The Holy Gral or G.U.T the Great Universal Theory

[winkel]

Hey Winkel I want to take this system test on another level.. Would you type main points how to decide when you decide that it is too risky to bet and when it is safest to bet..

currently system is running on +105u I am testing with hamburg spins on RX

Hi Boo_Ray,

I will answer here.

risky:
1. The crossing shows to bet, but the group to bet on did hit more than 4 times in a row just before:
19-11
18-12
17-13
16-14
15-15 risky to bet the 15
2. There is more than on crossing available
13-13-12-12
11-13-13-11
3. It there is no clean wave to come up
a clean wave = 14-13-10-6 or 11-14-13-6
bad waves = 14-9-14-9 or 11-13-10-12
4. The "0" are too much in front
spin 20 19-18-2
spin 21 18-19-2
spin 22 18-18-3
spin 23 17-19-3
spin 24 17-18-4
spin 25 17-17-5 bad bet

best bets:
all groups had a hit in the last spins
17-14-10-2
17-13-11-2 (1)
16-14-11-2 (0)
16-14-11-3 (2)
15-15-11-3 (0)

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[winkel]

todays RNG-chart give a good example of bad und good bets

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1 7 36 1 0 0 0
2 16 35 2 0 0 0
3 19 34 3 0 0 0
4 35 33 4 0 0 0
5 32 32 5 0 0 0
6 36 31 6 0 0 0
7 14 30 7 0 0 0
8 27 29 8 0 0 0
9 11 28 9 0 0 0
10 1 27 10 0 0 0
11 3 26 11 0 0 0
12 32 26 10 1 1 0
13 5 25 11 1 1 0
14 1 0 1 / 0 0 25 10 2 2 0
15 27 0 1 / 0 0 25 9 3 3 0
16 19 0 1 / 0 0 25 8 4 4 0
17 22 0 0 / 0 0 24 9 4 4 0
18 29 0 0 / 0 0 23 10 4 4 0
19 26 0 0 / 0 0 22 11 4 4 0
20 9 0 0 / 0 0 21 12 4 4 0
21 21 0 0 / 0 0 20 13 4 4 0
22 7 0 1 / 0 0 20 12 5 5 0
23 26 0 0 / 0 0 20 11 6 6 0
24 3 0 1 / 0 0 20 10 7 7 0
25 17 0 0 / 0 0 19 11 7 7 0 Average 18 numbers hit at spin 25
26 30 0 0 / 0 0 18 12 7 7 0
27 22 0 1 / 0 0 18 11 8 8 0
28 29 0 1 / 0 0 18 10 9 9 0
29 25 0 0 / 0 0 17 11 9 9 0
30 33 0 0 / 0 0 16 12 9 9 0
31 33 0 0 / 0 0 16 11 10 10 0
32 22 0 2 / 0 0 16 11 10 9 1 good mix 3x"0", 2x"1", 1x"2"
33 6 0 0 / 0 0 15 12 10 9 1
34 8 0 0 / 0 0 14 13 10 9 1
35 4 rr 14 0 G 22 22 13 14 10 9 1 good bet
36 5 0 1 / 0 22 13 13 11 10 1 bad decision to make 2 crossings
37 25 rr 13 1 V -13 9 13 12 12 11 1 the wave is good again 13-12-11 (first 12 is sum ">1")
38 34 rr 13 0 G 23 32 12 13 12 11 1 bad decision to make 3 crossings
39 15 0 0 / 0 32 11 14 12 11 1 bad decsion because in spin 40 just 1 triple-number
40 7 rr 11 2 V -11 21 11 14 12 10 2 lost you can see the triples are bound to grow
41 15 rr 11 1 V -11 10 11 13 13 11 2 bad decision to make 2 crossings but all chances had a hit "0" didn´t hit since 3 spins
42 13 rr 11 0 G 25 35 10 14 13 11 2 risky to bet the 14-13 due to missing triples it is more likely that they will grow
43 1 0 2 / 0 35 10 14 13 10 3 now a triple has hit 14-13 is now a good bet because 1-0-2 is the hit-row
44 8 nr 14 1 G 22 57 10 13 14 11 3
45 32 0 2 / 0 57 10 13 14 10 4
46 7 rr 10 3 V -10 47 10 13 14 10 4
47 6 rr 10 1 V -10 37 10 12 15 11 4
48 1 rr 10 3 V -10 27 10 12 15 11 4
49 29 0 2 / 0 27 10 12 15 10 5
50 36 0 1 / 0 27 10 11 16 11 5
look at the last hits 1 2 3 1 3 2 of course the last one is a 1



as you see if there are rhytms play on them

[Boo_Ray]

Thanks alot for tips on optimal play [smiley=afro.gif]
I will do tests tomorow because it is getting late here..

