can i take you out the zone for a sec.................

[macduff]

but could anyone tell me the best recoupe,betting on two dozens on the third step ie 1,3 then stop loss on 9.
my head is sore with maths. 

[macduff]

well,that,ll be a no then.     

[macduff]

come on guys an galls,help me out with the best loss,at the third step. this is loosely based on the zone and could help with drawdowns as the i way i play will hit continually and can be played every 3-4 spins, for hours,not hit and run.
there is a big kiss waiting.         

[macduff]

hi fender, that's not how i have been playing.i wait for two dozens to hit ie 27 then 34,i now bet on dozs 1 and dozs 2.
this is extremely effective and you can play for an hour and not go past 3rd progression.but play for 2hours and you will come across 5 dozs on the trot,which is not a problem if you have a bankroll for 4th of 5th progression. i have had no more than 6 dozs on the trot in 2500 spins. i am well aware that this could go for 12 or 20 dozs on the trot.
this is the reason why i was asking about a stop loss or best re coupe on 3rd progression as you will have 30 wins on step 1 and 2.
it can also be aided by betting against the possibility of doz1 then doz2 then doz3 hitting and not hitting in that sequence again, this is also not a regular occurrence,but can happen.
with the amount of hits playing this way and a stop loss at the 3rd progression you really can sit and play for hours. if that is your want.
i would like to know what anyone can suggest for a best loss at the third prog.
pretty please.   

[macduff]

i have been busted twice in 2500 spins,at dublin bet and super casino, that means going past 4th progression.you can have 20-30 wins using both ways of play, before a loss if the loss comes. i know it could happen at the first 5 spins, but i believe in cycles and it seems to come round approx 300 spins.
the worst sequence i have had was,LLLMMLLLLLMLLLLLHHHHHHM.
you could deal with this if you could go to 5th progression,which if playing one unit 1,3,9,27,81.
this is to rich for me.
all my numbers are on paper, and going through them will take time. the way i see it is play an hour or hit your amount cos you can sit for quite a while without a loss.
btw L=low nums M=medium H=high.   

[eatlines]

Fender, is this a losing streak on dozens?
29, 6, 27, 1, 25, 9, 34, 10, 24, 14

[macduff]

it would be a winner. 

[macduff]

fender there is no need to chase any streaks,i have not thought this at all. the streaks come and at times you feel that you know what will hit next.
the vast majority of wins are within 2 bets,but because the possibility of 6 dozs or more in a row is possible,a stop loss or best loss would keep this very stable.
could you help with this?? or anyone.   

[macduff]

fender i can see no point in watching a 100 spin sequence, the hit rate is very good.a 6 run of dozs can happen at any time, if you can accept this with a best loss you will hit for the next 10 plays.
if you have the cash and the cahoonas your stop would be on 4th progression.
as we speak i have played 40 spins on dublin bet table 1 for 40 spins and have 12 wins,going to 3rd prog twice.
this could go for 30 plays or a 6 run could hit.
there has to be a way minimising losses, please tell me there is.   

[Herb6]

Does anyone care to show me how waiting changes the chance of hitting? In other words, show me the math.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but  on a single zero wheel, isn't the chance of hitting on a dozen numbers 12/37?

And if the same 12 number section has already hit twice in a row the chance of it hitting on the next spin is still just 12/37.

And if the same 12 number section hasn't hit for 20 spins, the chance of it hitting on the next spin is still 12/37.

There seems to be a trend of new guys arriving every few days that are chasing the "gambler's fallacy".

-Herb6

[macduff]

Does anyone care to show me how waiting changes the chance of hitting? In other words, show me the math.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but  on a single zero wheel, isn't the chance of hitting on a dozen numbers 12/37?

And if the same 12 number section has already hit twice in a row the chance of it hitting on the next spin is still just 12/37.

And if the same 12 number section hasn't hit for 20 spins, the chance of it hitting on the next spin is still 12/37.

-Herb6

you can spout that all you want,that is in the perfect world,a roulette table is not the perfect world.you can not tell me that you do not see patterns in dozens as you see patterns in red black.
you are hitting on 24 numbers not 12. and this does give you an edge. you can also bet your last dollar that a run you dont want will emerge from those patterns.
maths really has no place in roulette as it is set in stone formulas,there is no such thing in roulette.
by your very example of 12/37,this should mean that 24/37 is the dogs bollocks.but it aint.it will give you more wins than losses,and waiting x amount of spins before betting does improve chances of hitting.
maths will spoil any strategy of play because it is rigid and will not bend.
give me your best loss betting on 2 dozens,you can use maths if you want. 

[Herb6]

Then show me the math.  On a random single zero wheel, If the chance of a dozen hitting isn't 12/37 after you qualify it, then what is it?

I have handily proven my case. Can you prove your's?

[macduff]

why would you need maths to prove that, a dozen can miss for 24 spins,does that not throw your equation out of the water. if you see it miss for that amount of spins would you not fancy it to come up soon.?? 

[Herb6]

Why would it be "due" to come in soon?

Is the dealer blocking some of the numbers from hitting once they've hit?

Aren't there still 37 pockets on the roulette wheel?
Isn't the chance of the 12 number section hitting still just 12/37?

The chance that you will see that 12 number section go 24 spins without hitting is (24/37) ^ 24.   Once you've waited that long, the chance it will go another 24 without hitting is (24/37) ^ 24.  

Understand?

[macduff]

that is bull and you know it,answer my question would you expect a dozen to appear after 24 misses, every number does have the same chance. this is the reason that your dozen will come out and why you will see patterns in play.
why you would deny this is beyond me.

[macduff]

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