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Money management and betting scenarios...

Started by fender1000, April 11, 2010, 09:29:17 PM

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atlantis

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Thats just it. There is no edge to be gained UNDER NORMAL circumstances with this game. This idea that you can flat bet on an even chance and profit. has long been proven flawed thinking. The house edge definately affects the results. The ONLY way you can beat roulette is to find something that delivers a high enough strike rate with excellent consistency. Then with the RIGHT application using a slight but limited progression such as 1.1.2.3. And tight play to avoid as many losers as possible. You can indeed turn a profit. That is EXACTLY what THE ZONE is about. But as I now realize only a small few can take this onboard. And they will profit from it when they do... :yes:

Hi Fender,
Thanx for posting details of the ZONE dozen system. And now a "tracking" question. Can you pls tell me how you play/record it immediately after one of the winning dozen bets hit?
Do you start over tracking for an unhit dozen to reach a count of four - or do you continue the count on a dozen that is already tracked as unhit for 1,  2, 3 or 4 spins?  And if in the case of 4 missed hits does betting then begin on that doz? Thanks, Atlantis.

Bayes

Quotemoney management IS the edge, that fact has been enphasized enough, systems will not work without it

Money management is necessary, but on its own is not enough. You cannot gain an edge merely by manipulating your stakes.

Herb6

You really shouldn't place another bet until you can comprehend the following.

The long term edge on single zero roulette is -2.7%

Now, what bet amount can you multiply x -2.7% and produce a positive value?

Understand?

It's very easy to design a progression that wins 90% of the time.  Unfortunately, it's when you lose that 10% of the time that it destroys your bankroll. 

 

Herb6



Numbers and EC bets never become due in the random game of roulette.  The foundation of your system is nothing more than "The Gambler's Fallacy." 

A few bets here and a few bets there eventually add up to equal the long run.

Here are a few questions to make you think: 

1. Why do you only play for brief periods? 
2. When you end a session or hit and run, to where do you run and how long must you stay away before you can play again?
3. When you hit a stop loss, how long must you wait before you can play again?  The next spin?  10 spins later? The next day perhaps? 



Proofreaders2000

Don't feel bad Fender, casino repersentatives hate system designers.

moles40

Quote from: Stackbundles on April 18, 2010, 06:21:21 PM
after reading this thread nolinks://baccaratforums.com/t6335/ I have even more confidence of the way you play fender



Thats a good find,you can apply many of that guy's playing strategies to roulette,i notice sometimes he waits an hour before placing a bet :D and once he has hit his target he is off.

I like this comment"Many people rush their bet like there is no tomorrow. They forget that the casino is always there and if they don't place any bet at all, they don't lose. They are on even ground and they are far better than those who lost."

A very nice forum as well,with people keen to congratulate him,and none of the vile abuse you get from people here if you post a winning system :angry2:


bombus

Quote from: Stackbundles on April 19, 2010, 08:24:45 PM
look at gorden brown his thing is maths yet he still f****d england up

That's not true. England was already f****d up. Just ask number six, he'll tell you.

Davemd

Hi Scooby,

like your post.

May I please ask you are you playing a double zero or single zero wheel please ?

Thanks in advance,

Davemd.

bikemotorman

Quote from: ScoobyDoo on April 21, 2010, 05:48:44 PM
Hi Fender,
I live in Salt Lake City, Utah. Directly west of here about 130 miles is a small border town straddling the Nevada State line. It is a called Wendover. Maybe when you come here, we can get together and try out your Zone there (and other methods) and then head for Las Vegas...what do you say? I am getting a riding scooter so my mobility will be better by the time you get here.

Regards,
Scooby Doo


Scooby I am an inventor check out my invention on youtube.
It is a engine that goes on the back of a Bicycle and turns it into kind of like a moped lol

nolinks.youtube.com/ihartpie



                Stuart

buffalowizard

Hi Scooby,

I was wondering if you were still playing/testing on this? I have looked back over a lot of old cards and it holds up nicely. Definately a strong bet. I think it would be pretty safe still, if you betted after only one loss. I know 2 losses is better, but can take hundreds of spins, at least with my data.
Thanks for the idea, I will keep checking it.

bikemotorman

Sorry about that you had Magicjack.

How have you been I am still messing with the wheels lol.

Have you gone to the casino and are you winning.

                  Stuart

buffalowizard

Cheers for the reply Scooby,

It's one of those questions I ask myself. Does waiting for a rare event mean that a Win after it is any more likely than a win after a less rare event. If you know what I mean?

So you wait a long time for a LL, meaning you get less bets
You wait a shorter time for a L, meaning you get more bets

But does it only 'seem' like you are getting more hits after a LL, because you are making less bets?

Sorry if this is unclear.




moles40

Am I reading this right,we are betting on the 1+2 and 35+36 splits,but we wait until any of the numbers have hit twice before we start betting,and what progression do we use.

Hey Scooby most of the casino in Vegas have the zero wheel I think? at least in Downtown Vegas,I remember last time I visited I was playing on a zero wheel,although more people were playing the double zero wheel ;D

I even remember finding a craps table that paid 3-1 on the double six,which was was a good thing as my mate who I was with hit 3 out of his first 4 throws on the double 6 ;D what an amazing session that was,over 1500 dollars in profit in 10 mins  :) ;D

Anyway all the best with your system.


buffalowizard

Hey moles

You wait for a 1-2 or 35-36 to hit, then count 14 spins

If these numbers don't hit again then that is 1 loss

Then you wait for another trigger, then count 14 spins again

If there is no hit within these spins then its another loss, so that's 2 losses

Then you wait for 1-2 or 35-36 to hit again, then bet for 14 spins...basically to win after the 2 losses

Hope this is clear

moles40


moles40

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