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*The Cauldron*

Started by bombus, December 16, 2010, 06:36:38 AM

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bombus

Quote from: jrhelp007 on December 27, 2010, 01:22:18 AM
Hello JavierTT,

I agree with you in terms of generating profit vs. losses.

I ran about 50,000 flat bets I was up off and on then accumulated about +190 units, but I ended up losing 8,550.

I ran statistics on the numbers to see what is the cause of the losses beside the fact that it didn't hit the appropriate group(s)!

I further investigated and mapped the numbers/areas of the wheel to areas of the table 0 thru 36 to see what is taken place? I found out that the repetitive numbers only had a small fraction of the losses. The main cause had to do with "SLEEPERS" or a poor reference of certain areas of the wheel.

my faith in this system dissolved after I ran another 45000 spins and hand up with losses. Nevertheless on real play on the Atlantic City tables at various Casinos I ended up with losses.

So long my friends searching another system.

One that is looking promising is GAMLET FIRE which I hand up with 65% winning. Trying to asses my losses and figuring out if I violated its rules and/or my Money management was wrong?


"HAPPY HOLIDAYS"

John

Hello John.

Would you care to explain how you tested for so many spins so quickly?

As insidebet asked, do you have a code – could we see it?

From a few things you've posted, I suspect you are playing the system all wrong so I might be able to help correct your game for testing purposes.

For instance, those numbers you posted in Reply #70 resulted in a nice win flat betting 445 units for a 95 unit profit = 21.3% gain. Yet in the post you said play these numbers through and you will pay the price. Would you care to comment?
In another post you said a lost round of bets will cost between 27 to worst case scenario 29 unit. This is wrong. A lost round costs between 36 to 38 units, so you are clearly playing it wrong therefore your 100,000 spin test is null and void... Pity.

PS. I don't do Skype, etc.

Cheers.

bombus


Thanks for the numbers jrhelp007.

Here is how the game played out flat betting.

15
4
4
4
24
36
22
15
12
23
5
26
20 start
18 trigger
23 -9
21 +17
20 trigger
33 -10
31 +17
11 trigger
3   -9
19 +18
6   trigger
22 -9
24 -18
27 -10
15 trigger
23 -9
30 +18
15 trigger
16 -10
32 +17
15 trigger
20 -10
5   +17
35 trigger
29 -9
21 +18
28 trigger
9   -9
2   -18
15 +26
24 trigger
7   -9
3   -18
36 -10
1   trigger
15 -9
13 +17
4   trigger
8   +27
34 trigger
6   -9
12 +18
16 trigger
13 -9
7   +17
30 trigger
2   +27
33 trigger
30 -9
22 +17
31 trigger
11 +27
3   END GAME
21


Cheers.

jrhelp007

Hi bombus,

Thanks for running the numbers.

A few questions to you, since I see a discrepancy between my results and yours example:

in your run -
6   trigger
22 -9
24 -18
27 -10


At my run I counted 10 number backwards before the 6 triggered as follow:

19   
3
11
31
33
20
21
23
18
20 (already appeared-duplicate taking next number on the list).
26

6 triggered group3 bet on:   15-25-6-36-10-1-22-7-35

22 win +27 unit

If its wrong please type your selected 10 numbers. Because what is happening when you use the trigger and the betting group number, it will supersede the top 3 from the previous 10 number. But it doesn't matter since we are counting the latest 10 numbers.

What is taking place is as as you mark those 10 numbers on the chart (part of group 10) you may run into duplicate numbers. For example not in this chart, 15 was a trigger and as you go backwards to mark the 10 numbers 15 appears again on the list, so it's ignored and I continued to go up to take the next one. Am I correct?

Regards,

John

bombus


Yes, #20 already part of the 10 number group so we include the next number back #26 to complete the group.

10 number group is: 19.21.11.23.33.20.31.18.3.26.

#6 then triggers a bet on group 3.

Group 3 numbers are: 15.25.6.36.10.16.9.7.25.

#22 (group1) then triggers a bet on groups 3&1.

#24 (group2) then triggers a bet on group 10.

27 (group1) = lost round.

In your example you have correctly listed the last 10 individual numbers ignoring any repeaters, but for some reason you have mixed up the other groups.

Still waiting with interest to hear more about the previously posted results of your extended testing. Especially the loss of -8550 units!

Cheers.




bombus


You know, even if you make a mistake here and there like this one, it usually only takes a handful of spins to correct the sequence to the original train. In this case it would have taken about 14 spins with a difference in the final total of -29 units making the end profit +66 instead of +95.

Cheers. 

jrhelp007

OK. I found several problem in my old statistical programs which I use for roulette.

It has been calculating with the wrong offsets.

I marked the numbers on the chart and you're correct 22 is group 1 and not 3!

One of the leading cause for losses in any gambling games is being tiered and failing to concentrate.

