Just to let those who don't know better know, I lost $200 on this 'system' very quickly. I called called the online casino and they gave me $25 back in insurance.
The roulette wheel can and WILL do anything. I'm hesitant of now playing systems which cause you to go so deep so quick.
I shouldn't have to bet $55 on a second loss.
Is there another system that isn't so high stakes?
Not only that Nate, two posts and the person is slamming methods. I would wait a bit. Ken
Ken ,On second thought I just did. :ok:
N.D.
you lost 200$... so what?
oh wait... Steve will tell you how to win!
here
nolinks://nolinks.genuinewinner.com/truth.html (nolinks://nolinks.genuinewinner.com/truth.html)
read why have you just lost, then go buy his system/computer, but quick he is thinking about stoping the sale because his computers are too efective :thumbsup:
It is the only system that genuinely beats roulette consistently...
I just did work for steve if somone is wondering.. soner or later it would come to this...
Quote from: Mr J on August 25, 2010, 11:11:43 AM
Not only that Nate, two posts and the person is slamming methods. I would wait a bit. Ken
Wow...
Umm ok....thats another thing I have been wrong about in the last few months? :girl_wacko: It is becoming more difficult for you to 'get me', isn't it? :haha: Ken
Quote from: Mr J on August 25, 2010, 12:59:13 PM
It is becoming more difficult for you to 'get me', isn't it? :haha: Ken
Actually it's so easy that I don't have to do anything, it just happens. ;D
Nope, wrong answer. What you are WAITING for is for me to EXPLODE with foul language towards you or the other soggy bottom boys. You want that so you can say...."See, see! Thats the Ken we know". <<< Keep WAITING my friend. I win and you dont. Ken
cartman says respect my authoritah!!!! (nolinks://nolinks.youtube.com/watch?v=7hkcZilKChI#)
MrJ was doing his job as a moderator by pointing out something that was rather peculiar.I find nothing wrong with that so I deleted my reply to the author.
N.D.
Quote from: Mr J on August 25, 2010, 01:15:09 PM
Nope, wrong answer. What you are WAITING for is for me to EXPLODE with foul language towards you or the other soggy bottom boys. You want that so you can say...."See, see! Thats the Ken we know". <<< Keep WAITING my friend. I win and you dont. Ken
Don't worry, I couldn't care less what you do, I already know what a bitter insecure jerk you can be, and the people I consider smart here all know it (yeah I'll name names: Davey, Herb, Jackal, Number 6, Bombus, Bayes..), and no they are not all AP's so don't cough.
This mod thing is probably the only "authoritah" you had or will ever have in your life, enjoy it, have sex with it. Just stay away from my posts and my freedom of speech. This is the free interwebs, not North Korea.
"This is the free interwebs, not North Korea" >>> Tell Steve that AFTER you have used foul language towards others. I dont own the board. If I did, well, you know the rest.....
Quote from: Mr J on August 25, 2010, 11:11:43 AM
Not only that Nate, two posts and the person is slamming methods. I would wait a bit. Ken
Wow! That ridiculous. First of all... Crush is not me. And I love the fact that when someone new comes here asking for help, a moderator craps all over him because he has a low post count. WTF! He's new and having trouble, and THAT'S how you treat him? Ken, you wonder why people call you names. Read your own selfish posts for a change. Please do not delete this as I am not calling you any names. And I am not being unfair. You are the one who is being unfair with your arrogant attitude towards new players.
@Crush It's probably not a good idea to bet money on a system that you read here. Beside the fact that systems cannot win in the long term, the sheer lack of support you will recieve from VLS members and moderators should be enough of a reason to not bother with them.
Aside from the opening post by Crush there were 11 other posts . One of them was very cynical about the author`s loss of $ 200 .00.
My first post which I deleted was of a positive nature and and in all candor I am glad to have done so considering the current negative mindset prevailing on this board.
If there are so many "compassionate" people here on this board why did no one come forward with a positive reply to the author?
There is still time to do so..
Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!
Look at how Ken treated this guy, and look at how you agreed with him and removed your post (which attempted to help). Don't blame it on "the negative mindset of this board" when it was just you following Ken (cough).
Quote from: NS on August 25, 2010, 07:15:14 PM
Look at how Ken treated this guy, and look at how you agreed with him and removed your post (which attempted to help). Don't blame it on "the negative mindset of this board" when it was just you following Ken (cough).
