I came to this forum expecting to find in depth discussions of roulette strategies. Instead, I find these two self proclaimed "experts" Gizmotron and cheese filling every thread up with, whatever it is that they are talking about. I have no idea what that is, and couldn't find anyone else who understood it either.
Aren't there any moderators in this forum who can keep these people from taking over every single thread with their incomprehensible talk?
The name of this forum should be changed to The Gizmotron and Cheese Message Boards
Quote from: curious on April 12, 2011, 07:38:33 PM
The name of this forum should be changed to The Gizmotron and Cheese Message Boards
No, but there should be a basic warning that says don't join if your name is clueless, oops, I mean curious.
What ever gave you the idea that this was the welfare office? There is a basic rule in life. Never ever give a sucker an even break. When you find that forum that hands you a casino system that works like an ATM machine make sure that you blab it all over the world. Everyone will just love you for wrecking everything.
"VLS" is Martian for "Don't Be A Bonehead."
Surely, if the aforementioned experts were that good at Roulette, they would have no need to even venture near a Forum - they would be out spending their vast amounts of money they make each day.....
moderators don't have to shut up any opinion as long as it doesn't attack or insult anyone. As Steve once put it,
if someone believes that roulette can be defeated by voodoo practice, he can have that opinion.
For example, i am not particularly happy that u try to dictate me what to do and who i have to kick out of here because u personally don't like their discussion, but i am not going to shut u up because of this. As i am not gonna shut them up because u don't like their ideas.
If the discussion becomes too "hot" i am trying to cool it down, but as long as it is just a discussion about roulette,
it is gonna be here without any problems.
Quote from: Gizmotron on April 12, 2011, 08:10:12 PM
No, but there should be a basic warning that says don't join if your name is clueless, oops, I mean curious.
What ever gave you the idea that this was the welfare office? There is a basic rule in life. Never ever give a sucker an even break. When you find that forum that hands you a casino system that works like an ATM machine make sure that you blab it all over the world. Everyone will just love you for wrecking everything.
"VLS" is Martian for "Don't Be A Bonehead."
Lool.
Quote from: curious on April 12, 2011, 07:38:33 PM
I came to this forum expecting to find in depth discussions of roulette strategies. Instead, I find these two self proclaimed "experts" Gizmotron and cheese filling every thread up with, whatever it is that they are talking about. I have no idea what that is, and couldn't find anyone else who understood it either.
Aren't there any moderators in this forum who can keep these people from taking over every single thread with their incomprehensible talk?
The name of this forum should be changed to The Gizmotron and Cheese Message Boards
Look, there are different types of boards here. Have you checked the vishal balastics board? Bias? etc. Explore there also.
Quote from: iggiv on April 12, 2011, 08:29:59 PM
For example, I am not particularly happy that u try to dictate me what to do and who I have to kick out of here because u personally don't like their discussion,
The whole premise is ridiculous anyway. Go to my profile and click 'latest posts' and anybody can see I post in about 10% of the threads here, not ALL of them. The same for Gizmo. I don't even read half the threads, let alone post in them.
Quote from: RobbieD on April 12, 2011, 08:29:20 PM
Surely, if the aforementioned experts were that good at Roulette, they would have no need to even venture near a Forum -
Why is that? If I play roulette, should I join a knitting forum? Or how to arrange flowers? Does that make any sense?
Quote from: cheese on April 12, 2011, 09:05:50 PM
Why is that? If I play roulette, should I join a knitting forum? Or how to arrange flowers? Does that make any sense?
True, i agree.
QuoteLook, there are different types of boards here. Have you checked the vishal balastics board? Bias? etc. Explore there also.
What I was going to say.
Plus the only talk we stop are ones that break the rules. Examples are:
1. Abusive behavior, including constant "shit-stirring" to the point where they are trolling
2. Spamming or scamming
It is not good for a forum to stifle talk, except what is clearly unproductive.
Quote from: Steve on April 12, 2011, 09:14:28 PM
What I was going to say.
Plus the only talk we stop are ones that break the rules. Examples are:
1. Abusive behavior, including constant "shit-stirring" to the point where they are trolling
2. Spamming or scamming
It is not good for a forum to stifle talk, except what is clearly unproductive.
Before morons like forester and his sheep arc up saying I banned people just because they dont like me:
1. viper has had many fake names which breaks the rules. He knows this. same as toxic.