[Spike]

Constructive criticism is a very good thing to have on a gambling systems forum. >>>

No No NO, critisism of any kind is detrimental to the creativity of the system designer. He will learn the hard way, through the loss of his BR, that no mechanical system will ever beat roulette. The designer should be allowed full reign, with no opposition, so that he can discover the error of his ways in his own fashion..

[RouletteBR]

Winkel,

Are you think that is reliable make a bot to play using this system 24 hours/day? I made some bots in the past, to play using martigale based system, but it wiped out my entire bankroll...

Thanks.

[winkel]

I don´t trust bots!

Every OC will have a control of players being around for 24 hours making bets.


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[winkel]

If we want to bet on "numbers that not appears"
Column 0 vs 1 OR 0 vs 1+2+3+>3. The different must be 0 or 1

so it is

If we want to bet on "numbers that appears once"
column 1 vs 2+3+>3. Can it be column 1 vs 2 only or must be sum of 2+3+>3??

both are possible

Am I heading to the right direction?

Yes

@all

please note that the sums are only going straight upwards, so you can´t bet them "falling"

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[bobco]

I played longer than usual today with this. My goal is just to make a win or take a loss that is as small as possible. I could have stopped at - 7 units but I continued too see how it would do. Was down to -75 but I was amazed to see how good it recovered to - 20. Could have stopped there but played one more time. Stopped at - 35. Still in plus over the time. The more experienced you get, the better you play I guess.

I only compare  the hits 0-1 and 1- 2 >. Find that more easier.

[winkel]

Hi,

first of all you didn´t use the Stopp-Loss-Rule: bet Trigger with 12 numbers max. 3 times (you have closed with +14)

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Coups Permanenz R N F Rr Nr Fr lfd. Saldo R N F F2 F3
1 31 36 1 0 0 0
2 36 35 2 0 0 0
3 36 35 1 1 1 0
4 5 34 2 1 1 0
5 19 33 3 1 1 0
6 23 32 4 1 1 0
7 28 31 5 1 1 0
8 28 31 4 2 2 0
9 30 30 5 2 2 0
10 5 30 4 3 3 0
11 31 30 3 4 4 0
12 22 29 4 4 4 0
13 16 28 5 4 4 0
14 36 0 28 5 4 3 1
15 0 0 27 6 4 3 1
16 30 0 27 5 5 4 1
17 8 0 26 6 5 4 1
18 35 0 25 7 5 4 1
19 31 0 25 7 5 3 2
20 16 0 25 6 6 4 2
21 14 0 24 7 6 4 2
22 22 0 24 6 7 5 2
23 7 0 23 7 7 5 2
24 29 0 22 8 7 5 2
25 8 0 22 7 8 6 2
26 35 0 22 6 9 7 2
27 16 0 22 6 9 6 3
28 15 0 21 7 9 6 3
29 10 0 20 8 9 6 3
30 27 0 19 9 9 6 3
31 6 0 18 10 9 6 3 at this point and if you are experienced: 4 "0" in a row bet on "1" possible
32 6 0 18 9 10 7 3 *look*
33 35 0 18 9 10 6 4
34 6 0 18 9 10 5 5
35 4 0 17 10 10 5 5
36 33 nr -10 16 11 10 5 5
37 15 nr 15 16 10 11 6 5
38 36 15 16 10 11 6 5
39 8 15 16 10 11 5 6
40 21 15 15 11 11 5 6 because "0" are still very slow another crossing 11-11 is playable
41 19 nr 40 15 10 12 6 6 *look*
42 28 40 15 10 12 5 7
43 0 40 15 9 13 6 7 bad wave as described a few posts earlier: best Idea is to jump back
44 25 40 14 10 13 6 7 here a bet "0" vs ">1" is possible 14-13
45 18 40 13 11 13 6 7 *hit* and another cross 13-13
46 13 40 12 12 13 6 7 *hit*
47 33 rr 28 12 11 14 7 7
48 16 rr 21 12 11 14 7 7
49 35 rr 14 12 11 14 7 7
50 33 14 12 11 14 6 8


if you had played like this (I know and therefore I recommend a lot of testing) it needs experience

here the results:

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30 27 0 19 9 9 6 3
31 6 0 18 10 9 6 3
32 6 nr 26 18 9 10 7 3
33 35 26 18 9 10 6 4
34 6 26 18 9 10 5 5
35 4 26 17 10 10 5 5
36 33 nr 16 16 11 10 5 5
37 15 nr 41 16 10 11 6 5
38 36 41 16 10 11 6 5
39 8 41 16 10 11 5 6
40 21 41 15 11 11 5 6
41 19 nr 66 15 10 12 6 6
42 28 66 15 10 12 5 7
43 0 66 15 9 13 6 7
44 25 66 14 10 13 6 7
45 18 rr 88 13 11 13 6 7
46 13 rr 111 12 12 13 6 7
47 33 rr 99 12 11 14 7 7
48 16 rr 92 12 11 14 7 7
49 35 rr 85 12 11 14 7 7
50 33 85 12 11 14 6 8


