Does anyone on here actually make a living from roulette. . . I made about 500 quid two weeks ago using a similar method to 6x6 streets that hermes did. But im sure the live roulette gets wise and decided to attack me and lost the lot. . . :angry2: :angry2: :angry2:. . . Im new one here, but always read your posts with interest. What is the best/ or a good system to use. That wins in the long run. I love roulette but am getting the feeling you cant win, full stop. Please help :D :D :D
I do. And it isn't from selling systems online either. I have restricted my teaching to 10 people for personal reasons. That being said you should eventually come to the conclusion that you need to have a system that allows you to read the changes that occur when using your system. You need to target when you use it and how to make adjustments to it whenever the conditions suggest a change. In other words, Roulette offers you a chance to take advantage of conditions that are favorable to your system. Now if yo don't have that feature you need to find a system that allows for that. So find one that gives you that feature.
You wanted an answer, that's mine.
You're right it's a general topic or something like that.
you can win in the short term. but in the long term you will lose. if you pick a number of winning bets for a few weeks. the tide will turn and you will get a run of losers. ask the casino to show you the players records. no winners in the long term. the maths do not lie. but how ever you play its all pure chance. what has gone before has no bearing on what comes next.
Dear all,
If you start playing the game untill you have lost your daily BR or won a good night out, and the next day start playing a NEW game, then it is very possible you will lose on long term.
If you start playing the game untill you quit playing for that day and continue playing the same game on a next ocasion, then it is possible to win on long term.
What game to play is up to you, there are many techniques you can use.
Always make sure you play the longest game.
Yes, you can make profits depending on how much you wager and
Yes, you can win consistently, but with ups and downs, so you need patience.
You dont need to be positive, but being negative is a waist of time.
And always remember:
Good luck is often with the man that doesnt include it in his plans.
Warm regards,
Bob
George Orwell was here ( 1984)
U can not win in the long Run the maths doesn t lie and are working 400 yers now...and they will continue working as long as the game is still out there
--I do constantly.....no selling,no teaching.
Gizmo is man to take your money....and after his
lessons you will be so more confused and still be a loser,
lighter for 1000,00 bucks,ofcourse.
Quote from: Jean-Claud on September 08, 2010, 05:01:45 AM
U can not win in the long Run the maths doesn t lie and are working 400 yers now...and they will continue working as long as the game is still out there
Then why are you here? :-\
what the maths mean is though most people will lose. some will win all the time.
There are actually two questions here.
1. Who makes money week in and week out? (Or is in profit each month).
and
2. Who makes their living by roulette?
These are two very different scenarios.
Making money for a weekly or monthly profit is not all that difficult of a plan.
However, making a living from it is decidedly different. There are obviously way more things to consider from the professional player's perspective. For most people, the first thing they need to understand is just how much money they actually need from month to month, every month, every year. About 99% of the public doesn't know that and most of them don't even WANT to know!
With that said, the person who only wants to play "a game" to show a profit of some sort is in a much better position to do so needing only to win a few units of profit at a time to end up in the black at the end of the month. Not necessarily enough to run a household, but still in profits for the time period.
Making money? Not a big problem.
Making a living? A huge undertaking for sure.
AD
I choose the monthly totals over the weekly totals, its easier to keep track. Nothing difficult about roulette. Ken
QuoteThere are actually two questions here.
1. Who makes money week in and week out? (Or is in profit each month).
and
2. Who makes their living by roulette?
I do. :)
QuoteA well disciplined player is the one casinos fear most . One only needs to apply 7 strategic points to become a winner in a casino.
I disagree.
George Orwell was here ( 1984)
Sorry ND,
I agree with Herb.
If you have a longterm edge over the casino you do not need any strategic points. If you do not have a longterm edge over the casino it does not matter how many strategic points you have or use it will not make a difference...you will loose.
Jakkal has finally woke UP! :lol:
Quote from: Jean-Claud on September 09, 2010, 07:20:51 AM
Jakkal has finally woke UP! :lol:
I have woken up a long long time ago.........what's your excuse Viper?
Quote from: Nathan Detroit on September 09, 2010, 08:07:51 AM
jakkal also THINKS he knows what the 7 strategic points are. I did NOT even name them and they already know what they are .
I I could provide them but with this kind of attitude prevailing here I keep them for myself.Just the initials willl do.
1 )_B
2 ) K
3 ) M
4 ) D
5 ) T
6 ) L
7 ) T
That`s what the casinos hate when you apply those magic SEVEN !
Nathan Detroit
Lol......I don't need to know what your so-called strategic points are ND. It's all eye-blinds that gives a false sence of security......these so-called strategy points.
