Best way of play to increase your BR with 1% per day?

[JHM]

Guys,

In relation to this topic nolinks://vlsroulette.com/general-board/food-for-thought-holy-grail/ (please read). I'm looking for the best way to increase your BR with 1% per day.

What would be the best bet or bets? When we lose, what is the safest way to recover?

Thank you in advance for sharing ideas.

J

[JHM]

I think a good bet would be a bet Matty here played (if I remember correct). I don't know if this is the way Mat played but here it goes:

Wait for a DS to his twice, than bet the 5 unhit streets.

When we start with 100,- we bet 5 streets 1,-.

If we win we have 5 - 4 = +1 profit.

100 + 1% = 101,-

What if the bet is lost............

[Marven]

Hi JHM,

Mate, at the risk of sounding negative, I need to first ask you: do you realize that playing 1 bet each day for one year is the same thing as playing 365 bets in one session, don't you?

Asking for this safe bet is the same as asking for the grail, i.e. a consistent winning bet mate.

The period of time across which you play your bet doesn't change the end result of your bet. So playing 1 bet every month for 4 years is the same as sitting at the casino and playing a session of 192 spins placing a bet every 4 spins, which is the same as playing a 48 session betting every spin.

But I see where you're coming from.
My point is that if you can find yourself a bet that guarantees a profit of 1% of your BR every session, then you're not obliged to play one session per day, you can play 10 sessions and win 10% per day. Finding this safe bet directly means finding the grail.

Ok now having said that, I am definitely keeping an open mind and would be looking forward to any ideas.

I believe this can (sooner or later) be achieved, be it on a personal, or even better on a collective level. We humans have achieved miracles since the beginning of history and won't stay forever beaten by a silly wheel.

Regards,
Marven

[JHM]

Marven,

If I understand your post above right, the whole 1% per day post doesn't make sense. Because it does not matter if you play to increase 1% per day or just visit a casino with your BR. Try to make 1% and continue to play to make another 1% on top of that and just don't leave the casino for how long you want to play.

I don't agree with you and I don't disagree, how you like that 

I hope Marven's post didn't scare the other members (knowing this would never be my friend Marvens intention).

Please help me brainstorming, I would like to risk that 100,- as an experiment 

[Marven]

I think a good bet would be a bet Matty here played (if I remember correct). I don't know if this is the way Mat played but here it goes:

If I remember correctly, Matty was playing the 5 Lines using the Lw. I'm playing this.

I think with proper strategy play, 1% is pretty achievable. It needs patience though especially when you lose and have to recover.

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I hope Marven's post didn't scare the other members (knowing this would never be my friend Marvens intention).

Please help me brainstorming, I would like to risk that 100,- as an experiment 

Ok here is what I do, and here is my practical contribution to this thread for my mate JHM, and for everyone reading this nice thread:

The Bet selections:

Actually I use 4 bets.
The 5 Lines (à la Victor)
The LD (which is 2 dozens of course)
My EC bet selection (follow the last on High/Low if you lose 2 cycles that is LLLL, play the opposite, if you see LLLL again, go back to following the last, and so on...)
My Single Column (playing the dominating column over the few last spins with this progression 1,1,2 if lost: 2,2,3. I sometimes use this with the dozens, but I prefer the columns now, they seem to show more streaks which I exploit)

(Note: sometimes I remove or add something to this list, for example remove the column thing and add the JD and Red/Black besides High/Low, or even something entirely new that I wanna try out, etc. I might also flat-bet on hot numbers/sectors or flat-bet against sleeping ones if I see fit. Nothing written in stone, I just try to use everything I know about roulette in the best way possible depending on the situation, and I'm winning more than I lose by doing this).

The Strategy:

This is THE real work. The above bets should be just 'tools' your strategy is the real play. Start looking at things this way and you will soon see the difference in your results.
Ok, here is what I do:
I keep track of all the above (can get a bit hectic, so it needs some practice) using an Lw registry, so my notebook looks like this:

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              Tracking
Lines: nolinksnolinkswwLnolinksnolinkswLLnolinks
LD: wwLLLnolinkswwLLwwLnolinksLLL
EC: wwLwLLwwLLnolinksLLLnolinksLw
Column: 223113331332332213322

            Placed Bets
Lines: ww
LD: w
EC: LwwLw
Column: Lw (+1) LLw (+2)

(So right now I'm 7units up. )
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And so on...

Betting:

I only place a bet when I detect a favorable situation, i.e. a concentration of hits.
Note: a concentration of L's can be profitable too.

Session Target:

At first, I set my session's goal to 1% of my BR.
BUT, if I reach my target easily and notice that the session went great, then I decide to invest more using my winnings.

Example:
Say I started with 100 and the session went like a charm and I have 110. I then continue playing using a 10 units BR and aim to win 3 or 5 or 10 more (depending on how good the session went) using the house's money.

Bankroll Management:

I use Victor's 50% plan, and I keep track of EVERYTHING. This is business. I track the Lw for every session and invest more when I'm on a good run of sessions and lower the investments and targets and increase caution with regards to my decisions when I'm having a hard period.

Example:

Sessions Registry:
wwLnolinkswwLnolinksnolinksnolinks <--- Here I'm in a profitable time.
nolinksnolinksnolinkswLnolinksLwwL <--- Here not so much, better be careful!


So far I have been winning (and learning) reasonably well. If this is just "luck" then well, I hope it continues.

Hope that helps.

Best of "luck",
Marven

[Wally Gator]

@JHM,

Here's my take on the 1% per day.

Just for a minute, forget about the math.  Forget about science and physics.  Just for a minute .....

Let's say that everything you've learned about math and science and physics is correct and everything everyone on this forum has stated about the maths and physics is correct.  Okay?  But, just for a minute, forget about it.  Okay?