Thank you.
once bitten twice shy
I do not regret my action at all. . Can`t this board ever move on and reply to Crush and stop the bickering ?
I did have a doubt in my mind that I even replied to Crush therefore when I read Mr J `s comment I acted .
N.D.
Quote from: Davey-Jones on August 25, 2010, 04:10:06 PM
@Crush It's probably not a good idea to bet money on a system that you read here.
Happy?
Systems cannot win in the long term and are a sure way to burn your money up. Avoid them. Anyone who claims that systems will win are either outright lying, curve fitting their results, or haven't played a large enough sample of spins.
"First of all... Crush is not me" >>> I did not say he was. Lets try this AGAIN. Crush is new....welcome aboard Crush BUT I will be keeping a close eye out. I dont need Nate to help me do this, I'll do it. When there are FEW posts and some method slamming......well, lets not be too naive. Lets wait, lets watch etc. Again, its something SIMPLE, that has to be made into something difficult. I agree with Nate, lets MOVE ON. If NS and the other soggy bottom boys dont want to do so, I won't lose sleep over it. I have 50 other things going on. Ken
Quote from: Mr J on August 25, 2010, 10:50:38 PM
"First of all... Crush is not me" >>> When there are FEW posts and some method slamming......well, lets not be too naive.
He lost money playing a system. You make it sound like every system is a winner when you say that. He was playing a system that lost and he is ASKING for another SYSTEM that isn't so high stakes. Where exactly in his original post is he method slamming? He's just asking for help.
I SAID....fine, let him post, have a blast BUT there have been *MANY* new posters with the same M.O. At least do you agree with that? You won't trap me DJ, you're not that clever and I *ALWAYS* think ahead of what MIGHT be going on. Does it mean I'm correct 100% of the time? Nope but the 'what ifs'..... I always have covered, always! Ken
Social anxiety can be fixed with counselling.
You can crack a thousand jokes if you wish. In the end, I still know whats what and you HATE that and if you HATE that.....it makes Ken one happy guy. I win and you dont. :sarcastic:
Quote from: Mr J on August 26, 2010, 06:27:22 AM
I win and you dont. :sarcastic:
That's the funniest joke of them all!hahahaha! :lol:
Its actually the second funniest, I had a chat with your ex-girlfriend. :sarcastic:
From what I can see, ken is trying to be civil, an he's still being antagonized which makes for an unpleasant atmosphere. It is fine to disagree with people and have your opinions, just stop the personal garbage. I'm protecting or favoring anyone, and ken is not my sexual partner as you said via PMs Davey - I'm just maintaining forum integrity.
Ps, ken I can seer you are trying to avoid conflict, but best you dont bite back or it just goes around in circles. Everyone perhaps try to have a sense of humor about it all.
Quote from: Steve on August 26, 2010, 11:07:32 PM
but best you dont bite back or it just goes around in circles.
He tried but couldn't.
You're a great mod Ken, keep telling yourself that. We all believe you.
"You're a great mod Ken, keep telling yourself that. We all believe you" >>> I agree with the prior post made by Steve. Maybe I should lie and say I lose, that'll make the soggy bottom boys a bit more happy. Ken
Ken, you and Spike are just failed gamblers stuck on one up, one down systems. We've got your ticket. In the end, no one really listens to you because you're obsolete and you've blown what little cash you once had on crappy roulette systems. It's natural you should want the ideas of smarter people whose vision is more than one-dimensional and I understand that your lack of innovation is frustrating, but it's time to man up. I tested your "consistent winner", and it lost, this is why you now feel the need to hound me like some rat trying to bite my ankles. Get over it, chump.
You are correct DJ. You are the best and everyone knows this. Ken
Quote from: Mr J on August 27, 2010, 12:33:45 AM
You are correct DJ. You are the best and everyone knows this. Ken
FINALLY! Thank you Ken! :give_heart:
Quote from: Steve on August 26, 2010, 11:07:32 PM
From what I can see, ken is trying to be civil, an he's still being antagonized which makes for an unpleasant atmosphere. It is fine to disagree with people and have your opinions, just stop the personal garbage. I'm protecting or favoring anyone, and ken is not my sexual partner as you said via PMs Davey - I'm just maintaining forum integrity.
Ps, ken I can seer you are trying to avoid conflict, but best you dont bite back or it just goes around in circles. Everyone perhaps try to have a sense of humor about it all.
