THE EASIEST WAY TO COME OUT AHEAD

[Nathan Detroit]

The easiest way to come  out ahead  is  by taking the  PROPER bankroll to the casino. Example: For  a  $ 5 minimum table  a the proper bankroll is   $ 600.00  , divided into 3  equal session amounts of  $ 200.00

WIN GOAL : EACH session 15 %  times  3  = $ 90.00.  It`s  a BREEZE  and NO SWEAT. Expect more  then  you  deserve the consequences.



Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

BTW. You won`t be able to tell tall stories but you are a winner.

[VLSroulette]

Thanks for your post dear ND.

You won`t be able to tell tall stories but you are a winner.

Does anything else matter?  

[lucky_strike]

Well ND I don't agree.
I will make a post about it soon.

LS

[Bo0Merang]

im  agree that with 600  you  can  make easily  20 percent  but not  everytime loooooooool

[Marven]

I disagree too.

First of all, if by "coming out ahead" you mean win consistently, then there is no money/bankroll management that can make you win because your bet selection is what makes you win or lose. The bet selection is the money generator not the size of the bankroll etc. You can take the largest bankroll with you, but if your bet selection is a long term loser, you'll still lose in the long run.

Second, assuming you have a winning bet selection i.e. a bet selection with a long term positive edge, the proper bankroll required is determined mathematically using the edge, after determining your risk of ruin. The bankroll must therefore allow you to overcome standard deviation, otherwise you'd be at risk of losing your capital in case you hit a bad negative fluctuation.

[lucky_strike]

Yes Marven that is correct.
I agree.

LS

[Nathan Detroit]

Just to cut  it short: THE BET SELECTION IS IN PLACE .  It is  a darn good one. No worry about  DEVIATION or  stuff like  that.   We either WIN or  LOSE  with our excellent  system but  we  do not  intend to OUTSMART the table  and proclaim to be a winner every time  we go to a casino.


Lucky, You have nothing  to discuss. I did not give you a system to " TEST". Just use  your own  what you think is  a good  perfect system. I don`t give  a rat`s tail  about your bet selection.  In addtion I did not  even go into  depth regarding MM>

Nothing is  left for discussion .This  was just a general statement on my part to be considered.

Marven , Your thinking does NOT even affect my way of  playing. There is  no niche for this  kind of thinking.  I do not pay any attention to your gibberish  like money generator, longterm loser,,deviation, negative  expectation.

Save those semantics  for another group  but not for  a  guy who is   frequenting the casinos  roulette table  since 19 81. Let me  also point out that  my bankroll  is  NEVER  in  jeopardy at all.. Nuff said. Something to think about.

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

P.S.  I mentioned 15 %  NOT 20%.

 

[berlinerbruce]

Hi Lads

Nathon,,,,,,,,can you explain more

seems a little vague to me what your point is

hence the responce you got

ok ,,,,,you give em what for ,,,,,,,,mmmmmmmmm 15 %  to me is also so a bit high ,,,,,,,,,,way high

ok but im sure youll clear this up

BB

ps JUST,,,,,,,,I dont want your advice making followers of this forum into losers,,,,,,,,

for what you say your BR  IS WAY TO LOW ,,,,,,and will land players quikly into debt,,,,,,,,,

cant understand why you posted that ,,,,,,,ok maybe you can back it up somehow ,,,,,,,,

but i doudt it

ok all the best

BB

[Nathan Detroit]

BB .
You don`t know  what you are talking about . This   banlroll, PER session , has bee proven to be   sufficient  for  a table mnimum as I have stated above.  Isn`t $ 30  or 15 % enough per session ?  If you want to win  only 5  % that would  even be  better. It would be  considered a super intelligent  choice.





Nathan Detroit.
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

[lucky_strike]

ND this is for beginners and less experience players that would like to have some fun.
That is that and there is no point to argue about it.

The hard cruel truth is that if you can't gain an Estat at 2.5 or above with placed bets you have nothing.
No beginners patterns, because they don't exist and have nothing to do with how the random flow unfold.
Then there is no MM that will save you is just another illusion among many.

All you have is isolated singles and series of singles and regular series with different lenght.
The only thing any one can apply is an Value, Variance, Math, Probability and Statistics.

If you want to try to help you can show some-thing with an higher level of understanding to how to grasp the concept.
If you don't know how to gain an slight positive expectaion then it is down hill.

Cheers LS

[Nathan Detroit]

What I have posted is  a sound  take  on a win goal with NO  particular system in mind. Apparently " tunnel vision" seem to be  prevalent.

I don`t  bother  with long winded gibberish which  apparently is  in abundance  on  some message boards. It`s  common sense  that`s  lacking.

******Theory of gambling is .......

Money Management ......Discipline......Trends.......LOSS LIMITS .....Win Goals......and each of those attributes is wrapped around LOGIC.........a LOGICAL way to gamble and a LOGICAL manner in which to make decisions at the tables......****John Patrick.


I  don`t think you have  ever been to a casino in years if ever.





Nathan Detroit
IHAPPY WINNINGS!!!

[lucky_strike]

My point stand above you no need to add more about it.
Some will never learn even if they spend an life time at there local casino.

It is sad.

LS

[Nathan Detroit]

It is  sad for   YOU not  to be  able  to engage in  more   cerebral gymastics but my post was never intented to be  as such. It`s a  proclamation  for COMMON SENSE!!!

Many roads lead to ROME . It`s  for  each one of us  to decide which one  to chose.


Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

[lucky_strike]

The easiest way to come  out ahead  is  by taking the  PROPER bankroll to the casino. Example: For  a  $ 5 minimum table  a the proper bankroll is   $ 600.00  , divided into 3  equal session amounts of  $ 200.00

WIN GOAL : EACH session 15 %  times  3  = $ 90.00.  It`s  a BREEZE  and NO SWEAT. Expect more  then  you  deserve the consequences.

This is not common sense for me and you can call me any-thing you like or claim what ever you want about me.
The truth is cruel and the same goes for the gambling world.
I still stand behind my statments.

If some one does not have Masse Égale and an positive expectation then all the other stuff any one can make up is just an illusion.
Bankroll, progression and win ratio.
Down hill is the only way if you apply it.

For fun action players this could be some-thing to apply.

LS

[kav]

Dear LS,

I think you are very autocratic in your statements: 
"If some one does not have Masse Égale and an positive expectation then all the other stuff any one can make up is just an illusion.
Bankroll, progression and win ratio.
Down hill is the only way if you apply it."

Basically what ou are saying is that's all about bet selection.

I disagree.
Read some of Manrique if you haven't. Or you can ask Victor.

You canot deny the fact that a progression (positive or negative) can give you profits in sessions that a flat bet would give you losses. Progressions are tools. They are not everything, but if used properly, they can help. It's an uneven battle against roulette, and every little tool should be used.

[kav]

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