2. I cant recall why viper was originally banned, but toxic (whatever his original username was) was constantly attacking me. At first I responded to everything, and he just wasnt getting it. Any sound mind would know truth is on my side. It got to the point where I couldnt type anyhting on the forum without him trolling, so he got banned. He can have his opinion, but constant attacks against ANYONE are not accepted.
3. Manuelon was speaking absolute rubbish and going in circles. He has no idea of the stupidity of things he was saying. I banned him because he was getting personal, as people tend to do when the truth is too clear.
They'd all say I banned them because I didnt like what they said, which is rubbish. I have let many people attack me, including the occasional player of mine that didnt know what they were saying at the time. I WELCOME criticism, provided it is constructive. I WELCOME the opportunity to answer valid questions because I know the truth is on my side, and I like to show that. The problem is the people who ask the questions and attack me dont really care about the answers - truth is irrelevant. If you've been around long enough, you would have seen it many times. Including one moron who claimed his brother was scammed by me, and we followed logical questions, and eventually found he was forester's friend and that his imaginary brother didnt even exist. Many other cases, just wasted time. Where it goes too far is publishing private material and personal attacks.
Sorry for the footnote. My point is no legitimate talk is stifled as long as it's not breaking the rules. Not everyone is going to agree with each other, but thats life.
I find it interesting that you view calling people names, attacking them personally, (as Gizmotron has done to me and pretty much everyone else on here) etc as "legitimate talk".
I won't be bothering you fellars any more.
Quote from: curious on April 12, 2011, 11:55:32 PM
I find it interesting that you view calling people names, attacking them personally, (as Gizmotron has done to me and pretty much everyone else on here) etc as "legitimate talk".
I won't be bothering you fellars any more.
Gizmotron is a good guy. He tells it how it is. He also has 35 years of experience in roulette. Need i say more.
Quote from: ReDsQuaD on April 13, 2011, 12:05:13 AM
Gizmotron is a good guy. He tells it how it is. He also has 35 years of experience in roulette. Need I say more.
Do you actually mean what you typed above or are you having a laugh ???
I not sure, I'd like to know pls..... ;)
QuoteI find it interesting that you view calling people names, attacking them personally, (as Gizmotron has done to me and pretty much everyone else on here) etc as "legitimate talk".
I've said it many times. If someone breaks the rules, REPORT THEM. Neither me or the other mods can possibly read everything and keep up with who said what, who deserves what or whatever. All we see most of the time is what appears to be isolated name calling etc. Mods do not and should not need to be a judge of anything except who broke what rule, and what action to take. It is in the forum rules.
Just imagine if we judged everything. What a waste of time. If you dont report poor behavior AND give actual examples, nothing will be done about it if a moderator doesnt see it.
if someone attacks u let the Mods know, give the link. if I see someone insults someone I never tolerate it. but I don't read everything
Quote from: iggiv on April 13, 2011, 03:01:30 AM
if someone attacks u let the Mods know, give the link. if I see someone insults someone I never tolerate it. but I don't read everything
Gizmo gave me the finger earlier, does that count?
(https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinks%3A%2F%2Fth246.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg86%2Fmayofromthemp%2Fth_bum-giving-the-finger.jpg&hash=f7e14bee1b4d19f369a83f8aac516479bdc739b8)
Quote from: xman1970 on April 13, 2011, 12:13:57 AM
Do you actually mean what you typed above or are you having a laugh ???
I not sure, I'd like to know pls..... ;)
What do you think? I am not here to make people laugh.
Quote from: ReDsQuaD on April 13, 2011, 09:09:57 AM
What do you think? I am not here to make people laugh.
Well that's nearly an answer, & I guess that's all I'm going to get ???
& yes your right about the not making people laugh bit.... :good:
Quote from: xman1970 on April 13, 2011, 09:15:18 AM
& yes your right about the not making people laugh bit.... :good:
Gizmo been studying roulette for 35 years? And this is where he is with it? I've been studying it for 6 years.. I don't want to say anymore, I'll get banned for sure..
Quote from: cheese on April 13, 2011, 10:00:19 AM
Gizmo been studying roulette for 35 years? And this is where he is with it? I've been studying it for 6 years.. I don't want to say anymore, I'll get banned for sure..
Banned for what?
Quote from: xman1970 on April 13, 2011, 09:15:18 AM
Well that's nearly an answer, & I guess that's all I'm going to get ???
