THE EASIEST WAY TO COME OUT AHEAD

[Nathan Detroit]

  

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****** I thought of something else. lol Does TIME SPENT at the casino factor in at all (opinion of course) with your dollar amounts?  Ken*******

Time is  NOT the factor. When you have reached  your desired win level  or  your loss limit  ( 25 % of bankroll ) then it`s time to leave the casino or be  disciplined enough leaving the tables alone.

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINHS!!!




@ Bazeegar L
****Is the loss limit = Bank roll? *** No  the bankroll is not your loss limit. . You establish a loss limit of about 25 % . This way you will never get wiped out . You will always leave the casino with money , The next trip might be more profitable.

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

[Spike]

Basically what you are saying is that's all about bet selection.>>

Thats all there is, bet selection. Anything else is an illusion. Bet selection is the god of roulette. But most people never get good bet selection, so they convince themselves that only progressions can make you money. Thats why the casinos are booming, all progressions ultimately fail. Nothing can overcome a negative expectation game except bet selection.

[Tangram]

Having an adequate bankroll is certainly important but it's only part of the package.  Victor tried to make $50 per session with a $2000 bank (2.5%) and admitted it didn't work. It certainly sounds plausible that you could make say 5% each and every session, but it's a dangerous way to think if that's the only weapon you have in your arsenal, especially if you're committed to risking the whole bank in order to get that 5%. Think about it like this: if you have $100 and your target $5, and at some point you are down to $75 (maybe because you're using some kind of progression), then you now need to make 33% of your current bank just to break even.  

[Jakkalsdraai]

I agree with Spike. Bet selection is everything.

One question to you though Spike. In one post you mentioned that you bet every spin sand that if one plays a system if you wait for triggers to bet you will just prolong the suffering of losing. So effectively what you are saying is that triggers in whatever form is not a good idea. Fair enough.

You also have said in another post that one must understand one's own system or method and know when to bet. Like that example you gave of the chap in your local casino that bet only on Doz.2 and 3. Never betting Doz.1 While Doz's 2&3 were trending he only placed like 4 bets or something. Then when Doz. 1 was trending he was betting 2 and 3 the whole time, losing a fortune.

So the two above scenarios are really opposite from each other. So which is it?

Personally I think that "knowing when to bet" is the way to go. In other words waiting for a trigger, or sequnce of triggers indicating that your own way or system is coming up to play.

Victor has a friend on a Spanish forum as I recall that showd Vic how to take a losing system (or bet selection) and win with it. How? Well obviously waiting and sitting out the bad times and getting in on the good times.

I know you say you bet everyspin.

[Spike]

tried to make $50 per session with a $2000 bank>>

With the proper bet selection you can make 50 every time with a 100 BR. I'm not kidding.

[Spike]

Like that example you gave of the chap in your local casino that bet only on Doz.2 and 3. Never betting Doz.1 While Doz's 2&3 were trending he only placed like 4 bets or something. Then when Doz. 1 was trending he was betting 2 and 3 the whole time, losing a fortune.>>>

You're right, that was a trigger. The guy should have seen the 1st dozen sleeping. I don't bet that way, please don't assume I do because of an example I gave. I mentioned it because it was a lame way to play, and the guy couldn't even see the obvious. It was an example of an idiot player, not an example of how I play.

[Mr J]

Ok Nate, thanks for your opinion.  Ken

[Nathan Detroit]

Spike ,

This  cat playing column 2  and 3 should  have gotten up after 3 losses in a row. Especially true in this particular case.

Nathan  Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

[curious]

Spike ,

This  cat playing column 2  and 3 should  have gotten up after 3 losses in a row. Especially true in this particular case.

Nathan  Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

Or maybe switch to column 1?

[Nathan Detroit]

Curious,

All indications   are  that this  cat for  obvious reasons preferred   the  2nd and 3 rd column and stuck to  his plans.. That much I grant him. Had he  switched to the First column then this  would have been an entirely different method of play  which was not his intention to do.  He  should have  had an escape plan worked out in  advance.

Follow the columns is an entirely different MO  and  in a league by itself.



If you would take  a look at the  0/00 wheel you will find a large gap by  having omitted the 3rd column  by  switching to the 1st and 2nd column.Just to be brief  about it.

Maybe  some of the VLS board column experts could  give you more details.

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!

This   might be  off topic but I thought to give you my take .

[kav]

It's easy to pretend you are the smart guy if you know the outcome beforehand.
If for example there were a series of 10 Blacks it's easy to say you would have bet the trend on black and whoever bet Red is a fool.
Yet, that series of Blacks has exactly the same chance to end at any given spin as it has to continue. So betting on Red is equally "smart" as betting on Black.
All this pattern recognition stuff is just empty bragging. Anyone who knows probability can tell you that any outcome is equally probable after any pattern. 

[Mr J]

"It's easy to pretend you are the smart guy if you know the outcome beforehand.
If for example there were a series of 10 Blacks it's easy to say you would have bet the trend on black and whoever bet Red is a fool." >>> Yep, I brought that up already.  Ken

[Nathan Detroit]

If I see 10 Blacks in a row I keep my bets off black because the odds  of repeating are no longer in my favor. Only bet when  it`s to your adantage . Don`t go with the lemmings.


Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

[Nathan Detroit]

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