Roulette is a lucky game with a negative expectation...NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS

[Mr J]

"roulette is not going anywhere. a new sucker is born every minute" >>> Yep and his name is Jakkalsdraai. 

[Kyla Shooter]

"roulette is not going anywhere. a new sucker is born every minute" >>> Yep and his name is Jakkalsdraai. 

and why is that?

[Jakkalsdraai]

and why is that?

That's ok KS,

Ol' Ken just felt that he had to retaliate. And that was the best he could come up with. I actually liked his 2 number system (although I wouldn't play it myself).

Cheers
Jakk

[Jakkalsdraai]

Jakkal U shouldn t say these things!
What happened with the HG KIMO LEE stuff....

What happened to Kimo? Well funny you ask that. Go and have a look at the challenges in the challenges section and you will see that "Kimo stuff" worked pretty well. So well that it won both challenges. So what happened to your 63rd HG Jean-Claude, Jordan, Oldtimer, Viper, Teo etc. etc. etc. ......................You might just be the biggest fool of 'em all. I say that because Kimo's stuff is not a system but a method yet you think it is a cut and dry mechanical way (which it is not). Also you advocated that no system coule ever work and would ever work and that VB is the only way.......... I mean you even told me on MSN how you closed down a table with VB. I will not go on and elaborate. Then you turn around and critisize people like Forester and AP players and say that their stuff does not work after you made videos teaching people vb and swearing that it is the only way.

You then turn around and create a system...........mechanical and then immediately claim it to be the HG.......then another and another and another.................if I didn't think you were a lunatic I would of put you in contact with Kimo........I do however believe you are a lunatic.

cheers
jakk

[Kyla Shooter]

just to save me a little time, who isn't a lunatic here? lol

[Mr J]

"Ken just felt that he had to retaliate" >>> I'm a real fair guy. Push me, I push back. Ken

[Jean-Claud]

Jackkcal
The new fashion now in Roulette is to name the systems "METHODS"

Yes VB work...but in very few wheels nowdays(expirienced it urself AFTER I TOLD HOW TO PLAY VB!do u remember?

Can a math system win in Roulette? maybe NOT...but MAYBE!ppl every day are descovering new things.
yes maths on their own can not win ,because roulette has the advantage...but maybe a combination on maths-probability can win.

[bombus]

...Go and have a look at the challenges in the challenges section and you will see that "Kimo stuff" worked pretty well. So well that it won both challenges....

Both challenges?

Can someone point me to these two concluded challenges please?

I think one was spikes's 20 spin challenge, and the other one was probably NS's 100 spin challenge, but as far as I know the NS challenge never finished...did it?

Cheers.

[Jakkalsdraai]

Both challenges?

Can someone point me to these two concluded challenges please?

I think one was spikes's 20 spin challenge, and the other one was probably NS's 100 spin challenge, but as far as I know the NS challenge never finished...did it?

Cheers.

I wanted to continue but the whole idea was that Spike and Gizmo compete against us which was exactly why the challenge was created. Gizmo and Spike's own challenge.........which they then did not attend. So we were already there and played anyway.

I will gladly take part in any challenge using only Kimo Li's methods. Not saying I'm invincible but I sure as hell will take anyone on that's over here!

BTW Viper, Jean-Claude, Jordan, Oldtimer and Teo ...... system to me means a way of play according to a fixed set of rules.

Method to me means no fixed rules rather using certain tools to determine your bet selection together with what is happening on the wheel. This means that there is no fixed rules telling you what to bet.

[Bayes]

Jackkcal
The new fashion now in Roulette is to name the systems "METHODS"

I agree, pretty funny. Whatever you call them doesn't change the fact that you must use TRIGGERS, unless your system is to bet the same thing over and over.  It doesn't matter how many there are or what they're based on. The whole "mechanical vs non-mechanical" debate is a red herring. ALL "methods", "systems" "tactics" "approaches" etc are mechanical, and that includes all AP methods.

Method to me means no fixed rules rather using certain tools to determine your bet selection together with what is happening on the wheel. This means that there is no fixed rules telling you what to bet.

It doesn't matter if you decide before you get to the wheel what you're going to play or not. "What is happening on the wheel" doesn't preclude the use of triggers, in fact it necessitates them. You must have a "database" of them in your mind, discovered through prior experience and/or research. If not, then how can you be making a consistent profit?(assuming you are).  Betting on a "whim" or based on "gut feeling" intuition etc is not a reason to bet. That's just like bettting "lucky" numbers or using the "scatterchip" method. If you don't have  REASON to bet the way you do, how can you know whether it's going to be successful?

Even if you bet a different way when the same event repeats itself at the table, you must still have a trigger. It could be something like "bet alternately red and black when the same sequence shows up", or maybe some other pattern.

No non-AP player likes to admit this, because it forces them to deny the "dogma" of independent trials, on pain of contradiction.

[Jakkalsdraai]

Hi Bayes,

I agree that systems do not work. I also agree that AP is the way to go. Then again Kimo Li's 'methods' is not a system, it's also not guessing and it does work.

[Mr J]

"Method to me means no fixed rules" >>> ? ? .  Ken

[Carpanta]

In the end roulette game could be reduced to a matter of secuences and frecuences of all those events you can track and record while playing.
Roulette can't deny chance to produce unbalance results among certain events, we can observe and profit when you know what to look at, during certain periods of the game.
So WHAT and WHEN (of such events) are the very questions to ask oneself so as to raise one's chances to succeed in this game.

Carlos.

[Jakkalsdraai]

"Method to me means no fixed rules" >>> ? ? .  Ken

That's right Ken. With Kimo's methods there are no fixed rules. Only tools to help you make decisions. Again I am open to any challenge.

[Mr J]

I'm not asking about your girlfriend Kim. My question is.....I use around 8 different methods. Would you say I have no fixed rules to play those methods?  Ken

[Mr J]

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