Now, let's assume that no matter what bet you place it will eventually fail.  It is absolutely, 100% guaranteed to fail.

Now, let's assume that you employ multiple systems and bias strategies, etc .... on a single day and, combined, they are absolutely, 100% guaranteed all going to fail, consecutively.

So, the only question left is when?

Let's say that it is absolutely, 100% guaranteed that the day of failure will be the day after you die.  Now what?

If you start with a lack of confidence in your belief, it is 100% guaranteed you will fail.  Forget roulette.  It does not matter what the opportunity.  You will fail.  You will fail because you believed you will fail.  You see, my friend, failure, just like success, is a state of mind.  It's not what happens to you that matters, it's how you handle what happens to you that matters.

[TwoCatSam]

Wally Gator

The last paragraph of your post is priceless.  And I once paid for it in a lecture!!

Sam

[Marven]

Regarding my post above,

Here is a tip if you want to use my way of play to get that 1%:

After you choose your bet selections, get to know them.
Take a week of your life, and do this (using real actuals or from live wheel feeds):

Sit down and keep track of the Lw's the way I described, but don't bet!
Just keep track of things. Learn how things go. See the good times. See the bad times.

For every bet selection, know what 'usual' outcomes are, what 'good' outcomes are and what 'bad' outcomes are.

By the end of the week, you'll have a good feel of things and you will start to learn how to read every situation, then you are ready to learn how to act accordingly.

Strategy play is a 'learned' skill, don't use it for real money unless you learn it first.

Note: When I was talking above about being subject to the house edge, I was only talking about mechanical betting. Like playing 12 numbers without a strategy.

Cheers,
Marven

[Wally Gator]

@ Marven,

Strategy play is a 'learned' skill, don't use it for real money unless you learn it first.

Your quote cannot be understated.  Thank you.

Gator

[mistarlupo]

Wally Gator,
Great post, buddy! It's really encouraging to read that kind of stuff from time to time.

But...

How about all these people who used to believe but eventually lost everything?
There are many, we all know.

Basically, I agree with you... but only if we forget roulette (as you said).

Because roulette is game of maths, not game of faith.
At least this is my personal opinion.

All the best,
m

[Marven]

Because roulette is game of maths, not game of faith.
At least this is my personal opinion.

Hi mistarlupo,

I respect your opinion mate. But mine is that, in roulette, maths alone won't get you anywhere, just as faith alone won't.

Wally was talking of this kind of "faith" as a necessary component in the astute player's attitude, not as something to be relied on exclusively, and I agree with that.

Maths alone can't beat the game and that's why mechanical systems fail eventually. Blindly playing a mechanical/mathematical system makes the player learn not to think, take decisions, or react to the game.

You can't build a robot and ask it to become a successful business man.

I believe that an intelligent/trained human being can win 1% consistently.

How? Well that is the question, isn't it?
Part of being human is that we have different ways of doing things and thus different things work for different people.

Regards,
Marven

[Wally Gator]

@mistarlupo,

Good point.  Thanks.  Here's what I think regarding the maths.

Should we believe that 365 days of play are no different than 365 sessions of play in a single day?  Mathematically it's all the same, right?  This is accurate if we are to blindly play a system without regard for any of our surroundings, such as the wheel, the dealer, the ball size and weight, the air temperature, and the location.  This would also be accurate if we did not take into account our attitude for the time at play, our mental focus, health and ability to make decisions.  Would that be accurate?  If so, when was the last time that you know of someone who played under these conditions?  Because if you truly believe in maths these are the conditions from which you should play, right?  There should be no guess work whatsoever.  But, playing this way, you would already know the outcome, right?  Without question, the system will eventually lose.

Again, it's a choice of how you wish to play.

My belief is that there are dynamics which take place between all facets of play.  From the construction of the wheel and ball to the dealers spin of the ball, to the air pressure in the room, all of it, as well as our own spirit if you will.  There is no single way to play.  Each of us must decide that for ourselves.

I shared my thoughts about all this because I truly believe that it is not that difficult to consistently gain 1% of a bank in the long term.  I believe that there are multiple ways to do it, but primarily through situational play.  One must continually 'read' what's going on around them and make decisions based upon what they believe.  If that means counting numbers or ball revolutions or what have you, then that's what you should play.

For me, the only caveat that I personally have is to ensure I have multiple strategies based upon multiple dimensions for any situation that may occur.  Flexibility is very important to me.  Just as important is patience.

[Marven]

Very good post Wally.

Thanks,
Marven

[roules]

I think a good bet would be a bet Matty here played (if I remember correct). I don't know if this is the way Mat played but here it goes:

Wait for a DS to his twice, than bet the 5 unhit streets.

When we start with 100,- we bet 5 streets 1,-.

If we win we have 5 - 4 = +1 profit.

100 + 1% = 101,-

What if the bet is lost............

The zero is also covered in this bet but why risk 5 or more units for a return of 1 unit. Is betting 5 times as much really worth the extra 25-30% chance of winning? Surely E/Cs make a better proposition but each to their own of course. I would recommend Baccarat for any E/C strategy though, the 5% commission on the banker is well worth the price of not having a zero or two imo.

[Lanky]

Strategy play is a 'learned' skill, don't use it for real money unless you learn it first.

Preach it Brother Preach it.......Your Best so far Mareven....Real good Mate.

That is the best discription I have ever seen.

And I read every post every day.

@Wally.

Don't You be put off mate.....
You know I try To win 2.5% per session and This year was My worse Year only 81% profit on starting Bank.
Remember Mate Figures can Lie Percentages DON"T.

Good on Ya Mates.....Lanky

[Lanky]

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