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Title: Only Betting Because I Have Too.....
Post by: xman1970 on August 22, 2008, 09:56:24 AM
Hi Guys,

Ok, you know the drill, your waiting to bet your desired system, but the situation / numbers have yet to show......

Unfortunately your the only guy at the table so you must place a bet  >:( >:(

So what do you bet ??

For me it doesn't have to win, but it sure would help if it doesn't eat up my BankRoll  :(

So please, let me know what works best for you....


Take it easy.....
Title: Re: Only Betting Because I Have Too.....
Post by: TwoCatSam on August 22, 2008, 11:26:43 AM
Xman

This will almost make a profit by itself!  Place 15 units on the first dozen and 10 units on the large numbers.  Now cover with one unit, 13, 14,15, 16, and  17.  If the dozen or large bet hits, you break even as it pays for the single-unit bets.  This will happen most of the time.

If one of the numbers hits, well, you lose 29 and win 35 for a six unit profit.

I've worked for years to come up with an "overlapping" system to make a profit on it's own by covering the 0 and 18 and it would be that sought-after thing I whose name I dare not call.

Sam
Title: Re: Only Betting Because I Have Too.....
Post by: xman1970 on August 22, 2008, 11:42:07 AM
Thanks 2Cats (great avatar BTW)

"10 units on the large numbers" could you please just confirm what you mean by that???

brain cells & everything else slowing down..... :-[

My bad....

Many thanks.... 8)
Title: Re: Only Betting Because I Have Too.....
Post by: TwoCatSam on August 22, 2008, 11:51:46 AM
X

Numbers 18 thru 36 are the large numbers, or the big numbers, or the bottom. 

Victor gave me that avatar.  I don't know those cats except that if you know one cat, you know them all.

Not clear on the betting?  Ask more.

Sam
Title: Re: Only Betting Because I Have Too.....
Post by: VLSroulette on August 22, 2008, 03:15:53 PM
5 lines is my placeholder bet choice at real casino wheels.

Hehehe, because of that I've been told many times: "You are making nothing"... (but I'm actually doing something: waiting for what I consider the proper time to enter).

A separate 100-unit bank destined to 5-line placeholder bets lasts... and lasts... and lasts... (since I won't use it continuously as it is only for those spins which need to have the ball spun, when alone).

Ah! There's a more extreme bet for wagering on a single spin leaving the least numbers out. It requires "La Partage" rule for even chances. It is the trick of covering 36 numbers (that's right thirty six) and yet win +1 unit on a hit... only losing to one (1) single number :) Hey! Let me post that "tricky bet" to the money management section right away! -Will also advice here at this thread.

Victor
Title: Re: Only Betting Because I Have Too.....
Post by: xman1970 on August 22, 2008, 05:25:39 PM
Cheers Sam I'm with you now  ;)


Cheers Victor  ;)


Keep em coming guys.....
Title: Re: Only Betting Because I Have Too.....
Post by: TwoCatSam on August 22, 2008, 05:34:31 PM
Will do, but who is Tyler and why should we trust him?
Title: Re: Only Betting Because I Have Too.....
Post by: xman1970 on August 22, 2008, 05:42:06 PM
It's the Tag line from the film "Fight Club" & as my surname is Taylor I thought it was close enough....

Why should we trust him, you will have to watch the film  :-X

The avatar for you none Uk friends is the late great Tommy Cooper..... :D

He used to screw up magic tricks on purpose.....

made me laugh as a kid  :D
Title: Re: Only Betting Because I Have Too.....
Post by: WannaWin on August 22, 2008, 09:55:44 PM
"Thanks 2Cats (great avatar BTW)"

Hello Mr. TwoCatSam

This is better image with 2 cats:

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I see it online and only think about you! (If it offend please remove but gambling = 18/21+ of age, so maybe no problem. The artistic nude not sex image!).

WannaWin
Title: Re: Only Betting Because I Have Too.....
Post by: TwoCatSam on August 22, 2008, 10:08:17 PM
I think it's great!!
Title: Re: Only Betting Because I Have Too.....
Post by: xman1970 on August 22, 2008, 10:12:30 PM
A naked woman on a thread I started..... ::)


happy days......... :D
Title: Re: Only Betting Because I Have Too.....
Post by: Natural9 on August 23, 2008, 01:20:26 AM
2 Cats and a pussy umm yeh >:D >:D >:D >:D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Only Betting Because I Have Too.....
Post by: Natural9 on August 23, 2008, 01:21:46 AM
Or was that 2 pussies and a cat :D :D
Title: Re: Only Betting Because I Have Too.....
Post by: Talesman on August 24, 2008, 12:09:07 AM

Here is a scheme I tried at the Nevada Palace in Las Vegas (it has been torn down since).

I was the solo player and the dude with me was merely my chauffeur and observer of a new bet plan I was working.

I asked the Floor person if I could make dealer bets for less than the table min.  He said sure!  Dealer bet had to be one chip or more.  Let's say it was worth a dollar.  Now came the time for me to sit out a spin, maybe more. I placed a dealer bet (asked the dealer what her lucky number was and covered the quad it was in) and told her to spin.  She wouldn't. Called the Floor dude over again and said I wanted a spin and am placing a dealer bet solo...is that ok?  He looked at the dealer to her to "spin it and win it."