& yes your right about the not making people laugh bit.... :good:
What is your point? Am i missing something? I am not here to be rude to you.
Quote from: cheese on April 13, 2011, 10:00:19 AM
Gizmo been studying roulette for 35[37] years? And this is where he is with it? I've been studying it for 6 years.. I don't want to say anymore, I'll get banned for sure..
Cheese might be right about something. I think I do dig a few holes when I play the 24/14 odds bets (doz/col). What I never put together until today is that he takes about 30 to 40 spins to reach his 5-7 win goal. I know that I take at least 60 to 80 to get the same result. One thing happens in 60 to 80 spins, it changes twice as many times and it exposes me to a likely swarm of zeros twice as much. I look for anything that will give me a clue of what is currently happening in the doz/col bets. I need to really do an in depth study of the EC's. When I approached it before I was comfortable digging holes, like with the doz/col bets. That may have been a mistake, or a bad strategy. I wonder if I can grind away for hours just staying even, to gain experience doing it. In a way that would only be moving the goal post half way there. Perhaps the correct thing is to play where falling behind is unacceptable. Practice will tell. I know I have the skills to see clues that work. Could it be as simple as changing my comfort zone. This should be an interesting month.
Quote from: cheese on April 13, 2011, 03:33:09 AM
Gizmo gave me the finger earlier, does that count?
(https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinks%3A%2F%2Fth246.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg86%2Fmayofromthemp%2Fth_bum-giving-the-finger.jpg&hash=f7e14bee1b4d19f369a83f8aac516479bdc739b8)
depends which finger. if it was a point-finger, he may have been able to catch u on something. if it was a thumb-up,
good for u.
Quote from: Gizmotron on April 13, 2011, 12:00:14 PM
he takes about 30 to 40 spins to reach his 5-7 win goal. I know that I take at
I never said that. What I said was, most of the time I do it in far LESS than 30 spins, unless I hit a bunch of zeros.
Quote from: cheese on April 13, 2011, 10:10:41 PM
I never said that. What I said was, most of the time I do it in far LESS than 30 spins, unless I hit a bunch of zeros.
I can see that as being likely. If you start out in positive you could get 5 straight wins a few times. I just started over focusing on the EC's.
Quote from: curious on April 12, 2011, 07:38:33 PM
I came to this forum expecting to find in depth discussions of roulette strategies. Instead, I find these two self proclaimed "experts" Gizmotron and cheese filling every thread up with, whatever it is that they are talking about. I have no idea what that is, and couldn't find anyone else who understood it either.
Aren't there any moderators in this forum who can keep these people from taking over every single thread with their incomprehensible talk?
The name of this forum should be changed to The Gizmotron and Cheese Message Boards
Your right of course,Spike and Gizmotron are nothing but internet troll *modified*
bud, watch you tongue. Iggiv
Quote from: zippyplayer on April 14, 2011, 06:45:14 AM
Your right of course,Spike and Gizmotron are nothing but internet troll morons.
Who's the moron? Just about everything that I charged training money for is freely available from this forum's archives and in the archives at GG. The person you are posturing to impress came to this forum and demanded that I put up a demonstration. The archives will show that I never wanted a basic, simple, easy way to discover exactly what I do. A demonstration would show what I do. So the four years of effort disguising was supposed to be thrown out the door just to please a person that you seem to think is worthy of impressing. I told him to go look in the archives. And I told him to do the work. But he can't see that as helpful advice. So I'm forced to treat a person like that rudely. Do you need to be treated rudely too?
Gizmotron swam up Niagara Falls
Spike watched him do it
you two are best ignored
Quote from: zippyplayer on April 14, 2011, 01:10:14 PM
Gizmotron swam up Niagara Falls
Spike watched him do it
you two are best ignored
This thread proves my point, Gizmotron and cheese filled this thread up with total nonsense.
Is there an ignore feature on this forum? I'll just put these idiots on ignore.
Quote from: zippyplayer on April 14, 2011, 01:10:14 PM
Gizmotron swam up Niagara Falls
That's actually possible you know. A climber could ascend a long rope up it. It would be more swim than it would be rock climbing. It's done on the Eiger all the time.
nolinks://mastersofstone.com/?view=history (nolinks://mastersofstone.com/?view=history)
Look down the page to: Dan Osman "wet-tooling" Eagle Falls
Click on that picture. He's climbing a waterfall.