Thank you bombus for sharing for free your system. I'll have to recalculate all my bets all over again.

Practice, practice, practice is the key to success. You see that in the sport's world how top golfers, basketball players, etc are putting time and effort spending many hours in practice. Gambling should not be different. Although we always will need "Lady luck on our side".

"HAPPY HOLIDAYS"

John

schoenpoetser

Yes i can do.I have one the check for HIGH and LOW.It is also possible to do the same for Even/odd or Red/Black.If you understand the model then you can do it yourself.
Column C is the model I don`t expext a 6-row will not repeat column H for a 10-row will not repeat.
A  is a pseudo RNG
B  is the code high 2 and low 1
C the reference row.The same as row B but start C7
D  bet scheme 1-2-4-8-16-32-64-128-256-512-1024-
E  payout
f
G  the same as B
H  reference row .start at H11
I  bet the same scheme
J  payout

jrhelp007

Below are live numbers from a single 0 roulette game played in a Casino in Atlantic city, New Jersey. It's a few days old.

I will not specify the name of the Casino, because we all know that "SPYs" from each casino are registered as members in this forum as well as others!!!

GAME#1:

16
25
18
36
23
7
4
20
28
18
18
24
4
5
21
1
15
16
27
22
35
32
10
27
26
36
17
21
8
27
11
10
16
9
34
13
17
13
36
36
8
35
31
10
27
26
5
23
27
4
4
<--- had to leave the table to make phone calls... --->



GAME#2:

14
20
18
23
27
31
2
14
28
2
28
11
23
8
5
21
11
3
25
28
26
29
19
1
<---  left for dinner --->

"Happy Holidays"

John


schoenpoetser

For the specialists of the roulette I have made an analyse of The CAULDRON.I have done it for a 250-sample.The diagrams give a good performance  The last diagram shows how many the sectors willnot or will repeat.
With F9 you have a new 250-sample.

jrhelp007

GAME#2:

14
20
18
23
27
31
2
14
28
2
28
11
23
8
---------------------
5   trigger group (grp)3
21  grp3                          +27 unit          5 & 21 will be added to the next 10 numbers

11 trigger grp10
3  grp3    -9 units
25  grp3   36 -29 = +7    25, 3 & 11 will be part of the next 10 numbers

28 trigger grp10
26 grp3  loss   -10 units
29 grp2  loss   -19 unit    now we see group#1 is missing next bet will be group 1 betting 9 units.
19 grp1  36 - 29 = +7 units

1   this was the next spin by the dealer as another player joined.
<---  left for dinner --->

In this game I hand up with +41 units. The dealer asked me "Why you are leaving" You're doing well".

I told him I have to go for Dinner and gave him a nice tip.

"Happy Holidays"

John

jrhelp007

To all,

I just rated "The Cauldron" method 5 stars.

   
John

jrhelp007

bombus can you comment on this run, GAME#1. See if you come out with a similar result.

I got for the below run  -152 units.

GAME#1 resulted in a loss of -152 unit betting flat bets:

16
25
18
36
23
7
4
20
28
18
18
24
4
5
21
1
15
16
27
22
35
32
10
27
26
36
17
21
8
27
11
10
16
9
34
13
17
13
36
36
8
35
31
10
27
26
5
23
---------------------   last action on the Roulette
27   I watched the spin while other players bet
4     I watched the spin while other players bet
4      I watched the spin while other players bet

<--- had to leave the table to make phone calls... --->


bombus

Quote from: jrhelp007 on December 29, 2010, 06:10:43 PM
bombus can you comment on this run, GAME#1. See if you come out with a similar result.

I got for the below run  -152 units.

GAME#1 resulted in a loss of -152 unit betting flat bets:

16
25
18
36
23
7
4
20
28
18
18
24
4
5
21
1
15
16
27
22
35
32
10
27
26
36
17
21
8
27
11
10
16
9
34
13
17
13
36
36
8
35
31
10
27
26
5
23
---------------------   last action on the Roulette
27   I watched the spin while other players bet
4     I watched the spin while other players bet
4      I watched the spin while other players bet

<--- had to leave the table to make phone calls... --->



I get -144.

Not a good game but it is a very short run of about 40 betted spins.

Like others have said this method can produce big swings, so big I almost called it The Bungee Jump System. :D

Short games like this can appear to fluctuate dramatically.

bombus

Quote from: schoenpoetser on December 29, 2010, 02:22:38 PM
For the specialists of the roulette I have made an analyse of The CAULDRON.I have done it for a 250-sample.The diagrams give a good performance  The last diagram shows how many the sectors willnot or will repeat.
With F9 you have a new 250-sample.

@schoenpoester,

Thanks for your analysis tool.

Could you explain exactly what it's doing, and how to decipher it?

Cheers.

jrhelp007

Thank you for your prompt reply.

John

jrhelp007

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