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Hit 'n' run

Started by toey, December 28, 2008, 05:03:04 AM

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hoper35

Then, yes, I would qualify.  :)

Wally Gator


pins

any chance of telling me your system

hoper35

I'm sure many others here do better than me.

I don't just play one system.  I play several with a fair bit of "intelligence" thrown in.  I have been doing best with outside betting of single dozens.  Roughly speaking, I bet last dozen spun after 2/3 losses or bet a dozen not shown in last 7-10 spins.  Both are played with a mild progression.  I usually am watching for the best opportunity at between 3 and 6 tables (This depends on which casino I'm at).  I vary where I stop my progression, depending on how I'm doing, how I'm feeling, or maybe by gut feel.

Lately I've tried Ronjo's dozens with similar results and sometimes I add single columns to the betting.  I wait longer to bet on columns.

I will also play for Dealer Signature if I can find it.


Ron.

JLP

Hi Toey & hoper,

Coincidences often occur.
This site sells an ebook that uses hit and run technique and also aims for 5 or 6 units profit session.
It seems is betting on 1 column and 1 dozen based on Law of the Third.

nolinks://nolinks.winning-at-roulette.com/the-edge/

================================

I remark some phrases :

-Very small bankroll needed - you need a table bankroll of 7 units (5 times reserve) and a 150 units lifetime bankroll
-No progression - just flat betting

Law of the third

It is a mathematical fact that within 37 spins about 2 thirds of the numbers appear - some appear twice or three times but one third won't appear at all. Just get 37 spins from a casino and check that yourself. As the dozens and columns are chances of the third this law can be applied best to those chances. In every series of spins you can see that 2 dozens and 2 columns appear more often than the 3rd dozen or coulmn. Mr. White developed a way to detect one column and one dozen to bet on and win. With this system you have the numbers and chances at your side!

We tested 'The edge' in a reputable online casino (Intercasino) - here are the results:

Day Result Overall
1 +5 +5
2 +6 +11
3 -7 +4
4 +5 +9
5 +5 +14
6 +5 +19
7 +5 +24
8 -3 +21
9 0 +21
10 +6 +27
11 +5 +32
12 +5 +37
13 +5 +42
14 +5 +47
15 +6 +53
16 -7 +46
17 +5 +51
18 +5 +56
19 +5 +61
20 +5 +66
21 +6 +72
22 +5 +77
23 +5 +82
24 +5 +87
25 +5 +92
26 +5 +97
27 +5 +102
28 -4 +98
29 +5 +101
30 +5 +106

We played 30 days in May 2002 at Intercasino
We were playing the rules as stated in the book
We always stopped when we had a plus of 5 units or more
We always stopped at -7 units or when we a 3rd circumstance took effect
We used 25$ units
After 30 days we had a total profit of 2650$

=====================================

-Bankroll session = 7 units
-According to this the sessions are very short (2-3 spins - hit and run).
-Bet 1D and 1C - that uses 2 chips.
So is 2 + 2 + 2 = 6 units (3 bets) ...... 1 unit out??? :o :o :o :-\ :-\
-But how to use the Law of the Third applied to dozen or column??

In every series of spins you can see that 2 dozens and 2 columns appear more often than the 3rd dozen or coulmn. Mr. White developed a way to detect one column and one dozen to bet on and win.

From this we get that makes a track maybe for 9 or 12 spins and counts which column or dozen is trending and bet on that 2 on those 3 or 4 spins flat bet.

What you think???

Cheers, :) :) ;)
JLP.-

moneyshot

I think Charles's view about the fact that one needs to appear to be a mug punter would only help prolong your ability to continue to make your daily withdrawls.

Make it appear like you also play slots or something with a high house edge.

Colin

Is any 1 useing the edge system and WINNING in other words is it a VG System .What you say . Colin

TwoCatSam

Colin

I had pictured you as being older!  ;D  Why, you're just a pup!

What is a VG system?  Visual Geography?  Geometry? 

Sam

JLP

Quote from: TwoCatSam on January 27, 2009, 05:19:47 PM
Colin

I had pictured you as being older!  ;D  Why, you're just a pup!

What is a VG system?  Visual Geography?  Geometry? 

Sam

Hey Sam,
I think Colin refers here to HG = Holy Grail

Cheers,
JLP.-

Colin

Sam the photo flatters i am an old grey dog by the way over here means Very  Good  .Cheers .Colin

JLP

Quote from: JLP on January 03, 2009, 02:41:32 AM
Hi Toey & hoper,

Coincidences often occur.
This site sells an ebook that uses hit and run technique and also aims for 5 or 6 units profit session.
It seems is betting on 1 column and 1 dozen based on Law of the Third.

nolinks://nolinks.winning-at-roulette.com/the-edge/

================================

I remark some phrases :

-Very small bankroll needed - you need a table bankroll of 7 units (5 times reserve) and a 150 units lifetime bankroll
-No progression - just flat betting

Law of the third

It is a mathematical fact that within 37 spins about 2 thirds of the numbers appear - some appear twice or three times but one third won't appear at all. Just get 37 spins from a casino and check that yourself. As the dozens and columns are chances of the third this law can be applied best to those chances. In every series of spins you can see that 2 dozens and 2 columns appear more often than the 3rd dozen or coulmn. Mr. White developed a way to detect one column and one dozen to bet on and win. With this system you have the numbers and chances at your side!

