, either fast or slow?
Poker/slot machines are a version of this concept with linked interactive jackpots.
With micro second processing speed the RNG program can assess the running total of all players bets. It would then decide which players lose and who wins?
The operative words with RNG is total casino play control.

I played about 20 sessions on RNG over 9 months in 2010. Not once did I finish the play with a profit. I was playing the even chance bets with a decent bankroll and a fair progression.
I lost about $2,000 in total and for I me saw it was a lost cause.

This is why I haven't played RNG since 2010. For me RNG is a no go zone.   
 

[ausguy]

TCS - Just to add the RNG I refer to is on line betting from my home pc.
RNG at casinos like Vegas star is a different version of roulette. The underlying platform is still the same, I. E. the casino always makes its preset profit. You may well win often?  Those other punters on the other nearby terminals are more likely to be losing?

If anyone can win consistantly on the RNG at the casino, session after session, I'm yet to hear it on these forums?
Picking those repeating sequence numbers would need to be tested over many sessions.
I think the program would recognise target betting and throw in a curve ball to make your bet lose where necessary? Remember the computer knows your bankroll(s) and your profit and loss.

It would be very interesting to get an insiders account of how all this operates. From what I see this ain't gunna happen as IT people won't bite the hand that feeds them, which is pefectly understandable. IT people in the casino world earn big bucks.

[ausguy]

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