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[winkel]

I´m sorry

my table shows "0" "1" ">1" "2" ">2" that might be confusing.

simple bet rule: The chance to bet vst the next chance or  vs the sum of all higher chances

0 vs 1 or >0
1 vs 2 or vs >1
2 vs 3 or vs >2

also

0 vs 2 or >1
1 vs 3 or >2

and again: be carefull: sums are not falling!!!!!!! You can only bet the lower Chance to fall under the sum

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[TwoCatSam]

Just stopping by.......

I've run this sucker a few times and I find that if you only waited for a low-number crossing between 0 and 1--say 14 vs 13 down to 12 vs 11--this thing has a pretty salty win record.

I do not have time to put it to the proper test.  Still, it looks very good.

Sam

[winkel]

I´ve been asked several times on PM:

Is it possible to learn your other system? Like the big game and the other 3?

1. my English isn´t good enough to describe the other one´s
2. They are much complicated and need the daily spins of the Casino-Table (or 24hrs-spins of RNG) they should be played on. They base on a combined TimeWindow and Tendency-Watch on the combination of the "0";"1";">1"
3. If you are interested and can read German The basics are here: nolinks://nolinks.roulette-board.de/index.php?showtopic=2376&view=findpost&p=36812
4. Part of "Homebooking System" here in this forum
5. Pattern-System on EC´s here: nolinks://nolinks.roulette-board.de/index.php?showtopic=2377&view=findpost&p=36819

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[Lohnro]

Just stopping by.......

I've run this sucker a few times and I find that if you only waited for a low-number crossing between 0 and 1--say 14 vs 13 down to 12 vs 11--this thing has a pretty salty win record.

I do not have time to put it to the proper test.  Still, it looks very good.

Sam

I have found this exact thing Sam!

[madupz4]

Just stopping by.......

I've run this sucker a few times and I find that if you only waited for a low-number crossing between 0 and 1--say 14 vs 13 down to 12 vs 11--this thing has a pretty salty win record.

I do not have time to put it to the proper test.  Still, it looks very good.

Sam

I have found this exact thing Sam!

When I was testing I was seeing the same thing.  Perhaps we can figure out when the optimal times are to place bets on all the different crossings to maximize our wins and minimize out losses?

Winkel, surely from your extensive testing you must've noticed trends where you were seeing higher than average wins at different times?

[winkel]

Sorry, don´t let me be misunderstood:

What you are trying leeds you into "Gamblers Fallacy"

e.g. if you were only playing one crossing 14-13 on "0"vs"1" you will have the natural probability of 14/37 and you will loose your -2,7% long Term.

Therefore we have to play all possible crossings at any time they appear.
What´s the difference:

In average we will loose 2 times winning 1 times.

[table=,]   ,      ,   results   ,      ,      ,      ,   
# to bet   ,   1 W   ,   1L/1W   ,   2L/1W   ,   3L/1W   ,   3L/2w   ,   tot
17   ,   19   ,   2   ,   -15   ,   -32   ,   4   ,   -22
16   ,   20   ,   4   ,   -12   ,   -28   ,   8   ,   -8
15   ,   21   ,   6   ,   -9   ,   -24   ,   12   ,   6
14   ,   22   ,   8   ,   -6   ,   -20   ,   16   ,   20
13   ,   23   ,   10   ,   -3   ,   -16   ,   20   ,   34
12   ,   24   ,   12   ,   0   ,   -12   ,   24   ,   48
11   ,   25   ,   14   ,   3   ,   -8   ,   28   ,   62
10   ,   26   ,   16   ,   6   ,   -4   ,   32   ,   76
9   ,   27   ,   18   ,   9   ,   0   ,   36   ,   90
8   ,   28   ,   20   ,   12   ,   4   ,   40   ,   104
7   ,   29   ,   22   ,   15   ,   8   ,   44   ,   118
6   ,   30   ,   24   ,   18   ,   12   ,   48   ,   132
   ,      ,      ,      ,      ,      ,   
   ,   294   ,   156   ,   18   ,   -120   ,   312   ,   660

[/table]

What we do by playing all combinations: we try to produce a constant win by a mix of all results!!!!!!
Therefore we have to risk to loose in extrem a set of all combinations like Boo_Ray did

If we are in a loosing streak on 14-13, there will be winning streaks on the other combinations which recover our bankroll
If we avoid winning on ohter combinations we avoid recovering.

The less we play the more we loose!!!!!!!

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[winkel]

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