We tested 'The edge' in a reputable online casino (Intercasino) - here are the results:

Day Result Overall
1 +5 +5
2 +6 +11
3 -7 +4
4 +5 +9
5 +5 +14
6 +5 +19
7 +5 +24
8 -3 +21
9 0 +21
10 +6 +27
11 +5 +32
12 +5 +37
13 +5 +42
14 +5 +47
15 +6 +53
16 -7 +46
17 +5 +51
18 +5 +56
19 +5 +61
20 +5 +66
21 +6 +72
22 +5 +77
23 +5 +82
24 +5 +87
25 +5 +92
26 +5 +97
27 +5 +102
28 -4 +98
29 +5 +101
30 +5 +106

We played 30 days in May 2002 at Intercasino
We were playing the rules as stated in the book
We always stopped when we had a plus of 5 units or more
We always stopped at -7 units or when we a 3rd circumstance took effect
We used 25$ units
After 30 days we had a total profit of 2650$

=====================================

-Bankroll session = 7 units
-According to this the sessions are very short (2-3 spins - hit and run).
-Bet 1D and 1C - that uses 2 chips.
So is 2 + 2 + 2 = 6 units (3 bets) ...... 1 unit out??? :o :o :o :-\ :-\
-But how to use the Law of the Third applied to dozen or column??

In every series of spins you can see that 2 dozens and 2 columns appear more often than the 3rd dozen or coulmn. Mr. White developed a way to detect one column and one dozen to bet on and win.

From this we get that makes a track maybe for 9 or 12 spins and counts which column or dozen is trending and bet on that 2 on those 3 or 4 spins flat bet.

What you think???

Cheers, :) :) ;)
JLP.-


From what I could grasp from the site and the explanation they gave I tried to reconstruct the method simulating one session.
Here are the simulated rules :

Hit & Run System
Win target/session = 5 units.
Loss session = -7 units.
Bankroll session = 7 units.
Lifetime Bankroll = 150 units.
Flat Bet - no progression.

Here is the test.


Cheers,
JLP.-


mistarlupo

JLP,

I think this description matches one of Victor's ideas here...
Have a look at this thread: VLS' Mill - Flat betting plan
Well, it's probably slightly different approach, but looks like the same idea to me.

Actually, I'm doing tests on this and I'll have some results really soon.
If you've got some ideas, please do post. Unity renders power, you know... :thumbsup:

Regards,
m

JLP

Quote from: mistarlupo on January 27, 2009, 11:19:16 PM
JLP,

I think this description matches one of Victor's ideas here...
Have a look at this thread: VLS' Mill - Flat betting plan
Well, it's probably slightly different approach, but looks like the same idea to me.

Actually, I'm doing tests on this and I'll have some results really soon.
If you've got some ideas, please do post. Unity renders power, you know... :thumbsup:

Regards,
m

Hi mistarlupo,

You are right mate.
The approach is very similar (target 5 -10 units/session) - flat bet.
Only Victor works with only 1 Dozen or 1 Column at a time and not both.

Cheers,
JLP.-

Edgardo

Can be?

22   2   1            
7   1   1            
19   2   1            
30   3   3            
18   2   3            
29   3   2            
25   3   1            
33   3   3            
24   2   3            
36         2   -1      
12         -1   -1      
27   3   3            
19   2   1            
21         2   2      
9   1   3   -1   2      
2   1   2            
10         -1   -1      
8         -1   -1      
18   2   3            
9   1   3            
33   3   3            
10         -1   -1      
33         2   2      2
17   2   2            
1   1   1            
22         -1   -1      
12         2   2      
3   1   3            
10   1   1            
25         -1   -1      
14         -1   -1      0
14   2   2            
28   3   1            
14         -1   -1      
17         -1   -1      
6   1   3            
3   1   3            
10         2   -1      
36         -1   2      
2   1   2            
30   3   3            
8         2   -1      
2         2   -1      
2   1   2            
18   2   3            
18         -1   2      
0         -1   -1      
5   1   2   2   -1      
21   2   3            
0   0   0            
29   3   2            
23         -1   -1      
24         -1   2      
17   2   2            
26   3   2            
4   1   1            
17         -1   2      
7         2   -1      
7   1   1            
13   2   1            
12         -1   -1      
33         -1   -1      -3
11   1   2            
18   2   3            
6         -1   -1      
13         2   -1      
36   3   3            
2   1   2            
19         -1   -1      
3         2   2      
26   3   2            
3   1   3            
26   3   2            
11         2   2      
14         -1   2      3
3   1   3            
14   2   2            
4         2   -1      
17         -1   2      5
1                  
27                  

JLP

Hi Edgardo,

Wow!!! ???  :-X
That was a long run to get that 5 units.
Which progression are you using there - how is it??
Can you explain??

Cheers, :D
JLP.-

JLP

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