1 )_B = Bullshit yourself
2 ) K = Kneel and pray for the wind from behind and mercy from above
3 ) M = Moaning at the correct time so that the groupier will feel sorry for you
4 ) D = Duckingand diving behind the results board and table so that you are invisible to the casino
5 ) T = Table manners.....don't sit with your elbows on the table while playing
6 ) L = Luck .... if it wasn't for bad luck one would not have any luck at all
7 ) T = Teeth ..... brush your teeth before going to the casino....then smile open mouthed so that the glare from your teeth blinds the cameras
See....I know them all!
this topic went dead......again
Jakkal U were in the place where ND is once...
Kimo li BS...remember? :sarcastic:
Come on guys, let's at least make an attempt at staying on topic here.
If you can't do that, start your own thread of miscellaneous rantings.
AD
Quote from: Jean-Claud on September 09, 2010, 10:33:26 AM
Jakkal U were in the place where ND is once...
Kimo li BS...remember? :sarcastic:
What place is that Viper.....as I remember it you are the one with a billion billion HG's ;D up to only a few weeks ago. Sure the cycle will start all over again as usual. Ap.....no....systems.......no Ap........no systems and so on and so on.
As far as
Kimo Li goes. I still play his methods. Funny how you can say something is BS and know absolutely nothing about it. Please explain to me how Kimo's methods work (in detail please). THEN and only then please tell me why it is BS. Come on Vipy boy show us your lack of knowledge you wannabe rouletteplayer. Man I might not be the best of the best using GPM but I sure as hell can hold my own candle. You however with your silly little systems and elaborate money management schemes just don't cut it. Either you have a multiple personality disorder or you live in your own little World....somewhere in another Galaxy.
Quote from: foreverBOB on September 09, 2010, 10:32:27 AM
this topic went dead......again
The topic went dead again? Didn't you get people answering your question? How many people do you want to hear of that make money from roulette? What do you want to do with that info and what the heck is it good for? How do you know that whoever says they make money from roulette actually does? I know Herb does but come on! You think guys like ol' Spiko and Gizzy seriously makes money from roulette other than selling bogus systems and methods? Get real mate.
Thanks to all who replied... Like i said, Im new to this forum, but been playing roulette for a couple of years...
I love playing, but i am becoming frustrated with the game i love to play. I go on ladbrokes live casino, time flies on there playing and chatting to other players and of course..." The pretty dealers... ;D ;D...
I have paper traded a few systems on here, and done well, and then lost well...
I have a theory: If players are constantly winning, and casino not, where would they find out about the waythe play, and what system they use. I for one would look on forums, and look into them and then program, somehow to fix it against the way they play...
Might seem over the top, but i am sure they are people who work for online casino's who look into files of players when they are winning a lot, and see how they are winning. And then fix it to not win.
Does anyone believe that there is some kind of magnet or something else that can fix live roulette!!! If you can put a man on the moon, im sure you can make a ball land in a certain area!!! :angry2: :angry2:
This forum is way the best by the way... Would love to find a way to make constant money, i just need pointing in the right direction... ;D ;D :P
Anyway, off too work now... :(
Not that it would be accepted or believed, my profit split partners (and I) make money from roulette whether I sleep, holiday or whatever (roulette computer partners). If I gave full details, it wouldnt be believed, and would only seem like bragging asnyway
Quote from: Steve on September 10, 2010, 06:22:38 AM
Not that it would be accepted or believed, my profit split partners (and I) make money from roulette whether I sleep, holiday or whatever (roulette computer partners). If I gave full details, it wouldnt be believed, and would only seem like bragging asnyway
And yet you constantly do bring it up! ;D Then again who am I to say whether it is true or not. I'll keep my thoughts to myself as I'm sure you will appreciate that.
@ Paul
Believe me mate when I tell you that there are very very very few players here that consistantly make money from roulette. I'll go as far as to say there are very few that actually see the inside of a casino regularly, let alone profit from it.
You mention online casinos. Personally, and this is just my view. I would just stay away from online casinos. I do not trust them at all. RNG to me does not exist anymore. I stay way clear. 'Live' wheels online I don't trust either. Having said that, Dublinbet seems to be kosher. They have computer terminals in the casino apparently that gets the same feed as you and I at home. Apparently they are there for the players when the tables are too crowded.
Still I rather play B&M.
Cheers
Jackal
Quote from: Jakkalsdraai on September 10, 2010, 07:53:28 AMI stay way clear. 'Live' wheels online I don't trust either.
Jackal
OK, I'll listen up. Just why are the "Live" wheels not to be trusted? RNG I can understand as I don't play those either under any circumstances, but the "Live" wheel (and tables) don't bother me at all.
AD
QuoteAnd yet you constantly do bring it up! Grin Then again who am I to say whether it is true or not. I'll keep my thoughts to myself as I'm sure you will appreciate that.