I would like protection please! Seeing as you are clearly offering and admitting to it out in the open. Sign me up! :thumbsup:
DJ is cool, gets tons of women, liked by everyone, makes tens of thousands via roulette (AP).
Quote from: Mr J on August 27, 2010, 12:52:55 AM
DJ is cool, gets tons of women, liked by everyone, makes tens of thousands via roulette (AP).
Very kind words Ken. I believe I had you all wrong.
Quote from: Mr J on August 27, 2010, 12:52:55 AM
DJ is cool, gets tons of women, liked by everyone, makes tens of thousands via roulette (AP).
Nah, he's just cool.
:lol: :P
"Very kind words Ken. I believe I had you all wrong" >>> You do.
This whiner Crush never showed his face again. He was under capitalized to begin with .
Betting $ 55.00 with a bankroll of only $ 200.-- was not only unwise but a demonstration of lack of understanding about proper money management.
Casino gaming is a form of entertainment. If on occasion one comes out ahead or one is able to keep losses to a minimum so be it. But TALL fish stories are only too commonm.
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!
Quote from: balint on August 28, 2010, 05:23:22 AM
Hi Ken , I think you really don t know with who you are talking .
Take an closer look at this two reply quote:
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Ken, you and Spike are just failed gamblers stuck on one up, one down systems. We've got your ticket. In the end, no one really listens to you because you're obsolete and you've blown what little cash you once had on crappy roulette systems. It's natural you should want the ideas of smarter people whose vision is more than one-dimensional and I understand that your lack of innovation is frustrating, but it's time to man up. I tested your "consistent winner", and it lost, this is why you now feel the need to hound me like some rat trying to bite my ankles. Get over it, chump.
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Medo, you and Hermes are just failed gamblers stuck on one up, one down systems. We've got your ticket. In the end, no one really listens to you because you're obsolete and you've blown what little cash you once had on crappy roulette systems. It's natural you should want the ideas of smarter people whose vision is more than one-dimensional and I understand that your lack of innovation is frustrating, but it's time to man up. I tested your "consistent winner", and it lost, this is why you now feel the need to hound me like some rat trying to bite my ankles. Get over it, chump
What have in common ? This :
It's natural you should want the ideas of smarter people whose vision is more than one-dimensional and I understand that your lack of innovation is frustrating, but it's time to man up. I tested your "consistent winner", and it lost, this is why you now feel the need to hound me like some rat trying to bite my ankles. Get over it, chump.
Number six= Davey-jones :sarcastic:
Trololo Without Autotune (nolinks://nolinks.youtube.com/watch?v=TNm6l4FwABE#)
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hahahahaha! You guys are idiots if you can't figure out why I copied and pasted that post. If you seriously think that I am number six, then you are trully hopeless.
These are the kind of guys that, when someone pushes a holy grail system on to them, promising unlimited winnings, and they test it and it fails, they sit around asking each other "what did we do wrong?"
"what did we do wrong?" >>>> A failed attempt by the typical moron. So now I'm 'we'? :ok: Ken
Quote from: advantagesnob link=topic=16837. msg119497#msg119497 date=1283007487
Here's what system players do wrong-
They ignore the math.
I would change your sentence into "Sometimes people who ignore math try to play systems"
......and another one to keep an eye on. Ken
Quote from: Mr J link=topic=16837. msg119536#msg119536 date=1283029777
. . . . . . and another one to keep an eye on. Ken
Weird way to argue. . .
Quote from: advantagesnob link=topic=16837. msg119497#msg119497 date=1283007487
Here's what system players do wrong-
They ignore the math.
Many system players believe the law of third can beat roulette.
Many system players believe probability can beat roulette.
That's what wrong with them.
Quote from: ivan19061 link=topic=16837. msg119557#msg119557 date=1283054608
Many system players believe the law of third can beat roulette.
Many system players believe probability can beat roulette.
That's what wrong with them.
I agree. Law of the third tells you what happens with a certain margin of mistake, but not when, that's what makes the system fail usually.
But it can be helpful to play under particular conditions.
As to say, you can't walk on water, but if you wait for particular conditions (i. e. temperature falling down) you might be able to do that as you'll be walking on ice.
Just to be clear, I'm still looking for the right temperature to come, still too hot here. . . :scratch_ones_head:
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