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The Holy Gral or G.U.T the Great Universal Theory

Started by winkel, August 20, 2008, 09:42:05 AM

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facu_portla

I've been playing G.U.T. in a way I've find really useful and I can say I'm increasing my winnings every time I play BUT, I'd be pleased to know if someone has any strategy to know when to quit if you're facing a bad day and when to quit if you're facing a good one.

Thanks!

Nico
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winkel

Quote from: facu_portla on November 08, 2009, 01:57:23 PM
I've been playing G.U.T. in a way I've find really useful and I can say I'm increasing my winnings every time I play BUT, I'd be pleased to know if someone has any strategy to know when to quit if you're facing a bad day and when to quit if you're facing a good one.

Thanks!

Nico
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That´s what I call "Gambler´s Intelligence"


It will be a result of experience.

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winkel

sharp

Before you start to play a game of roulette, set your stop loss - set it to a level of your bankroll you are willing to lose, set it at a level so that if you hit your stop loss you can remake it in your next session or 2, always set a stop loss and stick to it. Never chase losses.

Set a Target to win, set it at a reasonable level, hit the target and quit playing your system for the day.

As with the GUT i play the GUT alot and do well with it. After a time you can get a feeling that things just are not going well, get that feeling ? then its time to quit.

facu_portla

Thanks for those who replied to my question!.

Despite I've been winning with G.U.T. I think It would be good to set a target loss and a target when winning.

I've been thinking about 3 theories knowing that G.U.T. is a strategy, thus, wins in a long term, so, here are my 3 thoughts:

1) Quit when I'm -30 or when I'm +50
2) Quit when I'm -50 or when I'm +30
3) Quit when I'm -50 or when I'm +50

The values are not real but I'm trying to focus on the way you think it'd have to be played. I'd keep with the second one because, thinking in a long term strategy (GUT), those lossing will be backed up by the winnings I will get another day as winnings should be over the losses in a long term.

That said, It be grateful if you could share any thoughts about this.

Thanks!
Nico
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TwoCatSam

First, let me congratulate Winkel on his own section.  This must rankle the curd of his detractors!! 

Porta

What I found was this:  You're either having a good day or a bad day or swapping money.  While I'm not advertising for the bots and the G.U.T. has not (to my knowledge)  been programmed into one, let me say that I see the same thing playing the bot.  "Some days are diamond; some days are stone.  Some days the bad times won't leave you alone."  What I found with the G.U.T. was that if you went through your first fifty spins and things were going well, continue on.  If you were doing badly--very badly--during that first fifty, go ahead and jump back.  Winkel said, "You want to ride this dead horse to spin 50?" and he's right.  Get a fresh perspective.

If you're doing slightly bad at spin fifty--say down 20 or 30 units--jump back and if the second run is just as bad as the first, then you are just having a bad day and you might as well quit.

I have learned when you apply a certain set of rules to a roulette wheel or RNG, some days the casino will just absolutely conform to what you're doing--positive trams--and some days you can't win for losing--negative trams.  I have seen this with every system I've ever played.

This is why some poor devils will find a system that wins for a few hundred spins and think they have the key to the mint.  They just found a positive tram.  Tomorrow it may all change.  I saw this with the G.U.T., the 4Selecta, my Chicco/Murph and now with the system I'm testing with Super Roulette.

Now breathe this in:  If you were going to do a trot of a hundred spins and half way through you could determine for "certain" that you were on a positive tram and it would continue to win until spin 100--how much would you bet?  What if you could not be "certain" but you could say with a 70% certainty you were on a positve tram?  How much would you bet?  I am doing such a study--among others--with Super Roulette.  Using the settings I am using, I find that when two exact things happen within a certain number of spins, you can almost bank on the graph line going up.  I would bet money this is also true for the G.U.T. and the 4Selecta if they could be graphed over 2,000-spin trots for 500,000 spins or more.  I firmly believe any system would.  That is why, if you're still with me, systems start out winning and then tank.  It's called beginner's luck--and you're beginning a system!

Victor, was it Manrique who said, "The trend is your friend"?  I think he knows what I am learning.

Winkel, thanks for letting me blow and good health to you, Brother!

Sam

VLSroulette

Quote from: TwoCatSam on November 13, 2009, 11:38:15 AM
Victor, was it Manrique who said, "The trend is your friend"?  I think he knows what I am learning.

Manrique learned: "There is no system" the hard way.

When he was starting, he devised many mechanical systems and presented them to his "roulette coach" at the time, but then his roulette teacher would look at the positive results and ask: "Test a thousand more" (spins). Of course, they didn't have computers to test, so all of it had to be done manually.

And if there still were positive results, he would then ask again: "Test a thousand more", until the system would eventually break.

And so it did with each and every system a "roulette young" Manrique devised. Until the time where Manrique said "You always make me do a thousand more, no matter how positive the results. I'm not making one more system".

And then the coach said to his friend:

- Ah, he's wising up, he finally realized there is no system.




And this is very true.

In reality, there is no system that wins infinity; there are only "waves" within the systems.

Mr Chips

There is nothing wrong with a system, providing it's a 'complete' system. It must contain certain
essential components, providing information, when to exit a session and a minimum loss strategy.

I could sit at a roulette Table for millions of years, sure I wouldn't be a pretty sight ;D but I would still
be making a profit with the Signum and 4Selecta systems.

I consider the G.U.T has essential components and Winkel will correct me if I am wrong, he expresses
them in a different way to myself.

Programmers who suggest coding such systems, as referred to above, generally just don't have
a clue about the experience, which can only be found in a human player to get the best out of such
systems and when there is a losing session to exit with a minimum loss or break even, having made
an informed decision during the session.

Richard

seykid29

Hi Winkel,I  was wondering do you always play this on Live Wheel? What has been your biggest profit? Personally i find this way of playing too many tracking for me.But it figures many are enjoying your way..and winning.

TwoCatSam

kid

Winkel posted many graphs from RNG, live and touchbet.  He can play anywhere.

As to the tracking, use Track4 software.

While it may be a monumental task, reading this entire thread would be helpful.

Sam

seykid29

So it seems its your favourite and you are doing nicely yourself!? But when playing Live,the tracking is tedious i guess.

TwoCatSam

Quote from: TwoCatSam on November 13, 2009, 01:14:23 PM
kid

Winkel posted many graphs from RNG, live and touchbet.  He can play anywhere.

As to the tracking, use Track4 software.

While it may be a monumental task, reading this entire thread would be helpful.

Sam

Read the red.  It is not tedious at all.  You plug in the number than came and Track4 does the rest.  Watch my videos!  They will tell you more than anything.  There are five or six of them.  Go to Motionbox dot com and look for the G.U.T. by TwoCatSam.

Sam


seykid29

I meant if you sitting at a table..no software..not tedious?

winkel

Hi seykid,

it is very easy:
make a list, vertical 0 to 36
if a number hits make a note next to it.
e.g. X
you see at once if this number hasn´t appeard yet (there are no X´s)
if this number has hit once (there is already one X
if this number has hit several times (there are more than 1 X´s behind that number.

now you count every group
- numbers with no X
- numbers with 1 X
- numbers with 2 X
etc.

If you got the logic behind the group-counting you can easily write the groups down

e.g. you have already

17 10 10 3 3 2 1
now a number with 1X appears
you can easily write down
17 9 11 4 3 2 1

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winkel

winkel

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