Jakk, what is this thread about? Nevermind.. you always seem to have something to say about me. If you have a problem with me, good for you.
Quote from: ADulay on September 10, 2010, 04:13:17 PM
OK, I'll listen up. Just why are the "Live" wheels not to be trusted? RNG I can understand as I don't play those either under any circumstances, but the "Live" wheel (and tables) don't bother me at all.
AD
I don't trust online live wheels except for Dublinbet and other casinos using the same feed.
Online casinos using Philipines and Singaporian feeds are a no-no to me. I just do not trust the operators. There is no real way to determine if they are crooked or not. At least as mentioned before, Dublinbet uses the same feed as the computers in the actual casino. So there is a double reference for you.
Live wheels and tables in B&M is the way to go for me anyway. That is just my opinion Adulay. Paranoid or not! ;D
Quote from: Steve on September 10, 2010, 05:33:55 PM
Jakk, what is this thread about? Nevermind.. you always seem to have something to say about me. If you have a problem with me, good for you.
Don't see how I in anyway insulted you. I just stated the obvious and the truth and I kept my thoughts to myself, so yes .... good for me.
I make money from roulette. Taken a long time and I have lost a lot along the way but now yes I do consistently win.
Who actually makes money week in week out..
About 2% according to the statistics. This applies for different types of gambling as well. Casino gambling, exchange betting, sports betting. A good starting point would be to find out what the 98% do to continually lose and try and avoid the same mistakes. Some of these could be pretty easy to implement as well.
1) keep records.
2) Have a seperate account for gambling funds.
Admittedly these two alone will not turn anyone into a success overnight but it would be a step in the right direction towards a more professional approach.
On the top of the list of most semi professional / full time professional players 'good habits' list is DISCIPLINE. It is key. This words pops up more times than any other and it is not some tired old cliche. Without it, nothing else matters. I have not had a losing year at the casino since 2004. This year will be the first year I make a profit from exchange betting. It is all a learning curve and if you can force yourself to cut out all the bad habits that bleed your bankroll dry, maybe the worst that will happen is you break even. Now even that would be better than another year as a fully paid up member of the 98% club.
I went to see the bank yesterday. They told me that they just could not let me deposit more money in their vaults. There just isn't any more place.
Killroy was here!
Quote from: John Gold on October 07, 2010, 08:20:13 PM
About 2% according to the statistics. This applies for different types of gambling as well. Casino gambling, exchange betting, sports betting. A good starting point would be to find out what the 98% do to continually lose and try and avoid the same mistakes. Some of these could be pretty easy to implement as well.
1) keep records.
2) Have a seperate account for gambling funds.
Now even that would be better than another year as a fully paid up member of the 98% club.
Very true.
Keep detailed records. Not just "well, I broke even tonight" type of junk. If you won $33, note it! If you got killed because you were jerking around with the cigarette girl instead of paying attention, note it!
Do not mix money. Keep the separate gambling account and don't screw with it. It will be obvious if you're winning or losing by the month.
As I track my casino and online times very well, I can tell you exactly how I stand in the last week, month, year or overall and which system plays are working for me.
When you go to the casino, you're not there for entertainment, you're there to take money from them. Do your job, treat it like a job and it will pay you.
Go in goofing off and haphazardly throwing money all over the table and you'll be looking at a lot of red figures in your gambling spreadsheet.
AD (I get a monthly check from Bet Phoenix, thank you)
Quote from: Killroy Gentz on October 08, 2010, 03:20:39 AM
I went to see the bank yesterday. They told me that they just could not let me deposit more money in their vaults. There just isn't any more place.
Killroy was here!
It just happen to me the same :s
:sarcastic:
Seventy percent of all the people who enter a casino are ahead during their stay at one time or another. But ninety percent of those Seventy percent give it all back.
Something to be considered. :ok:
Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS !!!
Quote from: ADulay on October 08, 2010, 06:23:47 PM
...jerking around with the cigarette girl ...
LOL
So you played in the 70's? ;D
That will be the day when you find me among the 90 %.That`s the day when hell freezes over . :diablo:
I am one of the most disciplined players you could ever encounter.
Nathan Detroit
Not that it matters Herb6, but what is your credit score?
You see how Herb answers questions, hey? :sarcastic: If I was asks, I would say its private BUT at least I would answer you out of courtesy. You cant get that from Herb. Look at MOST of Herbs posts, very little value.
He won't answer questions.
Rarely does he start a thread or contribute to a thread regarding AP. Thats 'his way' of playing and yet, very few posts.
So whats left? The guy TROLLS around looking to argue, nothing more. If he quit the board tomorrow, what do we really lose out on? Its a serious question, I'm not slamming. (Oh, oh....watch. Here come the NEWER (lol) members to defend Herb ;) Ken