Now that may not be allowed everywhere but it is worth a shot.

A dealer once showed me how to get a free spin.  She said cover any EC I wanted to.  Then once she spun the ball she told me to remove the bet.  I did.  I asked if that was "legal."  She said I cannot stop the wheel once it is spun and I cannot control you.  As long as I have not called "no more bets" you can add and remove chips as you please.  I tipped her well.

That worked everywhere.  MS, LA, and  NV.  Until one day I am playing in Harrah's (I think) on the Strip.  Dealer change and I get a crusty old dealer.  Big gut, handlebar mustache, etc.  Looks like a dude from a barbershop quartet.  I am playing solo as the last person just left and I need a spin.  I placed a chip on Red.  He spins.  After two revolutions I pick up the chip.  That asshole reaches in and grabs the ball.  We had a few words. I let his bosses know in no uncertain terms what I thought of his demeanor. 

Try either trick.  The worst that could happen is you don't get the freebie.  And if you just sit there not betting, sooner or later the Floor is going to come over and inquire as to what is going on.  Tell him or her that you cannot proceed until another one or two spins occur.  They may be impatient enough to have the dealer give you a few as long as it isn't in excess.  That may also be a good time to take a restroom break and hope by the time you get back someone else has joined the table.

You can always lay a chip on Red and just before "no more bets" drop a chip on Black and pray a green doesn't show.  That's how it is usually done.

Good luck.



Title: Re: Only Betting Because I Have Too.....
Post by: Roulettejunkie on August 25, 2008, 05:39:11 PM
Quote from: TwoCatSam on August 22, 2008, 10:08:17 PM
I think it's great!!

I totally agree  :P

Regards,
R.J.
Title: Re: Only Betting Because I Have Too.....
Post by: Mr J on August 26, 2008, 01:50:52 AM
Very easy answer but I need to know more. The min. bet at the table? Single or double zero wheel? Are your units $1 or $5? If its $5 min. at a single zero wheel, bet $5 on red & black. If its $5 min. at a double zero wheel, switch off red & black. Use dollar chips..... ($5 min.), $1 on 5 different double streets. OR ($10 min.), $2 on 4 different double streets & $1 on the other two double streets. Ken
Title: Re: Only Betting Because I Have Too.....
Post by: jhincks on August 27, 2008, 04:57:23 PM
Hi all,
         this must sound like an obviously stupid answer but cant you just bet black/red together the house still has the chance of taking your money and you loose less until ur bets start rollin?  j

nice pic i think the cats were after the rat. ;D

ps. sorry for the rubbish reply.
Title: Re: Only Betting Because I Have Too.....
Post by: Talesman on August 29, 2008, 04:13:15 PM
jhincks, that to you (and me) would sound logical.

Some casinos will not allow equal opposing bets even though they KNOW they are in the advantage.

At craps, and if you are the shooter you cannot play both the Pass and Don't Pass at the same time as you "do not have an interest in the game"  (whatever that means).

You do have 'an interest in the game' if one bet is higher than the other.

So in the case of roulette, $5 on red and $6 on Black should suffice.

Some dealers could care less how you bet.  They do their job and can't wait for quitting time.  Sometimes dealers mis-interpret what they are told and will tell you that isn't allowed even though it is. Some think that the table is their personal fiefdom and do anything it takes to protect it (mostly Euro dealers).

The "rules", both real and imaginary, vary from casino to casino and can vary from shift to shift within that same casino.

I have found that establishing some sort of a rapport with the dealer can be useful more often than not.

Keep winning.


Title: Re: Only Betting Because I Have Too.....
Post by: JHM on September 01, 2008, 06:49:12 AM
I would consider different things:

- Bet 1 chip, table's lowest minimum
- Pick 6 blocks of 4 numbers. And bet the minimum. Till my numbers come up.
- If the tables have a low minimum on outside bets just pick 2 row's / dozen and bet 0.5 - 1 on each.

I guess it depends of the table.

Jur
Title: Re: Only Betting Because I Have Too.....
Post by: Talesman on September 05, 2008, 03:03:22 AM

Since this is an International forum I'll just state that in the USA it is rare to find a table, regardless of the game, where a $5 bet is not the min.  In Atlantic City finding a table below a $10 min. is a rare feat.

In some parts of Nevada, you may well find a $3 min. table for roulette and craps at some of the 'locals' joints mid-week. 

The cheapest roulette table in Mississippi probably is the $4 min. one at Treasure Bay Casino.  I like that table as I can usually do well betting finals and not worry about placing that extra dollar to make it a $5 bet.

The days of either 25-cent or 50-cent roulette chips with a $1/$2 min. bet are long gone.  Only on-line can you find that and lower.

Title: Re: Only Betting Because I Have Too.....
Post by: xman1970 on September 05, 2008, 11:21:32 AM
Many thanks to everyone who replied...... ;)


At least I have a few more ideas popping into my head...... 8)